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Question for the experts: is acrylic tubing better for a loop due to its rigidity? I am no physics expert by any means, but it would seem that with less movement of tubing there is more efficiency even if it isn't very significant. The downside of rigid tubing is that it requires a lot of 90 degree bends and can most likely affect the flow rate. I'm debating on which way to go with my new loop. Thoughts?
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@skupples are you using acrylic or standard tubing?



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Originally Posted by Wolfsbora View Post

Question for the experts: is acrylic tubing better for a loop due to its rigidity? I am no physics expert by any means, but it would seem that with less movement of tubing there is more efficiency even if it isn't very significant. The downside of rigid tubing is that it requires a lot of 90 degree bends and can most likely affect the flow rate. I'm debating on which way to go with my new loop. Thoughts?
The restriction of a knuckle 90 and a sweeping 90 are very different things. The sweeping 90 will have no restriction.
The rigidity will have next to no influence on performance.
Hardlines are for the lazy that want long service intervals and something different,I am in both groups. Because I see so many acrylic loops,I'm considering going back to copper...

Or CF tube.....
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@Wolfsbora I would't say the advantages lie with increased flow. It won't have any problems with plasticizer though, clarity will be better, especially over time. you might be able to choose a more efficient loop design as you can bend it without the risk of kinks. There's probably other things I've overlooked as well.

As for the effects of multiple bends, it's not going to make much of a difference. Take a looksy here.

Working with acrylic just takes a fair bit more time than flexible tubing. If you have the patience and don't mind putting a bit of extra time into planning, acrylic tubing in my opinion wins hands down. It's certainly going to give you a harder time than flexible tubing though. That might be just me though, I couldn't really source angled adapters, matt black bitspower seem to be constantly out of stock in my country. As a result, quite a few of my bends were very tight and that can be a nuisance. that would be the same for flexible tubing though. rolleyes.gif
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The restriction of a knuckle 90 and a sweeping 90 are very different things. The sweeping 90 will have no restriction.
The rigidity will have next to no influence on performance.
Hardlines are for the lazy that want long service intervals and something different,I am in both groups. Because I see so many acrylic loops,I'm considering going back to copper...
Or CF tube.....

That would be me! biggrin.gif
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Or CF tube.....

Carbon fibre? That would certainly be something different! biggrin.gif
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@Wolfsbora I would't say the advantages lie with increased flow. It won't have any problems with plasticizer though, clarity will be better, especially over time. you might be able to choose a more efficient loop design as you can bend it without the risk of kinks. There's probably other things I've overlooked as well.

As for the effects of multiple bends, it's not going to make much of a difference. Take a looksy here.

Working with acrylic just takes a fair bit more time than flexible tubing. If you have the patience and don't mind putting a bit of extra time into planning, acrylic tubing in my opinion wins hands down. It's certainly going to give you a harder time than flexible tubing though. That might be just me though, I couldn't really source angled adapters, matt black bitspower seem to be constantly out of stock in my country. As a result, quite a few of my bends were very tight and that can be a nuisance. that would be the same for flexible tubing though. rolleyes.gif
Martin pulls through again! Thanks for the link. It certainly will help with my decision making. I have pretty tight confines within my Corsair 550D case and I'll be running 3 different rads (all Alphacool), 1 - 240mm Monsta, 1 - 240mm ST30, and 1 - 140mm ST30. They will practically frame the mobo. The dual pump/res combo sits in my 5.25" bay so at one point within the design there will need to be one tube that goes across from one side to the other. Not sure how to make it look good. I've drawn up multiple ways and there is still a tube going straight across my mobo. I don't want it to take away from my nickel plated EK CPU block or the ASUS Maximus V Formula that I will be using to replace my low end ASUS mobo.

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Or CF tube.....

Carbon fibre? That would certainly be something different! biggrin.gif
Got a chair/sim build going on,it will be using 16mm pullwound CF tube. Does mean fittings instead of bends tho.
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The restriction of a knuckle 90 and a sweeping 90 are very different things. The sweeping 90 will have no restriction.
The rigidity will have next to no influence on performance.
Hardlines are for the lazy that want long service intervals and something different,I am in both groups. Because I see so many acrylic loops,I'm considering going back to copper...

Or CF tube.....

Hardlines are for the lazy? It takes a heck of a lot of work to cut and bend acrylic tubing, it's much easier to cut a flexible tube and push it on. I never even considered service intervals when I purchased my loop. This is my first loop but from all of the builds I have seen a nicely done rigid acrylic loop just plain looks better, more professional. The flexible tubing looks kinda second rate to me. Just my opinion though.
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