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If I can get a positive result (Which won't take much) I've got a + 1 on it! I know @IT Diva wants me to Flush with Mayhems Blitz and all that jazz... but If I have something in the house at my disposal that I already paid for (Essentially with the tubing) then We ( I ) should try that first thumb.gifbiggrin.gif

TCO

@wermad This is a test. biggrin.gif
Like diva was saying, it's most likely a pH problem. Part 2 will neutralize the radiators and the entire loop.
    
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If I can get a positive result (Which won't take much) I've got a + 1 on it! I know @IT Diva wants me to Flush with Mayhems Blitz and all that jazz... but If I have something in the house at my disposal that I already paid for (Essentially with the tubing) then We ( I ) should try that first thumb.gifbiggrin.gif

TCO

@wermad This is a test. biggrin.gif


Let me know how it goes as well.. i've a bottle of it and it would be great if it's useful
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PH level testing seems a little overboard for pc cooling IMO, but who knows. It's not like we are checking the levels in a salt water fish tank with living things, it's copper and plastic with some rubber cooling pc parts. If it's clean to the eye and clear after flushing, I would pretty much say it's good personally. It's just how far do you want to go with it I guess. This is the first I've ever heard anyone going as far as testing PH levels in a pc cooling loop. I'm sure IT Diva knows whats up, but to what extreme do you want to go. If your system is clean and your coolant stays clean and clear, that's good in my book. If I add fresh distilled water and then the coolant clouds up in my res and isn't clear, then I am not happy. If it's as clear as pouring into a glass, can you really ask for more? biggrin.gif
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Let me know how it goes as well.. i've a bottle of it and it would be great if it's useful

I will, You know I will post results, positive or negative. Ill learn the hard way and show people I have, Im not scared of that thumb.gif

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PH level testing seems a little overboard for pc cooling IMO, but who knows. It's not like we are checking the levels in a salt water fish tank with living things, it's copper and plastic with some rubber cooling pc parts. If it's clean to the eye and clear after flushing, I would pretty much say it's good personally. It's just how far do you want to go with it I guess. This is the first I've ever heard anyone going as far as testing PH levels in a pc cooling loop. I'm sure IT Diva knows whats up, but to what extreme do you want to go. If your system is clean and your coolant stays clean and clear, that's good in my book. If I add fresh distilled water and then the coolant clouds up in my res and isn't clear, then I am not happy. If it's as clear as pouring into a glass, can you really ask for more? biggrin.gif

She Knows a ton! Don't get her twisted, I am the one with the hard head, yet I make decisions based upon USD for the most part, even If it costs me time and wasted effort biggrin.gif I would rather try something different or something that is provided before I spend another 40$

The Cautious One.

Ph Levels are more than valid when dealing with watercooling, it's up to the creator to make a decision based upon results and cleanliness of the Their Loop.
     
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post #85065 of 106104
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PH level testing seems a little overboard for pc cooling IMO, but who knows. It's not like we are checking the levels in a salt water fish tank with living things, it's copper and plastic with some rubber cooling pc parts. If it's clean to the eye and clear after flushing, I would pretty much say it's good personally. It's just how far do you want to go with it I guess. This is the first I've ever heard anyone going as far as testing PH levels in a pc cooling loop. I'm sure IT Diva knows whats up, but to what extreme do you want to go. If your system is clean and your coolant stays clean and clear, that's good in my book. If I add fresh distilled water and then the coolant clouds up in my res and isn't clear, then I am not happy. If it's as clear as pouring into a glass, can you really ask for more? biggrin.gif
Mayhems pastels are pH sensitive. In TCO's case, the coolant didn't stay "clean and clear"... Hence the pH issue.
    
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Mayhems pastels are pH sensitive. In TCO's case, the coolant didn't stay "clean and clear"... Hence the pH issue.

It's possible it wasn't the loop, it could have been the Pastel itself Mate!

TCO
     
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Mayhems pastels are pH sensitive. In TCO's case, the coolant didn't stay "clean and clear"... Hence the pH issue.

Some of the dyes are pH sensitive for sure, no idea about the nanoparticles themselves. Unless the suspension has a dielectric point such that slightly acidified coolant is enough to break it up the Pastel part itself should be fine.
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Originally Posted by SteezyTN View Post

Mayhems pastels are pH sensitive. In TCO's case, the coolant didn't stay "clean and clear"... Hence the pH issue.

It's possible it wasn't the loop, it could have been the Pastel itself Mate!

TCO



And it's about as possible that Noah's flood actually occurred . . . . .

Sysprep is generally considered to be useless in dealing with pH issues typically brought about by residual flux left in the rads from production.

Just do it right from the get-go this time around.

Darlene
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And it's about as possible that Noah's flood actually occurred . . . . .

Sysprep is generally considered to be useless in dealing with pH issues typically brought about by residual flux left in the rads from production.

Just do it right from the get-go this time around.

Darlene



Diva... Can't I just try it? wheee.gif Please!!

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Gotcha, don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not knocking IT Diva one bit at all. That would be foolish. Testing PH levels just seems crazy to me for water cooling on pc's, but I guess that's because I have never used any coolant's that have the need. I ONLY use distilled water, or sometimes a little bit of additive like what EK sells / includes with their kits. The small bottle that EK provides with the kits I've bought says to mix the 100ml bottle to 900ml of distilled water for a total of 1000ml. That's way too much for my liking and no need IMO. I can add half of that little bottle, 50ml, to a whole gallon of distilled water and it turns it plenty color for me to like and that's almost nothing really added to a gallon. I'm pretty much using straight distilled water at that mix ratio.

I've never once had any algae form in any of my loops or any loops I"ve done for anyone. I just pulled apart a loop I did for someone 4 years ago last week and it was clean as can be. He never once added even a drop of extra coolant to the loop. I put a huge res on the side of his tech bench build that held around 250ml easy, plus the rest of the loop. Filled his res almost to the top, about 90-95% full, when he brought it back it was around 65-70% full still, but clean as can be. I was very surprised at how clean it all was still.

I'm a firm believer in distilled or a tiny bit of additive like I said I mix it. I used a couple drops of corrosion additive that came with my Feser Rad from 5 years ago and that stuff has worked great. I think it's pretty much the same as PT Nuke. I have never used a silver coil either. I'm curious to how well this EK additive holds up over time, but it's hard for me to find out when I keep changing everything in my system over 2 weeks or so and drain the loop once a week about tongue.gif . Maybe once this new build is done in the X9 I'm doing now, I may leave that alone for a while to see how that coolant does with distilled, but I'm sure I will be ripping the loop apart once I get a 2nd Titan X soon, or other gpu's in the next year HAHA..

I almost used some of that pastel coolant a couple weeks ago, but then I didn't buy it off the shelf. Maybe if it was red and more the color I would have liked in my setup, but it wasn't anything that matched what I was trying to do so.


Edit: YES, just try it. You have gone through plenty of time and effort already, what's another hour of flushing going to hurt before spending more money LOL. You never know, it could be all you needed, or not? Won't know till you try biggrin.gif
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RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
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2x 360mm Alphacool XT45 / 1x 480mm Alphacool Mo... EK X-Res 140 D5 vario Pump/Res combo + EK X-top... EK Supreme HF cpu / EK Acetal / Nickel with Nic... Windows 8.1 64bit 
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Asus ROG Swift 27" 144hz with G-Sync Samsung 65" 7150  Logitech G510s Corsair AX1200 
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