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Gotcha, don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not knocking IT Diva one bit at all. That would be foolish. Testing PH levels just seems crazy to me for water cooling on pc's, but I guess that's because I have never used any coolant's that have the need. I ONLY use distilled water, or sometimes a little bit of additive like what EK sells / includes with their kits. The small bottle that EK provides with the kits I've bought says to mix the 100ml bottle to 900ml of distilled water for a total of 1000ml. That's way too much for my liking and no need IMO. I can add half of that little bottle, 50ml, to a whole gallon of distilled water and it turns it plenty color for me to like and that's almost nothing really added to a gallon. I'm pretty much using straight distilled water at that mix ratio.

I've never once had any algae form in any of my loops or any loops I"ve done for anyone. I just pulled apart a loop I did for someone 4 years ago last week and it was clean as can be. He never once added even a drop of extra coolant to the loop. I put a huge res on the side of his tech bench build that held around 250ml easy, plus the rest of the loop. Filled his res almost to the top, about 90-95% full, when he brought it back it was around 65-70% full still, but clean as can be. I was very surprised at how clean it all was still.

I'm a firm believer in distilled or a tiny bit of additive like I said I mix it. I used a couple drops of corrosion additive that came with my Feser Rad from 5 years ago and that stuff has worked great. I think it's pretty much the same as PT Nuke. I have never used a silver coil either. I'm curious to how well this EK additive holds up over time, but it's hard for me to find out when I keep changing everything in my system over 2 weeks or so and drain the loop once a week about tongue.gif . Maybe once this new build is done in the X9 I'm doing now, I may leave that alone for a while to see how that coolant does with distilled, but I'm sure I will be ripping the loop apart once I get a 2nd Titan X soon, or other gpu's in the next year HAHA..

I almost used some of that pastel coolant a couple weeks ago, but then I didn't buy it off the shelf. Maybe if it was red and more the color I would have liked in my setup, but it wasn't anything that matched what I was trying to do so.


Edit: YES, just try it. You have gone through plenty of time and effort already, what's another hour of flushing going to hurt before spending more money LOL. You never know, it could be all you needed, or not? Won't know till you try biggrin.gif

Testing PH is only for coloured coolants,not normal water. The water based rad flux will comprehensively ruin Mayhems coolants,just run the hot tap into your rads for half hour for sparkling clean rads for everything else.
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I throw out all my sys prep bottles biggrin.gif. Never had needed them thumb.gif
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I throw out all my sys prep bottles biggrin.gif. Never had needed them thumb.gif

There may come a time!

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Testing PH is only for coloured coolants,not normal water. The water based rad flux will comprehensively ruin Mayhems coolants,just run the hot tap into your rads for half hour for sparkling clean rads for everything else.

I have done that too. Or with a MCP655 being so strong that they are, I would fill up the one side of my sink and have the pump pull hot water from that side and have the pump flush my rads out pretty quickly. I flush all my new rads out with water before I use them, then run some distilled water through them after tap water. Hot water tanks have a salt filter in them so it's not that good to just leave the tap water in without flushing with distilled after. Same reason you shouldn't use Hot water when making coffee or cooking because of the salt.

For how cheap distilled water is, I don't mind flushing my new rads with a gallon or 2 before using them. It's only $1 - $1.50 per gallon in the store by me for distilled. I can't argue about loosing $3 for knowing my rads are nice and clean wink.gif . I always loop my pump/res or res together and run those with some distilled before putting in my loops, not only to clean them, but also to make sure the pumps are working properly and are sealed nicely when attaching a res top to them.



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I throw out all my sys prep bottles biggrin.gif. Never had needed them thumb.gif

Have you actually tried them before to see how they do? I haven't yet so that's why I'm asking. I have a few bottles laying around just incase I needed to flush something more than just using distilled water or hot water, but that usually works to where I've never needed to use the sys prep. I've had others say to put 50% alcohol in your res, rads, or whatnot and close the ports up with a small piece of tube or plugs and shake them back and forth for a while and then flush them out, but I didn't really like the idea of putting that in my loop. Especially on acrylic or anything with o-rings. I wipe things down with alcohol, but don't flush the insides with it. It may be fine but I just haven't needed anything more than hot water at worst case, I guess because I only use distilled water or very little additive to distilled for my coolant's. Haven't gone with pastels or anything like that yet, even tho some are starting to look pretty dame sweet biggrin.gif
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There may come a time!

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Since the new advance launched, I've never used and never saw any side effects. Granted, I flush my rads thoroughly w/ vinager + hot distilled and I flush the rest w/ room temp distilled. Used both nickel and copper blocks btw. And again, run naked distilled water thumb.gif.
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I have done that too. Or with a MCP655 being so strong that they are, I would fill up the one side of my sink and have the pump pull hot water from that side and have the pump flush my rads out pretty quickly. I flush all my new rads out with water before I use them, then run some distilled water through them after tap water. Hot water tanks have a salt filter in them so it's not that good to just leave the tap water in without flushing with distilled after. Same reason you shouldn't use Hot water when making coffee or cooking because of the salt.

For how cheap distilled water is, I don't mind flushing my new rads with a gallon or 2 before using them. It's only $1 - $1.50 per gallon in the store by me for distilled. I can't argue about loosing $3 for knowing my rads are nice and clean wink.gif . I always loop my pump/res or res together and run those with some distilled before putting in my loops, not only to clean them, but also to make sure the pumps are working properly and are sealed nicely when attaching a res top to them.


Have you actually tried them before to see how they do? I haven't yet so that's why I'm asking. I have a few bottles laying around just incase I needed to flush something more than just using distilled water or hot water, but that usually works to where I've never needed to use the sys prep. I've had others say to put 50% alcohol in your res, rads, or whatnot and close the ports up with a small piece of tube or plugs and shake them back and forth for a while and then flush them out, but I didn't really like the idea of putting that in my loop. Especially on acrylic or anything with o-rings. I wipe things down with alcohol, but don't flush the insides with it. It may be fine but I just haven't needed anything more than hot water at worst case, I guess because I only use distilled water or very little additive to distilled for my coolant's. Haven't gone with pastels or anything like that yet, even tho some are starting to look pretty dame sweet biggrin.gif

I would be careful using hot water with your pumps. I think they have a pretty low operating temp.
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If your going to do Sysprep make sure to just do it on your rads. It took the finish off the inside of my fittings once before.
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I have done that too. Or with a MCP655 being so strong that they are, I would fill up the one side of my sink and have the pump pull hot water from that side and have the pump flush my rads out pretty quickly. I flush all my new rads out with water before I use them, then run some distilled water through them after tap water. Hot water tanks have a salt filter in them so it's not that good to just leave the tap water in without flushing with distilled after. Same reason you shouldn't use Hot water when making coffee or cooking because of the salt.

For how cheap distilled water is, I don't mind flushing my new rads with a gallon or 2 before using them. It's only $1 - $1.50 per gallon in the store by me for distilled. I can't argue about loosing $3 for knowing my rads are nice and clean wink.gif . I always loop my pump/res or res together and run those with some distilled before putting in my loops, not only to clean them, but also to make sure the pumps are working properly and are sealed nicely when attaching a res top to them.


Have you actually tried them before to see how they do? I haven't yet so that's why I'm asking. I have a few bottles laying around just incase I needed to flush something more than just using distilled water or hot water, but that usually works to where I've never needed to use the sys prep. I've had others say to put 50% alcohol in your res, rads, or whatnot and close the ports up with a small piece of tube or plugs and shake them back and forth for a while and then flush them out, but I didn't really like the idea of putting that in my loop. Especially on acrylic or anything with o-rings. I wipe things down with alcohol, but don't flush the insides with it. It may be fine but I just haven't needed anything more than hot water at worst case, I guess because I only use distilled water or very little additive to distilled for my coolant's. Haven't gone with pastels or anything like that yet, even tho some are starting to look pretty dame sweet biggrin.gif

I would be careful using hot water with your pumps. I think they have a pretty low operating temp.

Not D5's,they are solar recirc pumps,good for 90+c with a capable top. Its the stock top that has the low temp rating,not the pump.
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I would be careful using hot water with your pumps. I think they have a pretty low operating temp.

Let me rephrase that some. When I say hot water, that is meaning to the point of still being able to keep your hand in it. If you can put your hand in the water and keep it in there and not pull it out, that is hot water as like a jacuzzi. The hottest I've ever seen a jacuzzi is around 40c (104f) and that's as hot as I could stand to be in. That is well below the max water temp of the pumps. I wasn't talking like boiling water or nothing lol.. The MCP655 or D5 pumps are 55-60c max water temp I think is what the labels say. Looking back at how I posted above, I guess I should have mentioned what I was meaning by hot water. My bad tongue.gif

I'm pretty sure I have a pic of the label from the mcp655 I just took off that system I did from 4 years ago. I took some pic's of the water cooling parts since he wanted me to take the water loop off and put a simple Hyper 212 on instead. I'll look for a pic of the label. I'm at work or I would just look at the pump on my shelf.
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If your going to do Sysprep make sure to just do it on your rads. It took the finish off the inside of my fittings once before.

blinksmiley.gif Goodness... How many times have you used sysprep? Do you think it was sysprep that did it for sure?

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EK Rampage V Mosfet WaterBlock Original CSQ NB Eloops B12 - 2 1300rpm  Phobia 8way 4pin Fan Controller x 2 Ek Single Link CSQ Bridge x 2 
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Bitspower Z Tank (Clear) 250mm x 2 980 WaterBlocks x 2 Ek DDC Pump Top (Acrylic) x 2 Primochill 3/8" x 1/2" OD Clear Tubing 
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Bitspower 12mm Acyrlic Tubing 19" x 4  XSPC 3/8" x 1/2" Compression Fittings x 12 Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit Crossover 324K 
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Qnix 2710 Perfect Pixel 1440p  EVGA 1300 G2 CaseLabs SMA8 Darkside 12" Led Lighting  
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i7 7700k Asus Strix Z270i Gaming GALAX 980TI HOF Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 2400  
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Crucial 512 SSD EK Supremacy EVO White Bitspower 150ml Reservoir POM White x 2 Swiftech 18w DDC x 2 
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Bitspower 980ti HOF Waterblock (Clear)  EK SE 240mm Slim Radiator EK XE 240mm Radiator x 2 EK DDC Plexi top x 2  
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Windows 7 Professional NEX Moba White Pro EVGA 650 G2 Caselabs S3 
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