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Originally Posted by kizwan View Post

Do you have the link to wermad's post? I can only find one back 2012 which I'm pretty sure he is using the Pro LRT back then.

I also found a post by someone on another forum who contacted PrimoChill about it.
They thought somehow he received Pro LRT instead of Advanced LRT.
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Originally Posted by Jakusonfire View Post

Yeah the rubber mounts on the EK pumps are good but if the holder is attached to something flimsy like the case wall there is still a lot of vibration transmitted. I found having the pump mounted to the motherboard tray/rear case wall was much louder than having it mounted to a radiator using the EK 120 pump mount. As I have it now it is very quiet at full speed but fully silent pumps at high power is a bit of a water cooling myth/exaggeration.

I hear you. Though I thought that by adding Lamptron Isolation strips it would absorb the vibrations.
Sadly I can't really mount it to the radiator. The Corsair 650D is not a small case but still too small. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by kizwan View Post

So far you're the first person that I know reporting plasticizer problem with Primochill Advanced LRT. Considering how long you have run your loop, you should get a thin film of whitish/yellowish powder sticking on the internal tube wall, not clouding/hazing, unless you clean it before re-assembling the tube in the loop. I'm one of the people who is using the Adv LRT tube for two years without any problem. I did swapped a couple of tubes whenever I pull down my loop for cleaning but there's one or two tubes that still in the loop since day one. No plasticizer problem for me. Water temp always in mid 30s Celsius minimum.

Yeah. Weird, right?
Sure, maybe when I have it running for 2 years it would get clouded a bit. But the tubing is like 7-8 months old.
    
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That's the reason I stopped using clear tubing years ago and only use the colored tubing and just Distilled water..

I took apart my loop maybe a month ago on my 750D. Was using Primochill advanced. Here it is apart. Ran the loop for a year.





Replaced the Tubing with the same: Primochill Advanced and good to go.

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Originally Posted by kizwan View Post

Do you have the link to wermad's post? I can only find one back 2012 which I'm pretty sure he is using the Pro LRT back then.

I also found a post by someone on another forum who contacted PrimoChill about it.
They thought somehow he received Pro LRT instead of Advanced LRT.
Yeah, I remember back 2012-2013, that was the conclusion back then.
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Originally Posted by TheCautiousOne View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by By-Tor View Post

That's the reason I stopped using clear tubing years ago and only use the colored tubing and just Distilled water..

I took apart my loop maybe a month ago on my 750D. Was using Primochill advanced. Here it is apart. Ran the loop for a year.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Replaced the Tubing with the same: Primochill Advanced and good to go.

TCO
Yup, my tubes pretty much looks like that.
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Yeah, I remember back 2012-2013, that was the conclusion back then.
Yup, my tubes pretty much looks like that.

What did you replace them with?

TCO
     
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Yeah, I remember back 2012-2013, that was the conclusion back then.
Yup, my tubes pretty much looks like that.

What did you replace them with?

TCO
Replaced them with Advanced LRT too. Still have some left for next cleaning.
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Fully depends on the top and mounting. The D5 for Close Impact was dead silent it was fitting mounted on to the res,a substantial lump of mass, and remained so all the way to full power. The D5 in HeretEK was also silent and that was directly bolted to the chassis. I tend to find Bitspower tops are the quietest overall but my sample size is only 4.

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Yeah mine are all very very quiet when mounted correctly but none of my tops/pumps even when just dangling by tubing from my hand were truly zero noise. I could always hear something, and full speed is normally quieter than some of the mid speeds

It is irrelevant once its quieter than the hard drives but people sometimes get a bit hung up on silent vs effectively silent.

I find that also indeed. At full speed the pump makes less noise but the vibration sound is, together with speed 3, the loudest.

Tomorrow I will try to bolt it down differently. Will set it up like this: bolt+ring>rubber ring>case>rubber ring>pump holder>ring+nut.
Now the holder is isolated but the bolt is directly touching the case so that probably delivers a lot vibrations.

    
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Fully depends on the top and mounting. The D5 for Close Impact was dead silent it was fitting mounted on to the res,a substantial lump of mass, and remained so all the way to full power. The D5 in HeretEK was also silent and that was directly bolted to the chassis. I tend to find Bitspower tops are the quietest overall but my sample size is only 4.

Yeah mine are all very very quiet when mounted correctly but none of my tops/pumps even when just dangling by tubing from my hand were truly zero noise. I could always hear something, and full speed is normally quieter than some of the mid speeds

It is irrelevant once its quieter than the hard drives but people sometimes get a bit hung up on silent vs effectively silent.

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Originally Posted by Chopper1591 View Post


I find that also indeed. At full speed the pump makes less noise but the vibration sound is, together with speed 3, the loudest.

Tomorrow I will try to bolt it down differently. Will set it up like this: bolt+ring>rubber ring>case>rubber ring>pump holder>ring+nut.
Now the holder is isolated but the bolt is directly touching the case so that probably delivers a lot vibrations.


I think you might find that you still get the lower frequency vibration that moves the case wall even with the rubber. Is mounting to the floor a possibilty? I just think the rear wall is normally the worst place because its normally thin guage and only attached in a few places by rivets instead of being a part of the main mass.
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Yeah mine are all very very quiet when mounted correctly but none of my tops/pumps even when just dangling by tubing from my hand were truly zero noise. I could always hear something, and full speed is normally quieter than some of the mid speeds

It is irrelevant once its quieter than the hard drives but people sometimes get a bit hung up on silent vs effectively silent.

I have only ssds in the case and a hdd in a usb enclosure next to the case, my d5 is the loudest component by far in the define s.. I think because the panels are a bit flimsy, the pump is hard mounted to a steel bracket which is attached to the 140mm fan on the bottom of the case.

I wish caselabs would make a case like the define s, I love the size and layout but there's a reason it's so cheap =/ I would pay twice the price for a define s made out of 2mm alu with a more scratch resistant window.
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Replaced them with Advanced LRT too. Still have some left for next cleaning.

Excellent. I find that for clear tubing, Primochill Advanced LRT isn't so bad. 25ft for 25$ Is it? I've bought 50ft so far for the 750D. I think I bought another 25ft for my SMA8 to run in the lower compartment. thumb.gif

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