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Having an issue with my build. I have 2 questions.

1. I'm using soft tubing. How would you guys route it in this pic? I don't have any 90 degree fittings. Just normal fittings.

2. How would you mount the pump? The fan spot one the bottom right where I had planned to put it is covered by the PSU. The little spot on the far right with pre-drilled holes is blocked by the rad.



You know order has practically no difference in temps?
Cpu only loop?
Pump>Front rad>Top rad>Cpu block>Res>Pump.

Can highly advice you to get some adapters though (90, 45 degrees). Can make life a lot easier. smile.gif

Second point.
You can drill the holes yourself? That's what I did.
Which pump do you use and with what kind of mount? Tip of the day: Use a decoupler.

Let us know if you have more specific questions.

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Originally Posted by Chopper1591 View Post

You know order has practically no difference in temps?
Cpu only loop?
Pump>Front rad>Top rad>Cpu block>Res>Pump.

Can highly advice you to get some adapters though (90, 45 degrees). Can make life a lot easier. smile.gif

Second point.
You can drill the holes yourself? That's what I did.
Which pump do you use and with what kind of mount? Tip of the day: Use a decoupler.

Let us know if you have more specific questions.

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What's a decoupler?

I'm using This pump

I already have all of the fittings, do those plug into the end of a 90 degree bend? i.e. did I waste money getting them?

My question about routing the tubing wasn't really about the flow but how would you do it since the space is a little tighter than I expected.
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post #92414 of 107314
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Originally Posted by MIGhunter View Post

What's a decoupler?

Decouple - verb - to absorb the shock of

Decoupler - noun - The device or assembly that absorbs shock and vibration and prevents transference from one place to another

It can be something as simple as cutting an old mouse pad up into the size you need and placing it between the pump mount and your case. Below are some examples of different types from retail sources.

https://modmymods.com/aquacomputer-shoggy-sandwich-building-kit-for-pump-decoupling-version-20.html

https://modmymods.com/universal-pump-mounting-socket-eheim-phobya-laing.html

http://www.performance-pcs.com/ek-ddc-anti-vibration-mounting.html
post #92415 of 107314
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Originally Posted by MIGhunter View Post

What's a decoupler?

I'm using This pump

I already have all of the fittings, do those plug into the end of a 90 degree bend? i.e. did I waste money getting them?

My question about routing the tubing wasn't really about the flow but how would you do it since the space is a little tighter than I expected.

Nice pump.
Can recommend you to use the supplied standoffs and place the pump with those four attached onto the decoupler.

About the fittings. There are rotary fittings but I was talking about adapters. Adapters will allow you to use existing fittings.
I use a couple of Bitspower 90 degree rotary fittings, but as you already have sufficient fittings I can advice you something like this:

45 degree adapter: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21230/ex-tub-1998/Bitspower_G14_Thread_45-Degree_Rotary_Adapter_-_Black_Sparkle_BP-BS45R.html?tl=g30c101s1305#blank
90 degree adapter: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/23514/ex-tub-3033/Bitspower_G14_Thread_90-Degree_Rotary_Adapter_-_Black_Sparkle_BP-BS90R.html?tl=g30c101s1306

I like to use Bitspower but feel free to use whatever you like. Most fittings/adapters are close to each other price-wise.

If you have some more spare cash it might be handy to also get some extenders like these: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/25071/ex-tub-3334/Bitspower_G_14_Thread_Fitting_Extender_-_Silver_BP-WTP-C40.html?tl=g30c101s1354#blank
These are sold in various lengths. So if you do decide to use some be sure to measure first.

Angled fittings are handy to make sharper turns. Especially on you top radiator. There I would personally use extenders plus angled adapters. But you have the case standing near you so you have better insight in the space. Measure smile.gif

I know fittings and the likes can be a bit expensive but don't skimp. It can make the build so much easier. Less tubing is better (more water is more to cool) and looks better. You also risk tubing to kink when you make to sharp angles.
And remember, fittings will last you a long time if you do take care of them. You can never have to much tongue.gif.

See the reply of Questors and my reply to that.
Will also sort out your pump placement problem. Just used the supplied double sided tape to secure the Shoggy sandwich and place the pump on there, can be secured with double sided tape if needed. Mostly a pump is secure by its weight already.

You say you have little space? Here's mine, don't mind the phone pictures I just made: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

You see the angled fittings? Imagine when I have a straight fitting on the lower end of the gpu block. Would make the tubing much longer.

Now I think of it. Don't forget to make a drain line (been there, done that). See the piece of white tubing I have?


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Originally Posted by Questors View Post

Decouple - verb - to absorb the shock of

Decoupler - noun - The device or assembly that absorbs shock and vibration and prevents transference from one place to another

It can be something as simple as cutting an old mouse pad up into the size you need and placing it between the pump mount and your case. Below are some examples of different types from retail sources.

https://modmymods.com/aquacomputer-shoggy-sandwich-building-kit-for-pump-decoupling-version-20.html

https://modmymods.com/universal-pump-mounting-socket-eheim-phobya-laing.html

http://www.performance-pcs.com/ek-ddc-anti-vibration-mounting.html

Very nice Questors.
Couldn't respond better myself.

Only thing I want to add. Don't bolt the pump down if you can.
So preferable either buy the Shoggy sandwich, or make something similar yourself, and just place the pump on there.
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Does anyone use silicone grease or anything on the o-ring packings before inserting hard line tube into the fitting? Going to be trying soap for the bending insert if that doesn't work try some silicone grease or spray.
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Does anyone use silicone grease or anything on the o-ring packings before inserting hard line tube into the fitting? Going to be trying soap for the bending insert if that doesn't work try some silicone grease or spray.

I think silicone grease is the best for o-rings.
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Originally Posted by Questors View Post

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Decouple - verb - to absorb the shock of

Decoupler - noun - The device or assembly that absorbs shock and vibration and prevents transference from one place to another

It can be something as simple as cutting an old mouse pad up into the size you need and placing it between the pump mount and your case. Below are some examples of different types from retail sources.

https://modmymods.com/aquacomputer-shoggy-sandwich-building-kit-for-pump-decoupling-version-20.html

https://modmymods.com/universal-pump-mounting-socket-eheim-phobya-laing.html

http://www.performance-pcs.com/ek-ddc-anti-vibration-mounting.html

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Originally Posted by Chopper1591 View Post

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Nice pump.
Can recommend you to use the supplied standoffs and place the pump with those four attached onto the decoupler.

About the fittings. There are rotary fittings but I was talking about adapters. Adapters will allow you to use existing fittings.
I use a couple of Bitspower 90 degree rotary fittings, but as you already have sufficient fittings I can advice you something like this:

45 degree adapter: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21230/ex-tub-1998/Bitspower_G14_Thread_45-Degree_Rotary_Adapter_-_Black_Sparkle_BP-BS45R.html?tl=g30c101s1305#blank
90 degree adapter: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/23514/ex-tub-3033/Bitspower_G14_Thread_90-Degree_Rotary_Adapter_-_Black_Sparkle_BP-BS90R.html?tl=g30c101s1306

I like to use Bitspower but feel free to use whatever you like. Most fittings/adapters are close to each other price-wise.

If you have some more spare cash it might be handy to also get some extenders like these: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/25071/ex-tub-3334/Bitspower_G_14_Thread_Fitting_Extender_-_Silver_BP-WTP-C40.html?tl=g30c101s1354#blank
These are sold in various lengths. So if you do decide to use some be sure to measure first.

Angled fittings are handy to make sharper turns. Especially on you top radiator. There I would personally use extenders plus angled adapters. But you have the case standing near you so you have better insight in the space. Measure smile.gif

I know fittings and the likes can be a bit expensive but don't skimp. It can make the build so much easier. Less tubing is better (more water is more to cool) and looks better. You also risk tubing to kink when you make to sharp angles.
And remember, fittings will last you a long time if you do take care of them. You can never have to much tongue.gif.

See the reply of Questors and my reply to that.
Will also sort out your pump placement problem. Just used the supplied double sided tape to secure the Shoggy sandwich and place the pump on there, can be secured with double sided tape if needed. Mostly a pump is secure by its weight already.

You say you have little space? Here's mine, don't mind the phone pictures I just made: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

You see the angled fittings? Imagine when I have a straight fitting on the lower end of the gpu block. Would make the tubing much longer.

Now I think of it. Don't forget to make a drain line (been there, done that). See the piece of white tubing I have?


thumb.gif
Very nice Questors.
Couldn't respond better myself.

Only thing I want to add. Don't bolt the pump down if you can.
So preferable either buy the Shoggy sandwich, or make something similar yourself, and just place the pump on there.
Thanks. Good info. I was really hoping to finish it this week instead of waiting another week. Oh well.

Another question, I've seen a few people run from the radiator to top cap of the reservoir. When you do that, how do you fill the system?
Edited by MIGhunter - 11/5/15 at 8:30am
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post #92419 of 107314
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Another question, I've seen a few people run from the radiator to top cap of the reservoir. When you do that, how do you fill the system?

Many reservoirs have a multiple port option for the top cap. They could be filling it locally at the cap with a funnel through and unused port.
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Thanks. Good info. I was really hoping to finish it this week instead of waiting another week. Oh well.

Another question, I've seen a few people run from the radiator to top cap of the reservoir. When you do that, how do you fill the system?

I specifically replaced my bitspower reservoir cap with 3 ports for feeding in, filling and LED.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/bitspower-z-cap-ii-with-g1-4-x3-white-pom-version.html
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