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Originally Posted by prznar1 View Post

Nice builds man. Much work, such wow biggrin.gif
Could you tell me what fittings you were using? (dont care about angled, because i never liked them. just want to know about standard fittings)

Standard fittings are Bitspower C47. Deluxe White thumb.gif

They are sold in a pair, but I have purchased singles from Dazmode in Canada also.



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Since you're going with clear coolant, and the hard tubing conversion would be pricey, I'd recommend EK ZMT tubing.

Imo the black tubing would work well with that black and red case and your color scheme.

Alright thanks.
No issues with the EK tubing? Like platiciser?
    
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Correct me if I'm wrong and i could very well be, but don't all 12 & 16 mm fittings use the same G1/4 thread? Therefore the opening in the fitting is the same allowing only the volume that will fit threw it to go threw it. And most fittings from what I have seen have about a 10 mm opening, so it's really only aesthetics to go with 16 mm?

There is a question in there somewhere I swear.
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post #98854 of 107099
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Correct me if I'm wrong and i could very well be, but don't all 12 & 16 mm fittings use the same G1/4 thread? Therefore the opening in the fitting is the same allowing only the volume that will fit threw it to go threw it. And most fittings from what I have seen have about a 10 mm opening, so it's really only aesthetics to go with 16 mm?

There is a question in there somewhere I swear.

Here are the diagrams for a 16mm vs a 12mm




12mm is first, 16mm is Second

I see no reason why you wouldn't be correct. The only element that could change the equation would be the pump.
Edited by TheCautiousOne - 6/22/16 at 7:11am
     
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i just swaped out my Alphacool ST30 420mm for a Nemesis 420 GTS and saw a 4c drop in coolant temps when running the new 3d Mark stress test with everything else being the same

didnt expect such a drop tbh

makes me want to swap out my UT60 240 for a 240 SR2 MP and go all hardware labs

even tho the coolant temps are a lot lower the GPU temps only dropped by 2c or so but then that could be within the margin of error
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i just swaped out my Alphacool ST30 420mm for a Nemesis 420 GTS and saw a 4c drop in coolant temps when running the new 3d Mark stress test with everything else being the same

didnt expect such a drop tbh

makes me want to swap out my UT60 240 for a 240 SR2 MP and go all hardware labs

even tho the coolant temps are a lot lower the GPU temps only dropped by 2c or so but then that could be within the margin of error

If you absolutely must replace the UT60, do it with the Nemesis GTX instead.
post #98857 of 107099
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Originally Posted by TheCautiousOne View Post

Standard fittings are Bitspower C47. Deluxe White thumb.gif

They are sold in a pair, but I have purchased singles from Dazmode in Canada also.



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And those are the push in type fittings right? Seeing your builds i assume you had no issues with them, no leaks etc. Because i can get my hands on ek version for dirty cheap. So i wonder how those things work.
post #98858 of 107099
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Originally Posted by TheCautiousOne View Post

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Originally Posted by Dasandmancometh View Post

Correct me if I'm wrong and i could very well be, but don't all 12 & 16 mm fittings use the same G1/4 thread? Therefore the opening in the fitting is the same allowing only the volume that will fit threw it to go threw it. And most fittings from what I have seen have about a 10 mm opening, so it's really only aesthetics to go with 16 mm?

There is a question in there somewhere I swear.

Here are the diagrams for a 16mm vs a 12mm
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

12mm is first, 16mm is Second

I see no reason why you wouldn't be correct. The only element that could change the equation would be the pump.



What you're not taking into consideration here is the length of the smaller, (inside the threaded area) diameter versus the length of the larger tubing diameter.

The tubing flow velocity increases when it's cross sectional area is reduced, and then slows back down again when the original larger diameter is recovered, so that when the smaller diameter makes up only a very small percentage of the total length, it doesn't do much to reduce the actual flow.

The concept that the flow thru the system is somehow ultimately determined by the inner diameter of the fitting is effectively false within the parameters of PC liquid cooling systems.

Overall, the vast majority of restriction within the loop comes from the water blocks, primarily the CPU, and the GPU blocks, and then the rads.

What small percentage of total restriction that comes from the tubing, regardless of whether it's ~12mm or ~16mm, and the restriction of the fittings, is far enough down the list that it just doesn't make any practical difference in the overall flow rate, all else staying equal.

While tubing size is really pretty much just about personal aesthetics for the most part, although the smaller size may be easier to negotiate in a small or cramped build, while conversely, it might look "lost" in a very large case with a minimal loop, . . . . it IS NOT because the fittings for both sizes have the same inside diameter.

Darlene
Edited by IT Diva - 6/22/16 at 7:55am
post #98859 of 107099
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And those are the push in type fittings right? Seeing your builds i assume you had no issues with them, no leaks etc. Because i can get my hands on ek version for dirty cheap. So i wonder how those things work.

They are push in fittings. Once the tubing is seated "Correctly" then, only then, Did I not have any leaks.... I once was a scuba diver on many occasions in the builds I have created, but that is another story for another time lachen.gif

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What you're not taking into consideration here is the length of the smaller, (inside the threaded area) diameter versus the length of the larger tubing diameter.

The tubing flow velocity increases when it's cross sectional area is reduced, and then slows back down again when the original larger diameter is recovered, so that when the smaller diameter makes up only a very small percentage of the total length, it doesn't do much to reduce the actual flow.

The concept that the flow thru the system is somehow ultimately determined by the inner diameter of the fitting is effectively false within the parameters of PC liquid cooling systems.

Overall, the vast majority of restriction within the loop comes from the water blocks, primarily the CPU, and the GPU blocks, and then the rads.

What small percentage of total restriction that comes from the tubing, regardless of whether it's ~12mm or ~16mm, and the restriction of the fittings, is far enough down the list that it just doesn't make any practical difference in the overall flow rate, all else staying equal.

While tubing size is really pretty much just about personal aesthetics for the most part, although the smaller size may be easier to negotiate in a small or cramped build, while conversely, it might look "lost" in a very large case with a minimal loop, . . . . it IS NOT because the fittings for both sizes have the same inside diameter.

Darlene

Darlene to the Rescue, as always. I suppose I could say I was wrong biggrin.gif

Wouldn't be the first time, or the last. rolleyes.gif

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Thx for all info TCO.
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