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If the GPU blocks are in parallel or semi-parallel you'll be fine w/ a single pump.

I think he will be alright even with serial,I could go on with examples but I have said it so often....
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I'm having a hard time finding a good spot for a 2nd pump. Two gpu blocks are in parallel and then the two sets are in series. How about two D5 pumps setup in parallel mode? I've never done that and wonder if they would fight each other too much if I did if it even makes sense. My rig is all over the place at the moment in the kitchen lol.
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I'm having a hard time finding a good spot for a 2nd pump. Two gpu blocks are in parallel and then the two sets are in series. How about two D5 pumps setup in parallel mode? I've never done that and wonder if they would fight each other too much if I did if it even makes sense. My rig is all over the place at the moment in the kitchen lol.

No experience myself but parallel pumping seems like a no-go.

My stuff usually expands past one room. lachen.gif


Edit:
Just made a few more drawings. It's hard to plan rigid tubing IMO.
I have no clue what would look better.... and don't want to spend a lot on tubing to try them all. biggrin.gif

4 ideas:





I kinda like the straight tubing on the third layout.
Might also do those straights with the pump next to the lower rad.

What do you guys think?


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Edited by Chopper1591 - 7/2/16 at 10:54am
    
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post #99124 of 107307
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I'm having a hard time finding a good spot for a 2nd pump. Two gpu blocks are in parallel and then the two sets are in series. How about two D5 pumps setup in parallel mode? I've never done that and wonder if they would fight each other too much if I did if it even makes sense. My rig is all over the place at the moment in the kitchen lol.

https://martinsliquidlab.wordpress.com/2011/04/26/pump-setup-series-vs-parallel/

Parallel blocks is fine. Parallel pumps is a bad idea. Essentially you loose the redundancy of serial pumps in case of failure of one of the pumps. You most likely will be fine with one pump. Remember efficiency of these pumps increase a lot when the flow is small.
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Why a rotated 90* on the block? You will get that with a properly bent tube. Okay I think I see now, you're referring to the tube itself coming off the GPU block is rotated and bent at a 45 to link up with the CPU block? thinking.gif

Otherwise I have to say that I do indeed like the 3rd version otherwise. biggrin.gif

Pump and Res are in a reasonable location. But don't forget to include a S/O valve and a T to your setup if you're gonna do Hardline. Otherwise draining your loop is gonna be a heckuva chore. wink.gif

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Why a rotated 90* on the block? You will get that with a properly bent tube. Okay I think I see now, you're referring to the tube itself coming off the GPU block is rotated and bent at a 45 to link up with the CPU block? thinking.gif

Otherwise I have to say that I do indeed like the 3rd version otherwise. biggrin.gif

Pump and Res are in a reasonable location. But don't forget to include a S/O valve and a T to your setup if you're gonna do Hardline. Otherwise draining your loop is gonna be a heckuva chore. wink.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

Oh no, I actually meant a 90 degree turn of the cpu block itself. The drawing was a bit misleading....

I can also do this so I can still use the pump bracket to absorb vibrations.

Can switch the gpu to rad and rad to res line but I think the above looks better.

Ehmm. What do you mean with s/o valve?
And I do of course use a drain line. Forgot to do it when I did my first build (with soft tubing) and it was a PITA to drain. biggrin.gif


Also
I am about ready to place my order for everything I need but can someone give me some insight in the difference of PETG tubes? Why are Bitspower for example so much more expensive compared to EK and CF1?
  • Bitspower None Chamfer PETG Link Tube OD12MM-Length 1000MM - BP-NCPLT12-L1000 €12,95
  • CF1 Hard Tube 12/10 mm PETG - 5 x 50cm €19,95
  • EK-HD PETG Tube 10/12mm 500mm - 2pcs €6,95

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post #99127 of 107307
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Oh no, I actually meant a 90 degree turn of the cpu block itself. The drawing was a bit misleading....

I can also do this so I can still use the pump bracket to absorb vibrations.

Can switch the gpu to rad and rad to res line but I think the above looks better.

Ehmm. What do you mean with s/o valve?
And I do of course use a drain line. Forgot to do it when I did my first build (with soft tubing) and it was a PITA to drain. biggrin.gif


Also
I am about ready to place my order for everything I need but can someone give me some insight in the difference of PETG tubes? Why are Bitspower for example so much more expensive compared to EK and CF1?
  • Bitspower None Chamfer PETG Link Tube OD12MM-Length 1000MM - BP-NCPLT12-L1000 €12,95
  • CF1 Hard Tube 12/10 mm PETG - 5 x 50cm €19,95
  • EK-HD PETG Tube 10/12mm 500mm - 2pcs €6,95

Bitspower is more expensive because Vincent needs a new yacht.
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Bitspower is more expensive because Vincent needs a new yacht.

Lol, genuinely lost it when reading that.
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Ehmm. What do you mean with s/o valve?

And I do of course use a drain line. Forgot to do it when I did my first build (with soft tubing) and it was a PITA to drain. biggrin.gif



Also
I am about ready to place my order for everything I need but can someone give me some insight in the difference of PETG tubes? Why are Bitspower for example so much more expensive compared to EK and CF1?
  • Bitspower None Chamfer PETG Link Tube OD12MM-Length 1000MM - BP-NCPLT12-L1000 €12,95
  • CF1 Hard Tube 12/10 mm PETG - 5 x 50cm €19,95
  • EK-HD PETG Tube 10/12mm 500mm - 2pcs €6,95


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S/O valve or "shutoff valve" or "ball valve" keeps things from getting messy when you drain. BPs are rather spendy but they look sharp and don't feel cheap either. I rather like mine. It cost me to get only 2 fittings when I ordered it from PPCs, but it was what I could afford to do when I pulled the trigger on it with my Dominator block. PPCs' likes bleeding my budget dry with their shipping costs. At least it takes a whack at how much I have left to purchase for my build. MMRS Res, Darkside LED strips, Three 360 PEs(maybe two with an SE) nine Darkside GTs, more Hardline and making yet another change to my fittings. Likely to be getting the new Monsoon Economy Hardline fittings. So out with the old and unused and in with the new. I swear this build changes fittings more than a stripper changes her costume. rolleyes.gifbiggrin.gif

Reason for expense is simple, the more difficult it is for a vendor to procure hardware the more they pass it on to us. Then of course you're paying for name brand recognition with BP. Think of them as the Nike Air Jordans of the water cooling world. wink.gif

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A lifetime ago we (me and the other guys I worked with) used to pull computer equipment off of submarines after they were done with sea trials. We then hosed down the equipment with fresh water followed by spraying them with a chemical that would replace/displace water. This stuff would even be effective for bulkhead connectors. We then left the equipment to dry for a time, power checked it, packed it all up and sent it out to the shipyards to be re-installed in the next submarine in line for it. worked just fine. And this wasn't just a computer, this was 8-10 19 inch racks of equipment.
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