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Please...just give me EVGA..you will get your trophies
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hahah ill search for 2 9600s and get a dice pot for each. god knows i cant play with the big dogs with their 4 5870s lol. i got my 30k and im happy now.... for now
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post #53 of 282
What could I expect from my 4890 Toxic? It's a little choked for air as it's in Crossfire, but I could switch it to be the bottom card.

Currenty, I can complete Vantage at 1000/1100 with the fans on 100% with the voltages raised to 1.45V/1.25V and my CPU at 4.3GHz. I haven't tried raising the CPU yet, but if I go to 1000/1200, one of the GPU's (not sure which one) freezes.

Also, is it possible to solder on an 8-pin PCI-E power and flash my Diamond XOC to the Toxic BIOS?

Because that would be glorious. This card actually OC's better than my Toxic given the same voltages.
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post #54 of 282
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Originally Posted by G|F.E.A.D|Killa View Post
oh i just want the 06 WR, i want to take my i7 to 4.7ghz, and get some 9600s modded by you and break some records. let me price out the gear
Cool. Just leave the single card Vantage for me.

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Originally Posted by CL3P20 View Post
Please...just give me EVGA..you will get your trophies
Remember CL, not all the EVGA GT's are Samsung. Though, I do know how to tell which modules they have from the front of the card with cooler on(pic added). That's only for reference designs though.
    
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post #55 of 282
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Cool. Just leave the single card Vantage for me.


Remember CL, not all the EVGA GT's are Samsung. Though, I do know how to tell which modules they have from the front of the card with cooler on(pic added). That's only for reference designs though.
Gotta rep that^^ I didnt even mention why EVGA...yet Pizza knows...the force is strong with him.

@ bassplayer- 4890's take mods well..but with shaders/core being raised together, cooling is always your first limit to overcome with ATI. With mods, you might be able to bench 100mhz higher than your current high clock...DDR5 can be bumped up in speed a bit too with some additional voltage.

**IMO- I was getting 21k with my Xfired 4850 setup [using e8400] most folks that I have seen with i7+xfired 4890's will pull ~25k with a decent OC on their CPU....so the mods go bring quite a bit of performance with them, provided you can keep the GPU cool.
post #56 of 282
CL3P20: What are the maximum voltages for the 295?
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post #57 of 282
I'm so lost about this whole voltage thing.

Using GPU Tool, I set my voltages at 1.5V core and 1.3V memory. For some reason, I cannot make it through 3DMark06 at 1040/1110 on the Toxic and 1000/1110 on the Diamond. I made it through fine on Vantage... I can't even get 10 seconds past the first scene.

GPU-Z reads the voltages after I put them in.. but I'm confused. The VID on the Diamond is 1.3125V core/1.2V memory. Bumping this to 1.5V/1.3V won't give me 75MHz core and 50MHz memory over stock (925/1050)? Same with the Toxic, but from 1.4V and 960MHz core.

Ideally, I want 1050MHz core and 1200MHz memory on both. Is this possible?
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post #58 of 282
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CL3P20: What are the maximum voltages for the 295?
I believe OCP hits at 1.4v...but I would not run more than ~1.25-1.28v on air. Shader clock speeds might be limited still depending on temps though...those GPU's are jam packed with shaders..and the funky core straps can make it difficult to 'nail' the clocks you want sometimes if your cooling is not up to keeping the shaders cool.




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I'm so lost about this whole voltage thing.

Using GPU Tool, I set my voltages at 1.5V core and 1.3V memory. For some reason, I cannot make it through 3DMark06 at 1040/1110 on the Toxic and 1000/1110 on the Diamond. I made it through fine on Vantage... I can't even get 10 seconds past the first scene.

GPU-Z reads the voltages after I put them in.. but I'm confused. The VID on the Diamond is 1.3125V core/1.2V memory. Bumping this to 1.5V/1.3V won't give me 75MHz core and 50MHz memory over stock (925/1050)? Same with the Toxic, but from 1.4V and 960MHz core.

Ideally, I want 1050MHz core and 1200MHz memory on both. Is this possible?

Since shaders are locked with the core speed...you might be at a cooling limit and not a voltage limit..same happened with my 4850's...regardless of voltage, they would not clock beyond 865mhz....with load temps @ 41c
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Since shaders are locked with the core speed...you might be at a cooling limit and not a voltage limit..same happened with my 4850's...regardless of voltage, they would not clock beyond 865mhz....with load temps @ 41c
Wait... how could it be a cooling limit if they were only at 41°C?
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post #60 of 282
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Shaders need to be cold...and with soooo many of them packed together..they build internal heat quickly. Its just like CPU cache...if you look at a E7xxx @ whatever speed, with X-vcore, compared to an E8xxx at the same speed and vcore, typically the CPU with more cache has the higher internal temp...and can hit temp walls sooner as well when OC'ing.

Same can be said for GPU's... the more shaders, the more internal heat is build-up. This is why a GTX285 will not hit 2100mhz shaders on water cooling...there is just to much heat build-up going on for them to be stable there.

IMO- If you provide more voltage and cannot get the GPU stable...and temps are great..you may be at the clock limit of the GPU's core...or simply a temp limit for the shaders.
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