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Hey, I'v been researching for my new baby for the past few months... I came across this site (It's pretty awesome)... and being only a intermediate/novice builder of computers, I am seeking some help on my new rig...

Idea for computer: something to play new games at top speeds for the next 6 months-year... From them on remain an exteremly stable and well taken care of computer for everyday things...

Questions:
1)Which items should I get warantys for?
2)Ram, Cpu cooler?
3) I'm into getting my computer really cooled, so it will last as long as possible... whats a good idea for cooling?
4) Most importantly... What should I do for overlocking ( the graphics card is already done, what should i invest some researching into?


Right now:
(First Three Entrys I plan to get off of Monarchcomputers in one of their test bundles)
Mobo: Asus a8n-E (939) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131530

CPU: 64 X2 3800 (939)
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...ricewatch&NR=1

CPU cooler: Thermaltake?... What is a good model for 50$ or under

Ram: OCZ??? I'm not to sure, I definitly need a Gig of quality ddr (or whatever is in these days)...

Video Card: 7800 GT 460/1100 (once i get a new bios for it)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130256

Video Card cooler: Arctic Nv5 revision 3
http://www.xoxide.com/arctic-cooling...evision-2.html

Case: Lian-Li http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112077

PSU: THermaltake 470watts
http://www.xoxide.com/twv480.html

Hard drive: 80g western digital raptor
http://www.newegg.com/product/Produc...82E16822144160

Hard drive cooler:
http://www.xoxide.com/vavohadrcosy.html

I'm getting round cabbles and the works...

Please if anyone has any suggestions, ideas or comments please post...

I would apretiate any support I can get...
post #2 of 10
I wouldnt go for the 3800 X2 dual core yet. Especially that one. For games and everyday use I would option for the 3700 or 4000+ San Diego instead. The 3700+ i believe is better value/overclocker than the 4000+.

Your hard drive cooler the vantec is EXCELLENT. I have 2 of these on my rig they drop temps real well and do their job well. Another bonus is that when the crossblower fan is on LO you cant hear it at all. You have to put you ear onto the cooler to make sure its working lol thats how quiet it is.

I would go for the A8N-SLI they go cheap now and offer much better upgradablility later on especially If you decide to buy another 7800GT down the track.

If you get a 3700+ instead of the 3800+ which will outperform it in most areas the money you save on it I would buy a thermaltake bigwater water cooling kit. I have one also its perfect in every way. Since your a intermediate/beginner who is focused on cooling and long life time this water cooling kit is perfect. It will alow you some decent overclocks as well also. And they go dirt cheap now.

Goodluck.
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If you want pure gaming, ditch the X2 3800 (yes I love that CPU but oh well) and get a regular 3700+. That CPU will OC to and beyond the performance of a 4000+. Great video card selection, 7800GT is a great deal. That PSU isn't the greatest of choices. For one thing, Thermaltake doesn't have the same quality that other companies have. Secondly, the ampreage is pretty low, just hitting 20A. If I were you, I'd upgrade that PSU for an extra $20 and be sure that it'll last you longer.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Drummer69
If you want pure gaming, ditch the X2 3800 (yes I love that CPU but oh well) and get a regular 3700+. That CPU will OC to and beyond the performance of a 4000+. Great video card selection, 7800GT is a great deal. That PSU isn't the greatest of choices. For one thing, Thermaltake doesn't have the same quality that other companies have. Secondly, the ampreage is pretty low, just hitting 20A. If I were you, I'd upgrade that PSU for an extra $20 and be sure that it'll last you longer.
Seriously, How much of a difference is 3700+ to the 3800+ x2 as far as gaming?? I think mine is way faster than the 3700+
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i would also like to know where the performance difference would be
i have been as high as 2.8 on my X2 with air and find it hard to believe a 3700 is that much better.

correct me if i am wrong here but the FX-60 is going to be dual core 13x200. it seems self defeating to say today go single core when as soon as that dual FX drops everyone will be looking to upgrade. if you can enjoy that speed now at 1/4 the cost why not?

i have seen several reviews showing the x2's beating the FX lines in games right now.
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post #6 of 10
Try gettin a DFI lanparty DR expert mobo, great for oc'ing.
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case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133154

cpu cooler - thermalright SI-120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835109123

motherboard - DFI either the sli-dr or the sli-dr expert (once you have a dfi board you wont want anything else)- the asus board is pretty much an average/budget board mixed with your CPU and GPU it just doesnt belong

memory - why not go with 2x1gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227210

hds- i would either go with two raptors raid 0 or 2-4 sataII 80gb hitachi's (raided as well)
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post #8 of 10
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It seems that i should upgrade to a better mobo then...

The Dfi land party sli-dr is available from monarch... does anyone have objections to that?... After more thought into the Sli-dr from DFI... It says it is made to be overclocked and not necessarily stable... I'm looking for a compromise, my build will definitely be overclocked but I want it to be a manageable push on the hardware, thus lasting a long time.

My case I'm very confident with, won't change that...

I understand my 470Watt psu might not do it... although I thought the lcd display on my Thermaltake would be pretty cool

I'm still thinking of doing the X2 simply because in the future they will be utilized
more and more... and I just hear good things about it... Also as much as I want this to play Oblivion once it comes out and a few other games(which I will want at top proformance), later down the road this is really a computer that I'm just going to try to keep with me for as long as I can (in very good condition), regardless of whether I have the top game performance at the time...

For the Cpu cooler.. the 120 looks nice.. the 90c seems better to me though (smaller, but not a big compromise)... non the less Monarch doesn't offer either of them (But i guess i could install it on my own?)

Ram? I don't know if I can afford 2 gigs right now... as much as it sounds nice, I would rather get 2x512 and then get another when my birthday comes around in spring.
post #9 of 10
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ah hate to bump
post #10 of 10
I like dual core. I like the idea of it, and I have heard they clock alright. I would be more than satisifed witha 2.5 GHz dual core 3800+. If I had the money to buy whatever computer parts I wanted, a dual core would be on the list.

that PSU is junk. only 18A on the 12v rail, for $75? Look in my buyer's guide for PSU recommendations.

Graphics card is nice, but I don't like SLI or Crossfire at all. Waste of money, I think.

I would personally get two hard drives and RAID them, unless you have the money to burn on a raptor.

check the buyer guide in my sig.
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