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i thought it does freeze? I thought i needed some matches to light a fire under the motherboard to keep it warm while using dice?
hahahaha

The cold bug back a while ago was at 0c.... so its not that far from the truth.
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No, but you will need a hairdryer to dry out your ice, otherwise it will be too wet XD
 
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No, but you will need a hairdryer to dry out your ice, otherwise it will be too wet XD
OMG Of course! This whole time I kept trying to use towels to dry off the ice but I was too slow, no wonder, a hair dryer will dry it out so much faster! I'm gonna need a bigger freezer soon.

On a serious note which I'll probably make a new thread on in a week or so...

What all parts of the computer don't like sub-zero? Reason I ask is my ambients are going to be in the -10 to -30C range shortly and need to know if some things won't work. I think the MB has issues with cold weather, I left my window open last winter in really cold weather and my comp wouldn't boot tell my room warmed up.

MB? North/South bridge? Ram? GPU? PSU? HDD? Any other components that don't like sub-zero?

Weekend after this once the Pentium 4's arrive I'll have some sub-zero air runs up and start tweaking to get ready, looks like Halloween will be a weekend of DICE runs.
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OMG Of course! This whole time I kept trying to use towels to dry off the ice but I was too slow, no wonder, a hair dryer will dry it out so much faster! I'm gonna need a bigger freezer soon.

On a serious note which I'll probably make a new thread on in a week or so...

What all parts of the computer don't like sub-zero? Reason I ask is my ambients are going to be in the -10 to -30C range shortly and need to know if some things won't work. I think the MB has issues with cold weather, I left my window open last winter in really cold weather and my comp wouldn't boot tell my room warmed up.

MB? North/South bridge? Ram? GPU? PSU? HDD? Any other components that don't like sub-zero?

Weekend after this once the Pentium 4's arrive I'll have some sub-zero air runs up and start tweaking to get ready, looks like Halloween will be a weekend of DICE runs.
Are you going to be using the P5k? I never really had any problems running in cold ambients before, I did crack out a mobo a long time ago when I turned it on in about -20C weather, hair-lined it right behind the socket. It wasn'r proofed or anything and this is back when some mobo's, including this one, were pretty thin.

Some boards NB are cold bugged, if DICE and acetone are to cold for it just use DICE, that should just get you down to 0C/32F instead of -78C or so.

I'm just setting up a new DFI P45 to do some Celly runs on, the P35/P45 are my board of choice but I've been just using a Swifty big copper slug NB HSF, this one I'm proofing to use a NB pot with also, guess I'll see how it does.

Now the v-reg's I'd really like to know myself, I keep cooking them. I have just been putting copper ram sinks on them and blowing a Pana across them. They may very well be like ram, the voltage kills them before the heat ever affects them, just feeling around on them while benching there not very warm to the touch at all with the way I rig them. But if I really push a +1.7 v-core I've only been getting 2 or 3 runs out of the DFI before they cook.
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Are you going to be using the P5k? I never really had any problems running in cold ambients before, I did crack out a mobo a long time ago when I turned it on in about -20C weather, hair-lined it right behind the socket. It wasn'r proofed or anything and this is back when some mobo's, including this one, were pretty thin.

Some boards NB are cold bugged, if DICE and acetone are to cold for it just use DICE, that should just get you down to 0C/32F instead of -78C or so.

I'm just setting up a new DFI P45 to do some Celly runs on, the P35/P45 are my board of choice but I've been just using a Swifty big copper slug NB HSF, this one I'm proofing to use a NB pot with also, guess I'll see how it does.

Now the v-reg's I'd really like to know myself, I keep cooking them. I have just been putting copper ram sinks on them and blowing a Pana across them. They may very well be like ram, the voltage kills them before the heat ever affects them, just feeling around on them while benching there not very warm to the touch at all with the way I rig them. But if I really push a +1.7 v-core I've only been getting 2 or 3 runs out of the DFI before they cook.
Not sure if I'm gonna run the P5K or the P5N once its back from a RMA, I'm in the process of selling off the majority of my hardware since all I use is my laptops now, only using the desktop for project/benching now. Someone sent back an offer on one set of RAM and the P5K so if that goes through it'll either be the P5N or sell it once its back and get a good motherboard. Was looking at the Biostar i45 board possibly, also I need some better clocking ram, my OCZ max out @ 900Mhz atm. DICE might have to hold off a week or two possibly.

Also, what can I use instead of Nail Polish? I want something that can be removed / won't physically damage the board in the event it needs to be RMA'd.
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Eraser + Shop towels = win win
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Yeah eraser isn't bad and it's easy to take off, I've tried it and it works petty well but I prefer Conformal. Or you can use Liquid Tape, just paint on a couple of coats and then use grease and neoprene over that. It peels off real easily, wipe your mobo with de-natured alcohol first to get any greasy finger prints off so it will stick on well. You can get it at auto parts stores or WalMart for $5 or 6 bux a can.

I do mine the old fashioned way with Conformal, di-electric grease and neoprene, so far I've not lost a board to condensation, I've proofed and sub-ambient ran a lot of them with TEC, phase and DICE. There is a good sticky in the TEC section for Comformal proofing anda good one in here on the eraser way. The Conformal protects against thermal shock which can crack your mobo out. The eraser acts in the same way.

Just remember that if you don't grease your socket and you let you pot thaw out over night you want to dump that condensation out of your socket before you do another run, the condensation thats in the socket can freeze and bend your pins. If you do grease your socket be sure not to over fill it or when you clamp your chip down the pressure from the grease being compacted can bend your pins.

I use a 3/8" HDPE back-plate with 6-32 studs, (make one stud a inch or two longer and it's easier to stab your block or pot onto them) and put a piece of greased neoprene between it and the mobo to stop condensation on the back. I always notch mine to leave the back of the v-regs open to air, I keep a little fan blowing across the back to help keep them cool. You can make one out of a cutting board or where I usually get mine here..SM ...or eBay.

Some random proofing pic's.
























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