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I just got my expert board and opt 170 ,,, 0543 stepping in the mail today and am getting ready to fire it all up. I was curious how long I should let it run at stock speeds to let the thermal paste set,,, and to let it burn in?

also im kind of new to overclocking and was wondering if letting it set and burning it in where the same things?

I have done some intel overclocking in the past but this is my first venture into AMD overclocking and was wondering if anyone else with the DFI expert knows the best place to start I have read most of the guides but was just wondering if anyone had anything that seemed to work for them...
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i installed my opti 170 and automatically set it to 2.4 ghz for its first boot but i cant recommend this since i dont know if its the preferred method, it will take a little while to settle your thermal paste - run some folding or prime to get the temp up and do that for (well however long you want really)

by the way let us know what you get with that thing, ive got mine up to 2.7 and ive ran windows at 2.8 but couldnt pass any test for stability wise, it doesnt seem like alot of people here have this cpu so i dont have much to compare it to as far as overclocks
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That is one very nice setup you have there and should go well for you.

With any DFI it is best to get the BIOS sorted first off.. there is one release and a few Beta.. the one I am using is 11-17, attached.

Use only the Orange slots as the Yellows are to be used only when 4 modules are installed.

The Expert will take you some time to sort the BIOS out on, more so than the the earlier models, esp the Mem timings... Drive strength will need to be played with to get anywhere.

The TIM can take anywhere up to 200hrs to cure, do some initial load /idle / off cycles to help it along.

You will also find that one core will be stronger than the other so when priming (both cores simultaneously) one may need to be 'burnt-in'.. there is a technique which we can discuss when you get to that point.

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That is one very nice setup you have there and should go well for you.

With any DFI it is best to get the BIOS sorted first off.. there is one release and a few Beta.. the one I am using is 11-17, attached.

Use only the Orange slots as the Yellows are to be used only when 4 modules are installed.

The Expert will take you some time to sort the BIOS out on, more so than the the earlier models, esp the Mem timings... Drive strength will need to be played with to get anywhere.

The TIM can take anywhere up to 200hrs to cure, do some initial load /idle / off cycles to help it along.

You will also find that one core will be stronger than the other so when priming (both cores simultaneously) one may need to be 'burnt-in'.. there is a technique which we can discuss when you get to that point.

Happy OC'ing
thanks for the fast reply ,, well I got home late from the work christmas party but decided to go ahead and build. I have it all setup and mounted my water block and ram and everything back into the case. It is currently running a leak test just to make sure that nothing got disturbed in my flow during the new install. I will probably let it run over night and then fire up the board tomorrow morning.

Does DFI have an in windows bios option or should I just load it straight off a floppy for the one you attached... I am kind of new to AMD ocing and was wondering whta you meant by drive strength,,, I know the memory timiings may take a while but I was hoping to find some other EXPERT users with ballistix for a general starting point,,, thanks for the help so far ill let you know how it all goes tomorrow,,, and if i need anything else,
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If you have a floppy drive then that bios will be good to go...otherwise you will need to flash from CD initially... these are the two best methods, Winflash sometimes works but if your OS turns to custard then you will have to know how to do this.

A CD tool for the DFI nF4 MB is here (by TMod)

Some Genie settings that may or maynot work for you are:

Code:
DRAM Configuration Settings:
 
DRAM Frequency Set............................ - 200=RAM/FSB:01/01
Command Per Clock (CPC)....................... - Enable 
CAS Latency Control (Tcl)..................... - 3.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd)..................... - 3.0
Min RAS# active time (Tras)................... - 8.0
Row precharge time (Trp)...................... - 3.0
Row Cycle time (Trc).......................... - 10 Bus Clocks
Row refresh cyc time (Trfc)................... - 14 Bus Clocks
Row to Row delay (Trrd)....................... - 03 Bus Clocks
Write recovery time (Twr)..................... - 03 Bus Clocks
Write to Read delay (Twtr).................... - 02 Bus Clocks
Read to Write delay (Trwt).................... - 03 Bus Clocks
Refresh Period (Tref)......................... - 3120 Cycles
DRAM Bank Interleave.......................... - Enabled
 
DQS Skew Control.............................. - Auto
DQS Skew Value................................ - 0
DRAM Drive Strength........................... - Level 5
DRAM Data Drive Strength...................... - Level 2
Max Async Latency............................. - 10.0ns
DRAM Response Time............................ - Fast
Read Preamble Time............................ - 6.5ns
IdleCycle Limit............................... - 256 Cycles
Dynamic Counter............................... - Disable
R/W Queue Bypass.............................. - 08 x
Bypass Max.................................... - 04 x
32 Byte Granularity........................... - Disable(4 Bursts)
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hey ncsa whats that burn thing for the 2 cores your talking about (sory dont mean to steal the thread)- ive scene that one of mine tends to be weaker then the other
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well I got it all hooked up and loaded up to bios ,,, I then tried to run a windows repair but after its done and i reboot I get a failure to load operating system message,,, I guess I ahve to go with a fresh install,,, oh well,,,

gonna take a little bit longer,,
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Yes a fresh install for this MB is a must ... and a good way to clean out those unwanted apps - etc...

The Burn-in is via a small app and applying it to the core in trouble... to be 'stable' on a dual-core both need to be able to run Prime or PI32m at the same time ....

I will try and get the info but will take a bit of time
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well I got the new bios in and running but i cant get my nvidia program and drivers to run in SLI mode or to see that I have SLI cards and bridge hooked up is it a bios setting?
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(For the record )

In BIOS there are three settings,

First GPU is set to PCIe - default is PCI

SLi Aperture : set to AUTO - default is disabled

In Genie : PCIe bus needs to be set to 8-4-n-8

Also have the GPU bridge with the LanParty words facing down or towards the back of the MB, that is with the letter L closets to the top GPU, if that made any sense.

Make sure that the chipset drivers are installed 6.70 is good and then retry the SLi operation. Check the SLi option box in the nVidia driver. - try drivers 81.95 seem to be good ones.
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