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Well, when I got my system I was under the impression the Intel was better then AMD, and I have been very happy with my system. An upgrade here or there, and it runs all the new games at or very close to max settings. However, games like NFS:MW and F.E.A.R. have started coming out, HDR and advanced physics are stressing my hardware so that I can run at max any more.

So, I have been saving and planning a new system. At first I was thinking AMD, what with every one on here saying "AMD is by far the best for gaming". But then I started thinking of what Intel has going for it, namely HT, 2 MBs of L2 cache and DDR2 support.

So, now I'm really confused. I do a lot on my computer, much more then just gaming. At any given time I will have 3-6 programs running, sometimes doing CPU intensive tasks. So, my question is this: For overall computing, gaming included, which is the better buy?

Just looking at the specs, an Intel 660 should be equal to an AMD 4000+ in ops-per-clock, but the Intel has 2 MB of cache to the AMDs 1. AMD, on the other hand, has 3DNOW! So, as I said, I'm really confused, and I guess I have started to ramble. Sorry.
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At this point it really starts to become an opnion to wether you want to go with Intel or AMD. AMDs really do optimize gaming and are leading. On the other hand Intel does have the upper hand with mutitasking. If it was my choice and i had the money i would go with a dual core Intel. After all as fast as thangs are moving now look at how fast HDR came. It will not be long before games start suseing both cores.Ultamitly i would wait till next year when the really hot Intel stuff comes out!
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Originally Posted by SoaDMTGguy
Well, when I got my system I was under the impression the Intel was better then AMD, and I have been very happy with my system. An upgrade here or there, and it runs all the new games at or very close to max settings. However, games like NFS:MW and F.E.A.R. have started coming out, HDR and advanced physics are stressing my hardware so that I can run at max any more.

So, I have been saving and planning a new system. At first I was thinking AMD, what with every one on here saying "AMD is by far the best for gaming". But then I started thinking of what Intel has going for it, namely HT, 2 MBs of L2 cache and DDR2 support.

So, now I'm really confused. I do a lot on my computer, much more then just gaming. At any given time I will have 3-6 programs running, sometimes doing CPU intensive tasks. So, my question is this: For overall computing, gaming included, which is the better buy?

Just looking at the specs, an Intel 660 should be equal to an AMD 4000+ in ops-per-clock, but the Intel has 2 MB of cache to the AMDs 1. AMD, on the other hand, has 3DNOW! So, as I said, I'm really confused, and I guess I have started to ramble. Sorry.
Current Gen AMD 64 cpu's are doing 9 ops per clock cycle which is 3 more than Intel pentium D as of right now. The overall consensus as of right now is that Intel is better for extremely cpu intensive activities such as cd burning, dvd burning, video editing, and photo editing. This also depends on which processors your comparing. In some cases AMD has the edge on this as well. when it comes to gaming, the AMD 64 bit processor dominates in gaming do to its low latency from its built in memory controller, as well as 9 operations per clock cycle.
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They are both great, PERIOD.
It's the components the system is comprised of that matter.
DDR2 is no flaming sucess and no smoking gun compared to DDR.
Premium quality RAM is a bigger factor than many relize. In your case for example... A faster RAM will improve games and memory dependant programs so when you build a new system regardless of AMD or Intel get good RAM.
    
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the AMD 64 bit processor dominates in gaming do to its low latency from its built in memory controller,
Not many people run 64bit, but later on it sure will not hurt.
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Not many people run 64bit, but later on it sure will not hurt.
I think you misunderstood that comment. A64 chips are faster then non a64 chips meaning regular old Athlons. A64 chips are what are put up against the Intels now.
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They are both great, PERIOD.
It's the components the system is comprised of that matter.
DDR2 is no flaming sucess and no smoking gun compared to DDR.
Premium quality RAM is a bigger factor than many relize. In your case for example... A faster RAM will improve games and memory dependant programs so when you build a new system regardless of AMD or Intel get good RAM.
So, are you saying DDR is better then DDR2? Or are you saying there both good, just get good RAM whether you get DDR or DDR2?
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Originally Posted by SoaDMTGguy
So, are you saying DDR is better then DDR2? Or are you saying there both good, just get good RAM whether you get DDR or DDR2?
Its sorta a wash, good ddr RAM with 2-2-2-5 timings will just about = ddr2 ram(which is double the speed) with say 4-4-4-12 timings. Correct me if I am wrong.

Either way, wait for AMD socket M2 to get the best of both worlds, AMD and DDR2, with a 333htt AMD x2 FX-60 may be 9x333=2.66GHz dual core. AMD's running in socket M2 also need DDR2 667 RAM to go along with that 333 htt.
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Its sorta a wash, good ddr RAM with 2-2-2-5 timings will just about = ddr2 ram(which is double the speed) with say 4-4-4-12 timings. Correct me if I am wrong.
So, how would DDR2667 4-4-4-8 compair to DDR400 2-2-2-5?
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I think you misunderstood that comment. A64 chips are faster then non a64 chips meaning regular old Athlons. A64 chips are what are put up against the Intels now.
OH i see. I would think that SoaDMTGguy was talking about the new A64 chips, so that why i thought he was talking about 64 bit stuff. Got it now.
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