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Hello fellow OC'ers! I'm Jim as you can tell and I'm on a quest to build myself an OC'ed AMD machine, primarily for gaming

For some background, this is what I currently have:
Intel Pentium 4 2.5GHz 533MHz FSB
1024MB DDR PC2700 (2 x 512MB's)
nVidia GeForce FX 5600 Ultra 128MB

Those are the main components that I highlight, and I want to upgrade my machine completely to an AMD platform, OC'ing of course

What I'm looking for is a nice board, SLI able for dual graphic cards, and a good CPU to overclock. By good CPU, I heard the AMD Athlon 64 4000+ was a great one to overclock. I'm not sure what speed in GHz I can obtain by OC'ing it, but I'm willing to take an extra step and get a better CPU fan in order to reach my goals.

So this is like a challenge? Perhaps, I would like to get the best out of a $1000 USD budget, overclocking included

The four main components I'm looking at are:
CPU
Motherboard
Memory
Video Card - Preffered 7800 GT 256MB

I'm open to all suggestions, basically I'm looking for a very nice gaming machine out of all of this.

If anyone can guide me to the right products to buy, I greatly appreciate your time and effort by helping me

Thanks in advanced to everyone,
Jim
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post #2 of 16
XFX 7800GT $299
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...ate=pricewatch

Socket 939 mobo with SLi (Biostar N4SLI-A9) $79
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ATT=13-138-253

CPU (A64 4000+) $325
http://www.manticoreinc.com/tech/pro...products_id=33

Memory (OCZ Gold Series 512MB PC4200 1x512MB) $56.25
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ATT=20-227-040

All prices including shipping.
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Although the memory is nice, it's not compatable with the board. Two of these 1 GB sticks would work though:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820223041
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post #4 of 16
You'll be able to get just as much of an OC out of a 3700+ as you can with a 4000+, so I would go with the 3700+ to save you some money.

Socket 939 Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego $234.00
DFI LanParty NF4 SLI-DR Motherboard $169.95
G.Skill 1GB (512MB x 2) 3200 GH Winbond UTT-BH5 $139.50
BIOSTAR Geforce 7800GTX 256MB $449.00

The DFI SLI-DR board is the best overclocking motherboard there is besides the SLI-DR Expert, which is more expensive and you'll be hard-pressed to find it in stock anywhere. Even though some of the reviews on Newegg are bad, it's because the users didn't know how to deal with the board's finnicky nature. Go on www.dfi-street.com to find out the correct way to do things and you'll be blazing some fast benchmarks. The G.Skill RAM has Winbond UTT-BH5 chips, which can give you a hell of an OC (average OC is DDR520 2-2-2-5 @ 3.5 volts), and since there was a little extra cash left over, I threw in the 7800GTX instead of the 7800GT.
That leaves you with $7.55, which you can put toward shipping. Cheers .
post #5 of 16
well if you want to OC you should get a DFI board. They will typically get you the best OC.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136166

for a cpu, get the 3700+. it will OC to the same speeds as the 4000+ and costs less
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103539
the Opteron 150 should OC quite nicely as well, and it starts at 2.4Ghz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103593

Since you are planning on OCing your rig you want good RAM. The DFI expert board, while able to push a high vdimm is optimized for TCCD RAM, so TCCD it is. here are some options
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231014
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146890
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227208
if you want 2Gb, as more and more games require lots of RAM to run at high resolution (Battlefield 2 and Quake 4) you may want to think about running 2GB.
I highly suggest 2 of these, I have heard that they OC quite nicely
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227224
I have also heard good things about these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231032

As for a 7800GT I would suggest either an evga or xfx
I would say evga over xfx because they have a warranty that covers overclocking and 3rd party cooling. Also, evga has an awsome step up program
both of these evga cards have a copper heatsink instead of the aluminum that most 7800GT's have.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130256
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130249

I hope this helps.
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post #6 of 16
Yeah I would agree with zero, save yourself some money and get the 3700 +
Newegg has some good deals on the 7800 GT's as well. I think I saw the XFX for 279 after rebate.
With the money you save you can pick up a XP 90 for less than $30 at SVC.com
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150124
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103539
http://svc.com/xp-90-21.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813123246
(I'm now partial to EPOX but the DFI boards are outstanding as well)
Good luck!
post #7 of 16
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Thanks you guys so far, a lot of insightful information has come out of it

It seems like the 3700+ CPU is a winner.

The DFI board, from reading more and more about it, seems to be the good board to base SLI and OC off of. Of the two boards, what's the difference between the expert and non expert? They seem to have similar specs, what's the major difference?

I'm liking what I see so far

BTW, are there any advantages in getting 64bit Windows over the 32bit for gaming? Someone told me 64bit was better for gaming, what do you guys think?
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BTW, are there any advantages in getting 64bit Windows over the 32bit for gaming? Someone told me 64bit was better for gaming, what do you guys think?[/quote] There really arent any advantages yet since the games are still made for x86 version.
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post #9 of 16
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Oh alright, sounds good to me.

Now onto the net question, the 3700 vs 4000, is the only difference 2.2 to 2.4GHz? What is the max that I could OC the 3700 to, GHz wise, with a probably better heat sink fan? What about the 4000 with the same scenerio?
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post #10 of 16
The Expert does a lot of things through software that you have to do with jumpers on the non-Expert. That's the major difference. Some other minor changes are that there is more space in between the 2 PCI Express slots so you'll have more airflow around your graphics cards and "type-in" HTT, but I don't think that necessitates an extra $30.
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