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post #1031 of 1595
Hi,
I am planning to build my first AMD system using the X4 630 CPU. I have acquired one with the code CACYC AC 1025APMW. That suggest it has an L3 cache and possibly be unlocked. I have yet to buy the motherboard so i haven't try it yet. Have there been any one with the above code that has successfully unlock the L3. I thought Denub were on the earlier build so I'm surprise to find one manufactured on the 25 week of 2010. Also, can I unlock the L3 using a motherboard with the AMD 8xx chip set. Apparently AMD remove the ACC ability on the 800 series.

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Hi,
I am planning to build my first AMD system using the X4 630 CPU. I have acquired one with the code CACYC AC 1025APMW. That suggest it has an L3 cache and possibly be unlocked. I have yet to buy the motherboard so i haven't try it yet. Have there been any one with the above code that has successfully unlock the L3. I thought Denub were on the earlier build so I'm surprise to find one manufactured on the 25 week of 2010. Also, can I unlock the L3 using a motherboard with the AMD 8xx chip set. Apparently AMD remove the ACC ability on the 800 series.

Thanks
Its very VERY doubtful yours will unlock. Only the very FIRST chips released could do an unlock of the L3 cache. Once they started actually producing REAL Propus cores, the L3 cache was completely cut out of the die. So you've got probably a 1/100 chance of unlocking it.

I believe ACC is supported in the newer boards still. Not sure on that one. I know SB710 and 750 both support it. Not sure about SB850 though.
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i coulda swore i seen a CPUz screenshot of a Propus with unlocked L3 somewhere on here before oh well

anyways i got a 630 i can get to 35 with the stock 1.344v. pretty happy with that. i'm gonna shoot for 38 when i get learn to really OC. all i did for that 35 was change the ref clock to 250 and use auto settings
    
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i coulda swore i seen a CPUz screenshot of a Propus with unlocked L3 somewhere on here before oh well

anyways i got a 630 i can get to 35 with the stock 1.344v. pretty happy with that. i'm gonna shoot for 38 when i get learn to really OC. all i did for that 35 was change the ref clock to 250 and use auto settings
It's REALLY difficult to pass 3.5GHz. It can be done though. A trick, if your board can do a high reference clock.....try to use the 13.5x multi. My chip seems to scale better on that one over 14x.
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i coulda swore i seen a CPUz screenshot of a Propus with unlocked L3 somewhere on here before oh well

anyways i got a 630 i can get to 35 with the stock 1.344v. pretty happy with that. i'm gonna shoot for 38 when i get learn to really OC. all i did for that 35 was change the ref clock to 250 and use auto settings
If you are reffering to the unlocked chips on CPU-z the chip name remains propus but shows the L3 cache.
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If you are reffering to the unlocked chips on CPU-z the chip name remains propus but shows the L3 cache.
but in theory if it was a Propus to start off with there would be no hidden L3 and would not be unlocked as opposed to a Deneb which would have it hidden?

now i wonder if the Rana code in CPUz changes to Propus when it's unlocked? hmm
    
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post #1037 of 1595
Got my Athlon II 630 CPU delivered today, and turns out it has the xxCxx code for a Deneb core and 2008 production date on the CPU.

Hopefully it's one of an old batch with the L3 in place, but I won't be able to find out until my motherboard and ram arrive tomorrow.
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So, what would be the maximum safe voltage for a 24/7 overclock on one of these? I have a C2 635. I think 1.425 is the max spec on the AMD site, or at least for the 630 it is(can't find the 635), but I don't know what they can actually take.

I can't get 3.5GHz anywhere close to stable at 1.425. Tried doing it with the multi at 14.5 and 14...no luck either way. Could it be my RAM timings? I've dropped the RAM multi back a notch, but the timings are still at 7-8-7.

edit: Also, what is stock voltage on a 635? I can't find it anywhere, but my mobo defaults to 1.4...
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I believe ACC is supported in the newer boards still. Not sure on that one. I know SB710 and 750 both support it. Not sure about SB850 though.
Nope, one of the reasons they made the 8xx chipset in the first place was to remove ACC. Most good boards have some other method of unlocking, though...often simpler than ACC.
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So, what would be the maximum safe voltage for a 24/7 overclock on one of these? I have a C2 635. I think 1.425 is the max spec on the AMD site, or at least for the 630 it is(can't find the 635), but I don't know what they can actually take.

I can't get 3.5GHz anywhere close to stable at 1.425. Tried doing it with the multi at 14.5 and 14...no luck either way. Could it be my RAM timings? I've dropped the RAM multi back a notch, but the timings are still at 7-8-7.

edit: Also, what is stock voltage on a 635? I can't find it anywhere, but my mobo defaults to 1.4...

Nope, one of the reasons they made the 8xx chipset in the first place was to remove ACC. Most good boards have some other method of unlocking, though...often simpler than ACC.
With my 635, 3.5 is easy. Just 1 notch increase at the voltage with 242 fsb @ 14.4 multiplier. At 3625, I just raised my voltage by 3 from stock, it's stable even with CnQ enabled.
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Thanks

My mobo defaults to 1.4v...is that stock? Assuming your board is like mine and goes in .025 increments, that'd be 1.475 for the OC? Safe?

edit: Also, is there any difference in the stock voltage between C2 and C3? Most 635's appear to be C3, so stuff like this is hard to dig up...
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