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I'm OCing at voltages less than stock, so not much added heat here.

My Cooler Master Hyper 212+ was $20. If I bought another higher-end CPU, I would have bought an aftermarket cooler regardless if I was OCing or not.
This isn't true. The Phenom II stock cooler is better than the Athlon II stock cooler I believe.

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Originally Posted by Horsemama1956 View Post
My cooler was only 30 bucks, and the CPU 119 on sale. Also I don't believe L3 cache would be better then even 2-300 Mhz overclock. Mine is currently 900 over stock..

Honestly I barely spent any time overclocking. Now that it's done, I don't touch it, or even bench(unless in game).

I'll probably get an X6(the main reason I bought the Athlon in the first place) and another 5770+board(sell old one) and be done with any purchasing/tweaking for a long while.
You could have taken the $120 you spent on the 635, plus the $30 on HSF, had $155, and bought a Phenom II X4 945.

The proof is in the pudding, look here:







Phenom wins out in games because of L3. However, as we all know, framerate differences tend to drop off as higher resolution place the GPU at the bottleneck. However, I'm still not sure an overclocked Athlon II is going offer that much more performance than just a stock Phenom II.

Oh well, guess it isn't worth debating since I've already bought it lol...

What's the maximum safe temp and voltage on these chips?

My 635 is at stock voltage, reading 1.264 in CPUZ right now. When priming, it maxes at 50-51C with voltage under load at 1.25. Stock cooling, stock TIM.

I have AS5 and Ceramique, but I'm not going to bother applying AS5 until I get a new HSF.
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This isn't true. The Phenom II stock cooler is better than the Athlon II stock cooler I believe.
You're a fortune teller?

The 945 was nearly twice the cost of my 620. Not to mention it probably eats more power at idle/load and runs hotter (bad for those summer days).
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post #813 of 1595
Just an update (new cooler to the CPU, so I finaly go higher!).

* CPU: Athlon II x4 630
* CPU stepping and mfg date: CADAC AD 0940
* Revision: BL-C2
* Clock speed: 3500.1Mhz
* FSB x Multi: 250 x14.0
* Vcore: 1.392
* RAM speed: DDR3 1333 @ 1333Mhz
* NB speed: 2000Mhz
* HT Link: 2000Mhz
* Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P
* Cooling method: Cooler Master Hyper TX3
* CPU-Z validation: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1096294
* OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64

2hrs of prime95 now - still 0 errors/warnings.

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So do you guys that are overclocking actually notice any difference in games/applications?

I used to be pretty crazy into the OC realm and would tweak for hours to get the best OC I could get on my sig rig, but now with my new system that powers through everything I throw at it, I'm just not sure if I see the benefit.

I have an Athlon II X4 635 at stock right now plus an HD5770 and it flies through BF:BC2 at 1920x1080, Maxed, 4xAA, 16xAF. It also runs through photoshop and AutoCAD without flinching. So I'm just curious for you guys putting additional stress and heat on your CPU, is it worth it?

I have always loved getting something for nothing (the idea of OC'ing), but wouldn't the $40 you might spend on a new HSF be better spent toward a Phenom II 955BE or something? I'm sure the additional L3 cache would help out a lot more than the 4-500Mhz you gain by OC'ing the Athlon II, right?
I guess it depends on how and what you use your PC for and most importantly what budget you had to build. The 620's overclock very well, you can gain at least 650mhz as a minimum and with a bit of work and cooling get up to around 800mhz-1ghz extra and as people have proven even more with more work. The Hyper + only cost an extra £20, so its still cheaper than an average phenom II. If you're into gaming and stuff then L3 cache is more important, but you won't really notice a difference using normal applications.

I took a few benchmarks using PerformanceTest 7.0 and there is a significant performance increase from stock to 3.4ghz. As you have stated with L3 cache the Phenom II is quicker on some tests, but fairly closely matched on others.

Just my views.....
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This isn't true. The Phenom II stock cooler is better than the Athlon II stock cooler I believe.



You could have taken the $120 you spent on the 635, plus the $30 on HSF, had $155, and bought a Phenom II X4 945.

The proof is in the pudding, look here:







Phenom wins out in games because of L3. However, as we all know, framerate differences tend to drop off as higher resolution place the GPU at the bottleneck. However, I'm still not sure an overclocked Athlon II is going offer that much more performance than just a stock Phenom II.

Oh well, guess it isn't worth debating since I've already bought it lol...

What's the maximum safe temp and voltage on these chips?

My 635 is at stock voltage, reading 1.264 in CPUZ right now. When priming, it maxes at 50-51C with voltage under load at 1.25. Stock cooling, stock TIM.

I have AS5 and Ceramique, but I'm not going to bother applying AS5 until I get a new HSF.
In Canada at the time they were approaching 200. Not quite the same.

Also those graphs are fabulous but I never intended on playing my games at such low resolutions. I don't care if I could have gotten 50fps more a 800x600 low settings. It's not a concern for me.

Go look at some synthetic benchmarks. At 3.7 I get anywhere from 5k-5100 cpu score in 3dmark06. About 12k in Vantage. Not really any different then Phenoms. Gaming I could right around where the phenoms do as well.

I was planning on the X6 Phenoms when I bought this, so I didn't really care.

Of course phenoms are better. They are higher-end chips. But the real world difference is so marginal, if you're on a budget you won't be missing out on anything with the Athlon II(aside from Black Editions).
Edited by Horsemama1956 - 3/24/10 at 1:38pm
     
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* CPU: Athlon II x4 630
* Revision: BL-C2
* Clock speed: 3710Mhz
* FSB x Multi: 265 x14.0
* Vcore: 1.5
* RAM speed: DDR3 1600 @ 1060Mhz 6-6-6-15-20
* HT Link: 2120Mhz
* Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P
* Cooling method: Hyper 212+
* CPU-Z validation: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1097172
* OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Stable @ this OC although it is taking a lot of volts. Max temps @ full load are 45-46C. I am trying to get my RAM speed up and there is where my instability comes in. Any ideas? SiSandra test this OC @ faster than stock 965BE. May not be as good at gaming, but just as good at encoding, which is my primary purpose. 3.6 is highest i can go below 1.45v. Perhaps this is where my board is meeting its limitations. My ram is rated 1.5v by G-Skill, could i up the voltage safely to help increase speed?
post #817 of 1595
I just picked up an Athlon II x4 635.

Still need other parts to begin building my PC.
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Could someone assist me in overclocking a 630 Propus cpu? I have a Gigabyte UD2H mobo & with Mushkin DDR3-1600 ram. I'd appreciate any advice as to what settings I need to change in the mobo bios. Thanks in advance! I haven't used AMD in a long time.

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New here but I think I can join the club. lol

* CPU: Athlon II x4 630
* CPU stepping and mfg date: xxDxx Date: Not sure
* Revision: BL-C2
* Clock speed: 3808Mhz
* FSB x Multi: 272 x 14.0
* Vcore: 1.552
* NB speed: 2176Mhz
* HT Link: 2176Mhz
* Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA770TA-UD3P
* Cooling method: Hyper 212 Plus
* CPU-Z validation: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1106623
* OS: Windows 7 Home Premium
* Idle temp: 30C
* Load temp: 43C




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mine has a 280 fbs limit. it wont post for anything higher no matter the voltage. im stuck at 275 and x13 @ 1.575V, and its not even stable. mines such a voltage sucker...
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