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I went over to my friends house today and he was having trouble with his computer. He would boot up that the winows boot screen would pass. Then it would come up with a black screen for like 20 seconds. After that another black screen with little dots would shot up on the moniter around the perimeter of the veiwable area (LDC) and after 10 seconds of that the computer wouldn't do anything. This is where it gets wierd, after 10 times of rebooting and this repeating it booted once like normal. BF2 ran good, and there were no stability issues. Then, he powers it down again, and the next day when he booted it back up the dot thing came back up again. I then proceded to help him, so we opened his case. IT WAS LITERALLY A JUNGLE of wires, i almost fainted at the site of this as I do not know how there was ANY airflow at all. We reseated the graphics card, and rerouted all the wires. NOT TO mention he only had one case fan (where a side intake fan should be) blowing OUT. I immediately thought this was a temperature/overheating issue. One we put everything back together we booted up the computer. The screen went black however everything was getting power and all the fans were running etc. It did sound a little like the hard drive had to try more than once to boot, however NOTHING came on the screen.. not even the bios. I thought then that the 4 pin power plug was not connected but it turned out it was. We reseated the cpu AND the graphics card but still we cannot GET this thing to boot up. We then noticed that the lock for the gpu wasn't on and that the gpu might have not been fully in, so we pushed it all the way in and locked it in. Long story made short, the thing STILL won't show anything on the screen. The motherboard is making beeps and everything is plugged in. I think the problem is narrowed down the either the GPU or the CPU. Tomorrow I will bring my computer over there to see what the problem is, but now I feel guilty because i think i friend something in his computer by not seating the gpu correcty when the power was on (is that possible). We were NOT on carpet at all and I was wearing an anti-static wristband.

HIS PC SPECS ARE THE FOLLOWING: Intel 2.6 478, Asrock motherboard (forget name), 9800 pro, 120 gig hd, 2 case fans (we added one), 550w NEW powersuppy, floppy, cd-rw, dvd-rom.

Does anyone have any ideas on what could be wrong? NOTHING will show up on the screen and i'm 99.9% sure everything is plugged in. We were grounded the entire time and not near carpet. Also there was a vacuum near us. Can vacuums create static electricity? As he told me 3 days ago he used a vacuum to clean out his cpu heatsink.
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Ok, this may not be the best solution, but I'd do it.
Reset bios; unplug computer, take out mobo battery for 30min(just to be sure), but it back in and reset bios with jumper for a couple minutes. If you get same result then do this:
Completely take the computer apart; cpu, graphics, ram, mobo, hdd, everything. Check each part and make sure they look in perfect status and clean(dust, basically anything besides PCB). Check that the PSU is giving correct voltages. Without putting it back in the case, try to boot up with mobo, 1 ram stick, graphic card and cpu; see if you get bios. If it doesn't work, try with different ram sticks, and graphic card's if possible. If it still doesn't work, you might have a dead cpu/mobo. It look's like you have same cpu's; try switching cpu's in both computers, see of something changes.
Basically you should move cpu/ram/graphics between both computers, you should find something.

As I said, this may no be the best idea, but you will probably find the problem/solution.
post #3 of 7
I agree with DataX, but I add that you should clean all components with rubbing alcohol as well.

Wait.... I know that beep....
One computer beeped because of an overheated CPU. MAKE SURE the thermal paste is in good condition, the HSF is on proper, and the HSF fan is plugged in.
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yes however, how do i update the bios if the BIOS can't even come up? NOTHING will show one the moniter, just a black screen and a moniter signal that says "No signal: Power save mode"
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Originally Posted by Ares545
yes however, how do i update the bios if the BIOS can't even come up? NOTHING will show one the moniter, just a black screen and a moniter signal that says "No signal: Power save mode"
update? why? Just see if you can get it to boot, and see if you can find any damaged hardware. If it's not the mobo, there is no need for a bios update, just replace/repair the faulty hardware; however if it is the mobo, well then it's useless, cause it's already dead.
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if the motherboard is dead wouldn't that cut off power to all the usb components on the computer?
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Originally Posted by Ares545
if the motherboard is dead wouldn't that cut off power to all the usb components on the computer?
Well... I'm not sure about that one, but I suppose it's still possible for the mobo to provide power to the +5v of the usb ports even being dead, but that could as well just mean that the mobo's not dead, and that something else is messing the computer up.
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