Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › AMD/ATI › Difference in X700 Pro and X700 XT
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Difference in X700 Pro and X700 XT

post #1 of 5
Thread Starter 
Is the only real difference in the X700 Pro and X700 XT (aside from the latter not being made) the core and memory clock speeds: 425/432 for the X700 Pro and 475/525 for the X700 XT?

Thus, if one were to upgrade the cooling on the X700 Pro by installing a Zalman VF700-Cu and overclock to the XT settings, there would be no point at all in "flashing" the bios of card with an X700 XT bios, would there?

Thanks for the insight.
post #2 of 5
Welcome to the forums. Please take a few minutes to fill in your system specs by going to the User CP linked near the top left corner of every page.

I can't seem to find a link for the X700 XT including on ATIs product comparison, Newegg, and Pricewatch. Could you provide that so I can take a look at the specs? On some of their product lines such as the x800 series, the Pro models have fewer pipelines enabled than the XT models.

If there is not a difference other than clock speeds, it's up to you whether or not you want to flash. You can simply use ATI Tool/ATI Tray Tool everytime you want to overclock, or you could flash for a permanent overclock. The cooler you mentioned is a very good one.
Sig rig
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Q6600 G0 23A Asus P5K Deluxe Wifi HD 3870 2x2 GB G.Skill DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2x250 GB Seagate RAID 0 + 320 GB Seagate Samsung SATA DVD Windows XP Pro/Vista Ultimate 64 bit Viewsonic VA2012wb 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Eclipse Corsair HX620 Lian Li V2000b Logitech G7 
  hide details  
Reply
Sig rig
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Q6600 G0 23A Asus P5K Deluxe Wifi HD 3870 2x2 GB G.Skill DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2x250 GB Seagate RAID 0 + 320 GB Seagate Samsung SATA DVD Windows XP Pro/Vista Ultimate 64 bit Viewsonic VA2012wb 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Eclipse Corsair HX620 Lian Li V2000b Logitech G7 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 5
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the welcome, Taeric. I'll get around to updating the system specs (for shorts, I have a Dell Dimension 8400, 3.2Ghz (w/ HT), 1GB PC2-4200 DDR2, and an ATI Radeon X700 PRO w/ 256MB GDDR3 RAM).

Here are the system specs from a Beyond3d.com review of the RV410 core for the X700 Pro and the X700 XT:

Board Specifications:

Board Configuration Radeon X700 XT
Core Clock Rate 475MHz
Pixel Fill-rate 3.8G Pixels/sec
Texture Fill-rate 3.8G Textures/sec
Memory Speed 525MHz GDDR-3 (1.05GHz Effective)
Memory Bandwidth 16.8GB/sec
Frame Buffer Size 128MB

Board Configuration Radeon X700 PRO
Core Clock Rate 425MHz
Pixel Fill-rate 3400G Pixels/sec
Texture Fill-rate 3400G Textures/sec
Memory Speed 432MHz GDDR-3 (864MHz Effective)
Memory Bandwidth 13.8GB/sec
Frame Buffer Size 256MB

Right now, I'm running at about 450 MHz on the core and about 460 MHz on the memory, stable, using ATI Tool. I might can go higher, but I'm happy for the short term. With the Zalman VF700-Cu cooler (applied with a little Arctic Silver 5) installed, I have little doubt that I can get my X700 Pro up to and quite possibly beyond the X700 XT core and memory clocks, but I'm wondering if there are really any tangible benefits to flash the bios of the X700 Pro to an X700 XT aside from just using ATI Tool to overclock them. I know that flashing will not give me access to any "hidden pipes", since I'm already using all 8 that the X700 Pro can give me. After all the searching I've done, I can't find any reason to attempt a flash, since I should be able to reap all the benefits just by using ATI Tool to overclock my card.

Anyone have any different thoughts?
post #4 of 5
The only minimal benefits of flashing are 1) you don't have to run ATI Tool or ATI Tray Tool in order to overclock your card which relates to 2) there is no drain of system resources, however minimal, in running those programs when you want to overclock. Personally, I chose not to flash my card even though I can get a pretty decent overclock out of it. Honestly, I usually don't even bother with overclocking it, though I may when Oblivion comes out as that's supposed to have lots of eye candy in it.
Sig rig
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Q6600 G0 23A Asus P5K Deluxe Wifi HD 3870 2x2 GB G.Skill DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2x250 GB Seagate RAID 0 + 320 GB Seagate Samsung SATA DVD Windows XP Pro/Vista Ultimate 64 bit Viewsonic VA2012wb 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Eclipse Corsair HX620 Lian Li V2000b Logitech G7 
  hide details  
Reply
Sig rig
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Q6600 G0 23A Asus P5K Deluxe Wifi HD 3870 2x2 GB G.Skill DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2x250 GB Seagate RAID 0 + 320 GB Seagate Samsung SATA DVD Windows XP Pro/Vista Ultimate 64 bit Viewsonic VA2012wb 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Eclipse Corsair HX620 Lian Li V2000b Logitech G7 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 5
Your better off with the pro. The differences can easily be compensated by overclocking and this way your off with a 256mb instead of a 128.
Rig I might buy
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 ASUS P5K Premium Sapphire Radeon HD 3870x2 Kingston HyperX 4x1GB DDR2 1066 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
WD Rapor X 150gb 16MB 10Krpm Windows Vista Premium HP w2408h Logitech G15 
PowerCaseMouse
Rosewill RX950 950W Silent 135mm Antec P180b Logitech G5v2 
  hide details  
Reply
Rig I might buy
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 ASUS P5K Premium Sapphire Radeon HD 3870x2 Kingston HyperX 4x1GB DDR2 1066 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
WD Rapor X 150gb 16MB 10Krpm Windows Vista Premium HP w2408h Logitech G15 
PowerCaseMouse
Rosewill RX950 950W Silent 135mm Antec P180b Logitech G5v2 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD/ATI
Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › AMD/ATI › Difference in X700 Pro and X700 XT