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Thx patch. I understand the points vs number of submitted scores now. Makes sense.

I don't understand the multi GPU thing though.
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Just got like 7 points for an 6300 Pi 16 seconds!?????????????????????
And 5 for 98k dual 4850s???????
Two things are going on with multi GPU's.

1) hwbot changed so that each person is rewarded as an individual with only one set of global points for each bench. So the most global points with whatever hardware configuration you submit that scores highest will be the only global points you will earn as an individual for that specific benchmark, be it with 1, 2, 3 or four cards. Apparently, you can still earn more global points for your team using different hardware combinations....

2) Remember, you get scores based on who you are competing against. Multi-gpu setups are worth much less because the number of people who submit scores get exponentially fewer as you add more cards. A massive raw score still won't be worth much if only 10 other people submit scores with a particular quadfire configuration. Especially if you already have gained your top global point run as described above.

Example: My top single card 3Dmark06 score of 30531 is worth 36.7 global points for being the 22nd highest single card score overall out of thousands of entries. While my much higher score of 35634 with quadfire 4890's would only earn 3.2 global points for being 48th out of 443 submissions - and I didn't even get those points (that's why they're greyed out) because my single gpu score gave me a higher global point score as an individual. But they do count towards our team points.

Same concept applies to hardware points. But, unlike global points, all of your hardware points are applied to your individual score up to the maximum of 300.
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Two things are going on with multi GPU's.

1) hwbot changed so that each person is rewarded as an individual with only one set of global points for each bench. So the most global points with whatever hardware configuration you submit that scores highest will be the only global points you will earn as an individual for that specific benchmark, be it with 1, 2, 3 or four cards. Apparently, you can still earn more global points for your team using different hardware combinations....

2) Remember, you get scores based on who you are competing against. Multi-gpu setups are worth much less because the number of people who submit scores get exponentially fewer as you add more cards. A massive raw score still won't be worth much if only 10 other people submit scores with a particular quadfire configuration. Especially if you already have gained your top global point run as described above.

Example: My top single card 3Dmark06 score of 30531 is worth 36.7 global points for being the 22nd highest single card score overall out of thousands of entries. While my much higher score of 35634 with quadfire 4890's would only earn 3.2 global points for being 48th out of 443 submissions - and I didn't even get those points (that's why they're greyed out) because my single gpu score gave me a higher global point score as an individual. But they do count towards our team points.

Same concept applies to hardware points. But, unlike global points, all of your hardware points are applied to your individual score up to the maximum of 300.
This is a shame that you can only have 300 hardweare poitns add up towards your total, it looks like they want peopel to bench with the newest stuff for points instead of digging up older stuff.

The one thing I do like is that they now seperate the multiple GPU category in 2x (whatever card), and 3x and 4x if applicable. It gave me a free hardware medal for my GTX 275's that I got 25k with ways back when I first built this rig.

CL3P20: maybe a ram based challenge that factors in scores from wPrime, aquamark and that new test that they are trying to add into hwbot would be a good idea for a new contest. If no prizes we should atleast win someone to carry around at the bottom of our sigs... I would have loved a OCN Time Challenge trophy in my sig .

Voltage_drop: do you know when are where they are making the accouncement of the winners of that 700$?

Also on a side note since I got another 8800GTX in the mail and in the interim while I'm using your 8800GTX (voltage_drop) a temp card until I ship it out, at stock voltages and with stock cooling I managed to get the 2nd place 2x 8800GTX in vantage lol, not much competition in multiple GPUs for these cards: once I submit it I'll get 1.7 points if I'm lucky
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lol I just jumped from 88 points to 135 points. Eh whatever I guess.
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lol I just jumped from 88 points to 135 points. Eh whatever I guess.
Awesome job@
What are your links to hwbot compare link for your cards, also voltages and clocks for your cards, I'll add you to the list. (see OP for what is required if u have any questions)
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Awesome job@
What are your links to hwbot compare link for your cards, also voltages and clocks for your cards, I'll add you to the list. (see OP for what is required if u have any questions)
Will do but was waiting to get my new vidcard coolers in to see what I can really get out of them. Right now they get to toasty. Most of my points are from my 8800gts 320 card (which is also voltmodded) but Im gonna be throwing that on water hopefully this weekend and Ill see what I can really get it to before I retire it to folding.

I think I can get quiet a bit more with the 8800gts paired with my 9550 at 4.2ghz for some benches.
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Will do but was waiting to get my new vidcard coolers in to see what I can really get out of them. Right now they get to toasty. Most of my points are from my 8800gts 320 card (which is also voltmodded) but Im gonna be throwing that on water hopefully this weekend and Ill see what I can really get it to before I retire it to folding.

I think I can get quiet a bit more with the 8800gts paired with my 9550 at 4.2ghz for some benches.
that is something that I would like to see, the G80 runs hot even on default voltages on stock cooling.. water will really bring out her true colors!

keep us posted, 4.2ghz + gpu voltage is a recipe for success
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This is a shame that you can only have 300 hardweare poitns add up towards your total, it looks like they want peopel to bench with the newest stuff for points instead of digging up older stuff.

The one thing I do like is that they now seperate the multiple GPU category in 2x (whatever card), and 3x and 4x if applicable. It gave me a free hardware medal for my GTX 275's that I got 25k with ways back when I first built this rig.

CL3P20: maybe a ram based challenge that factors in scores from wPrime, aquamark and that new test that they are trying to add into hwbot would be a good idea for a new contest. If no prizes we should atleast win someone to carry around at the bottom of our sigs... I would have loved a OCN Time Challenge trophy in my sig .

Voltage_drop: do you know when are where they are making the accouncement of the winners of that 700$?

Also on a side note since I got another 8800GTX in the mail and in the interim while I'm using your 8800GTX (voltage_drop) a temp card until I ship it out, at stock voltages and with stock cooling I managed to get the 2nd place 2x 8800GTX in vantage lol, not much competition in multiple GPUs for these cards: once I submit it I'll get 1.7 points if I'm lucky
I think it supposed to be announced today sometime at the original thread:

http://www.overclock.net/overclock-n...00-prizes.html

Nice, I like to see that the 8800GTX is performing well, 2nd place, not to shabby considering the new rules at HWBot and all stock even

What kind of clocks did you obtain with it @stock, and how well did it compare to your other 8800GTX? Im surprised that the mail ran today but thats cool cause that means I can get it that much sooner, Im excited to push that sucker
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I think it supposed to be announced today sometime at the original thread:

http://www.overclock.net/overclock-n...00-prizes.html

Nice, I like to see that the 8800GTX is performing well, 2nd place, not to shabby considering the new rules at HWBot and all stock even

What kind of clocks did you obtain with it @stock, and how well did it compare to your other 8800GTX? Im surprised that the mail ran today but thats cool cause that means I can get it that much sooner, Im excited to push that sucker
I don't think the mail runs today because I haven't gotten anything. Not tomorrow either but it'll be in the mail headed ur way monday. At stock voltages it handles pitiful overclocks:

default clock: 576mhz
overclock in sli (lower potential than a single card): 630mhz stable
OCP mod on DICE: 850/875 mhz stable 900mhz tops

THe memory is a bit better,it handles 1030mhz stable from 900 stock, on dice I think I got it up to 1175 on default voltages.

A simple volt mod with decent on your CPU should yield the high 9s to 10k vantage points and top 10 for sure.
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I don't think the mail runs today because I haven't gotten anything. Not tomorrow either but it'll be in the mail headed ur way monday. At stock voltages it handles pitiful overclocks:

default clock: 576mhz
overclock in sli (lower potential than a single card): 630mhz stable
OCP mod on DICE: 850/875 mhz stable 900mhz tops

THe memory is a bit better,it handles 1030mhz stable from 900 stock, on dice I think I got it up to 1175 on default voltages.

A simple volt mod with decent on your CPU should yield the high 9s to 10k vantage points and top 10 for sure.
Oh I misunderstood what you were saying, I thought you said the stock cooler came today, my fault. Sounds good though, the mail should run tommorow though, have you received the adapters yet?
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Oh I misunderstood what you were saying, I thought you said the stock cooler came today, my fault. Sounds good though, the mail should run tommorow though, have you received the adapters yet?
Nope no stocked cooley yet, that should be tomorrow if they guy shipped on time and priority mail flat rate like he said he would. Hahasorry mental error on my end, I must have drank a lot last night/this morning because I though tomorrow of Sunday...

I'm making a few run throughs now with all the older 3d marks. I have enough of a score for 10 points in 03 so nowI just need to give 06 and 05 a try at 4.5ghz...
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