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How could AMD make any money if that were true?

Not trying to say you're wrong just curious.
Intel pays AMD a license fee for every x86-64 processor.
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Do you guys think that Fusion and Larabee will possibly be compatible? If Intel uses some ATI tech, maybe AMD's Fusion will also be supported? Intel controls most of the industry so AMD does not want to be left out if everyone goes Intel Larabee.
post #33 of 42
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How could AMD make any money if that were true?

Not trying to say you're wrong just curious.
It's the same as nVidia licensing SLI to mobo makers, pay a small fee per CPU/motherboard made.

If Larrabee becomes the norm, ATI/AMD can still compete because it's x86, so they *should* be able to make GPUs that can run that stuff.
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post #34 of 42
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It's the same as nVidia licensing SLI to mobo makers, pay a small fee per CPU/motherboard made.

If Larrabee becomes the norm, ATI/AMD can still compete because it's x86, so they *should* be able to make GPUs that can run that stuff.
Larrabee is quite different from Fusion. Larrabee has 48 x86 cores while Fusion is a CPU and a GPU on the same die package. Larrabee is essentially a hybrid.
 
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post #35 of 42
What if... Intel tries to suck up to AMD to keep them away from their biggest nemesis. IBM.
Just a random thought because i don't have access to the heads of the Ceo's of both company's. Most likely i suspect Intel to use ati patents to get Larabee of the ground assuming they want some return of the supposedly large amounts of cash they already poored into devolping it.
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post #36 of 42
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Originally Posted by bruestle2 View Post
Intel pays AMD a license fee for every x86-64 processor.
Oh really? I did not know that. Nice one +REP

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Larrabee is quite different from Fusion. Larrabee has 48 x86 cores while Fusion is a CPU and a GPU on the same die package. Larrabee is essentially a hybrid.
Not really. A hybrid would be a combination of both CPU and GPU in one. Larrabee is loads of in-order CPUs being used to render graphics. It's terrible for rasterization, but great for ray-tracing.
Edited by voice - 11/17/09 at 3:20pm
post #37 of 42
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Oh really? I did not know that. Nice one +REP
They don't actually pay a license fee. They have a cross-license agreement. Which means Intel shares their licenses to AMD in return for AMD licenses.
Edited by Shadow_UGZ - 11/17/09 at 3:06pm
 
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post #38 of 42
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They don't actually pay a license fee. The have a cross-license agreement. Which means they (Intel) share their licenses in return for the others (AMD) licenses.
So the Odyn was wrong after all.

thanks
post #39 of 42
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Not really. A hybrid would be a combination of both CPU and GPU in one. Larrabee is a loads of in-order CPUs being used to render graphics. It's terrible for rasterization, but great for ray-tracing.
Yeah that's true. What I meant is that Larabee emulates a GPU by using many x86 CPU cores while Fusion is physically a GPU and a CPU.
 
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post #40 of 42
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Larrabee is quite different from Fusion. Larrabee has 48 x86 cores while Fusion is a CPU and a GPU on the same die package. Larrabee is essentially a hybrid.
I know, but that's what I was meaning, ATI can make the x86 cores because they're owned by AMD and AMD has the x86 license whereas nVidia hasn't got one, so they'd have to let VIA make the chips or something.
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