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I listen to rap, thus my solutions are ghetto.

"Ghetto Solutions", has a very 'IT firm' ring to it. Me and A+N should go into business as that.
AHAHAHAHAA!!!

Omg I just burst out laughing at Cici's!!!
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post #32 of 61
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Can't you just accept that's it's much better to use wires?

You can also paint them the same color, since most likely they're solid color walls
So your adding painting into the cost of your solution?? Youre just making wireless look all the more attractive to the client right now. LOL

Its very subjective as to what is "better". It really does depend on the situation.

Wireless has become so acceptable and reliable that its even used in hospitals, clinics, government offices etc. I know. Ive put them there.

Usually there is a mix of both wired and wireless. Systems that need the absolute highest throughput possible use wired. All mobile devices (pdas, laptops that roll around on carts for ekg and other various medical purpose software, etc) use wireless.

We are not talking about this years lastest invention. Wireless has come a long way.

The 20 computers are not backing up hundreds of gigs of data. They arent accessing databases. They are probably just workstations which would be typical of such an environment. Even if they were accessing databases the wireless would do fine.

An example: I had a client that had about 8 computers in his office. When I came into the situation they already had wireless in place. The front office guy (farthest away from the wireless AP) was accessing a database to input customer information, billing, etc and that pulled down large contract files for updating and creating contracts for the sell of commercial property. He complained of intermittent disconnects and database hangups.

After investigation, I noticed that he had a pretty weak signal. I noticed that he was using a wireless usb device which was on the floor with the computer between the wireless device and the AP. I moved the wireless device to a higher position without the obstruction of the computer. I think I moved it up to his desk. And voila. No more issues ever and it ran faster than he had ever experienced before. After I made him aware of what was causing him problems he never ran into another issue. If he would have just had a power boosted model like this. He never would have seen any issues to begin with. But alas, I didnt install the system so I dont take any blame for it.

Im not saying it cant have issues but if done correctly it will no more issues than any wired network. You just have to watch out making noobish mistakes when setting up the wireless.

FYI: The client I referred to was using all linksys home type of equipment that doenst perform well enough for a commercial environment. Which is why I say avoid that stuff for commercial use unless you dont require high reliability. Some exceptions are nic cards. Some of the high end home wireless NICs do quite well.
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I listen to rap, thus my solutions are ghetto.

"Ghetto Solutions", has a very 'IT firm' ring to it. Me and A+N should go into business as that.
Agreed.
    
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In these hard times, I'd be willing to bet most fine institutions would realise the benefits of price and quality rather than aesthetic pleasure.
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In these hard times, I'd be willing to bet most fine institutions would realise the benefits of price and quality rather than aesthetic pleasure.
Here, they don't get either
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In these hard times, I'd be willing to bet most fine institutions would realise the benefits of price and quality rather than aesthetic pleasure.
... Please tell that to the thousands of "fine institutions" that are currently using wireless and couldnt otherwise function without it.

How do you boil down wireless to "aesthetic pleasure"? Its a viable and reliable technology just like wired networks.

You think wireless is for the fringe fanatics?

Have you ever heard of OFDM and canopy wireless? Entergy (a fortune 500 company power company) uses wireless to connect from their main offices to substations around New Orleans because the realized that while running fiber was the accepted solution to connecting the substations to the main office, using a wireless connection was not only just as reliable and secure(triple DES and AES), it was a helluva lot cheaper. The company I worked for saved them hundreds of thousands on the deal.

Ya... I installed all six. I also setup the wireless management system for their wireless canopy network. What a terrible institution entergy is...
    
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Cause we're sure these people need that need 20 computers hooked up are looking for something like that!

Are you Obama in disguise?
You missed the point and are twisting my words.

My point is that wireless is being used everywhere and for all types of environments. Even in environments that are most critical. i.e. your local power company.

No a school will likely not need canopy... A college could use one tho.

I didnt recommend such high end technology. Just entry level business class equipment.

With wireless, equipment is key. Its so blatently apparent youve never touched any business class wireless equipment. Save your reviews and opinions of wireless for home users. You have no credibility here.
    
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Its so blatently apparent youve never touched any business class wireless equipment. Save your reviews and opinions of wireless for home users. You have no credibility here.
So your suggestion is that a school should fork out a good deal of money on "business class wireless equipment" instead of slapping some CAT5 up in the place?

Regardless of the stability of high class wireless equipment, the simpler you keep something, the less problems you have. There is no need to overcomplicate this by introducing wireless where inexpensive CAT5 will work just fine.

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Have you ever heard of OFDM and canopy wireless? Entergy (a fortune 500 company power company) uses wireless to connect from their main offices to substations around New Orleans because the realized that while running fiber was the accepted solution to connecting the substations to the main office, using a wireless connection was not only just as reliable and secure(triple DES and AES), it was a helluva lot cheaper.
This is a school with 20 computers needing networking. This isn't a fortune 500 company.
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So your suggestion is that a school should fork out a good deal of money on "business class wireless equipment" instead of slapping some CAT5 up in the place?

Regardless of the stability of high class wireless equipment, the simpler you keep something, the less problems you have. There is no need to overcomplicate this by introducing wireless where inexpensive CAT5 will work just fine.



This is a school with 20 computers needing networking. This isn't a fortune 500 company.
Why are you talking in circles? Dropping cat5 is not "inexpensive". Unless your definition "inexpensive" is $150 a drop. Re-read my posts and read the last one. kthx.

"Slap some cable in"... I promise. They will recommend you to someone else.
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wow why all the hatred on wifi, give the guy some help. sorry i cant help much i dont know much on commercial wifi, thats why im going to college for it
    
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