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Originally Posted by ez12a View Post
if intaking from the rear creates a lot of noise, add a shroud in, so it appears like this:

case > shroud > fan > rad > fan

or fan > shroud > case > shroud > rad > fan

basically you cannot have a fan directly against the rear grille on the inside intaking air. Because the grille itself is raised it creates turbulence. I had a whistle sound on mine before i added a shroud in between. Now i get colder air and quiet operation.
Thanks I'll keep that in mind. I might go back to push pull. I'll have to think about it.
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Tell that to the gentleman who was asking for help because his pump was making funny noises he even posted a vid link for it. My reply #9656 got it cleared up. It is an issue. Probably more so than some people realize.

Also say you do have yours set up fittings at the top. As you said the air only has one place to be right? If there is a significant amount of air for expansion purposes then it's all trapped in the area of the fittings. That means that you don't even need to move the system to have air get into the return line. It's right there. Power fluctuates enough that all it would take is a large enough surge to make the system hiccup and there you have it, air reintroduced to the line.

Now what are the chances of this happening if the fittings are strictly in the down position in a vertical mounting? ZERO there is ZERO chance of the air getting introduced to the line. Even if you move your system, unless your cable management skills demand an upside down orientation which is pretty doubtful in itself.

What you consider over thinking, I consider solid planning. If I have a working plan to implement before I even mount one (I did) then I can avoid the issues altogether. Look in my sig My 932 YouTube link. System is 100% horizontal all the air is trapped at the top and no chance it gets back to the pump.

~Ceadder
I don't have a problem with how you are doing it, and why. Just stop insisting that there is a problem with having the tubes in the up position. The H50 does and will work as intended, in that position (period). If you don't believe me ask Corsair. They wouldn't say it unless they were absolutely positive that it does, and was designed to. And if for some reason it didn't, then it should be RMA'ed, cause it's broken. Your arguments are based on assumptions and not facts, so stop it!

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i might look at rotating the rad tonight.
As you wish, but really, it is unnecessary.
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There's more to the 180 than temps. So you got 1c difference. I have to ask but is that worth possibly shortening the lifespan of the pump? Cause that's what's really at stake. The air will eventually build up and block the flow or at least diminish it enough to make the pump overwork itself. Which will actually increase the temps. If you don't believe me then run your system without your side door and occasionally touch the pump housing. The heat that you feel will build up over time and increase temps.

But hey it's your system. How long have you had it and how long have you run it in that configuration?

~Ceadder
Im talking strictly about temps. You said that one can achieve lower temps but doing the 180 which was false when I tried it myself. So saying what you said was misleading.

I'll probably flip it back though if it will increase the lifespan of the pump. Where did you hear about this?
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Ok added a shroud and had to chop the rear grill because of said turbulence issues. Dropped 3c load with the shroud so it worked in the end.


Fan has to sit outside now because my scout is rather crammed!


My rig is much quieter without the fangrill, 72c after 20 passes of linX @4ghz. I am really liking this h-50 setup better than the normal P/P i had before.
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I apologize if you zero'ed in on ONE instance where I did not give both issues = coverage. But you can go throughout this thread and see where I have done so. In any case I'll make sure to cover my ass from now on so that way I will no longer mislead anyone. Wouldn't want people who don't look at all the information available to them to be mad @ me because they didn't get better temps with it orientated in a better way.

For those who ask how I know this? It's called APPLIED LOGIC and having experience with Radiators in the automotive field.

Now here is where the applied logic kicks in. Any system that displaces water builds up pressure when the water is heated.

Can I get an amen?

Pressure build up has to be displaced and accounted for in a closed loop system where you cannot add or subtract the liquid. This is where air comes in. The air inside heats up along with the water creating condensation inside the Rad.

Can I get an amen?

We know that air rises because it's lighter than water. If you have any questions on this fill a bottle with liquid up to it's neck apply cap and invert said bottle. What happened to the air? It went up, did it not?

Sorry I think this too deserves an amen how bout you all?

However water pumps are fragile things. If they dry out they go *poof*.

Can this brotha get another amen?

Now when you apply these four rules what do we learn? We learn that we must keep the pump submersed in liquid for them to stay running. That when air is introduced to the pump it does what if no liquid follows? It dries out. Right? So, I'm no genius and never claimed to be but by this very logic is it not better to run the fittings as far away from air as possible? Is that not in the south orientation instead of the north?

I don't mind being held accountable for what I say. However, this is not an instance where I never said anything about either issue and then just came on espoused my opinion on the matter and then left people to fend for themselves. I've stated both as clearly and concisely as possible.

Now I don't want anyone to take the above the wrong way. This is not to ridicule or vent on another poster. I'm just pointing out that I should probably do a better job of giving information and advice.

Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I'll make certain not to err like that again.

~Ceadder



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I don't have a problem with how you are doing it, and why. Just stop insisting that there is a problem with having the tubes in the up position. The H50 does and will work as intended, in that position (period). If you don't believe me ask Corsair. They wouldn't say it unless they were absolutely positive that it does, and was designed to. And if for some reason it didn't, then it should be RMA'ed, cause it's broken. Your arguments are based on assumptions and not facts, so stop it!



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My temps were the exact same when I had it 180... So yeah...

Idle temps went up a bit when closing my case up... I wanna be cooler like everyone else
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My temps were the exact same when I had it 180... So yeah...

Idle temps went up a bit when closing my case up... I wanna be cooler like everyone else
Did you try push/pull as in Exhaust: Fan > Shroud > Rad > Fan ?

Could you also get a hold of other fans for testings?
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Did you try push/pull as in Exhaust: Fan > Shroud > Rad > Fan ?

Could you also get a hold of other fans for testings?
I could try exhaust but that would then leave me with only one bottom intake... I only have 3 120mm fans... 2 are identical 90CFM fans and the other is my Ultra Kaze I am using as a lower intake.

Unless I turn one top 140mm into and intake?

I do not have a shroud nor know which/what size to get.
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Ceadderman: Since you didn't understand the gist of my posts let me make a little more blunt...
Assumptions, if valid (but mostly invalid) are not equal to proof.
Stop jumping to conclusions without proof.

ie. Put up or shut-up.
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Ok added a shroud and had to chop the rear grill because of said turbulence issues. Dropped 3c load with the shroud so it worked in the end.

Fan has to sit outside now because my scout is rather crammed!

My rig is much quieter without the fangrill, 72c after 20 passes of linX @4ghz. I am really liking this h-50 setup better than the normal P/P i had before.
Very nice. I love shrouds


looser101 & Ceadderman, you both have valid points. Now, settle down, the both of you
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