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I just did a quick 5 minute prime 95 test to check it, I have it in the back of my case where the exhaust fan used to be, but I have a huge 240mm fan on the top of the case
If your keeping it at the back of the case where the exhaust fan use to be then it should remain as exhaust. I tried the intake vs exhaust of mine at the back of my case also while I didn't get higher temps for my CPU I did get higher temps for everything else in my case thanks to messing up the air flow in the case. I don't know exactly how your case holds the fans in the front of your case it may be easier for you to mount it in the front than it was for me. Because I didn't want to use zip ties I made custom brackets for mine to fit up there.
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Hmmm. K. So I have my HAF922, my KM2 is mounted to the back of the case and is attached to the rad as INTAKE. I understand p/p is better and exhaust seems to be the favorite. So, reccomend me a fan, really prefer under 20 shipped, to add to it for p/p, and please tlel me which one to push and which to pull. Once that's setup, what would a typical load temp be for a 920 OC'ed to 4.0 with this setup? My ambients are usually about 78f, case has 200mm front intake, then the top and side 200's are exhaust, all CM Megaflows. I have a pretty basic 120 I found to be extra on the bottom of the case as exhaust since I have it raised about a half inch off the ground and I didn't have to buy it.
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Nope. The reason for this is pretty simple. Holding my Rad horizontal and up above the pump no air could travel down into the pump. When I mounted the Rad I had the case on its side and the fittings were on the west side of the map. Then when I raised it all the air got trapped on the north side of the horizontal plane where it has sat since I had to disconnect the pump from the MoBo to RMA the latter.

For all intents and purposes my Push/Pull setup is done. Just waiting on my 4th toggle bolt to come back so I can lock it in.

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When you lapped your pump and started it for the first time did you hear any air going through your pump?
 
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Look dude, I'm NOT saying that there is a temp benefit. I'm saying that it's a pump LIFESPAN benefit. Air sucked into a liquid pump is NOT good.

There was no need for the tude. I didn't even mention a temp benefit. But let's revisit this shall we? It's been stated here in this thread that it's a 1c degree benefit to having them up.

So now the issue is to find out where you can shave that same 1c elsewhere.

I imagine that a Push/Pull setup would do that. Don't you?

Now we're at whether to intake or exhaust. For me I'm exhausting. But I have the ability to do this because my case allows for a spare 120mm fan to mate with the 230mm fan mounted to its ceiling.

Hmmm now where else can I shave some temps?

How about my lapped CPU and H50? Yeah I think that works too.

W/O the Push/Pull setup I was already running -14c from the stock AMD cooler in the Lapped Exhaust setup. At the time I was running one fan paired to the Rad in exhaust I was seeing 34c @ idle. I'd be willing to bet that I see a 4-6c drop in temps when I get everything back together.

So you know what you can do with the attitude right? Parting of cheeks and putting it where the sun don't shine come to mind here. Cause you have no proof to the contrary. But I can show logically how it's not a benefit to run it fittings to the north.

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No. He just keeps insisting it's a problem even though he has not tested or proved such a statement. Why some people feel like making claims with absolutely no foundation I will never know. Making such claims is a disservice to this community, but he insists on making them anyway. I guess he is smarter than Corsair or the H50s designer(s).
 
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Look dude, I'm NOT saying that there is a temp benefit. I'm saying that it's a pump LIFESPAN benefit. Air sucked into a liquid pump is NOT good.

There was no need for the tude. I didn't even mention a temp benefit. But let's revisit this shall we? It's been stated here in this thread that it's a 1c degree benefit to having them up.

So now the issue is to find out where you can shave that same 1c elsewhere.

I imagine that a Push/Pull setup would do that. Don't you?

Now we're at whether to intake or exhaust. For me I'm exhausting. But I have the ability to do this because my case allows for a spare 120mm fan to mate with the 230mm fan mounted to its ceiling.



Hmmm now where else can I shave some temps?

How about my lapped CPU and H50? Yeah I think that works too.

W/O the Push/Pull setup I was already running -14c from the stock AMD cooler in the Lapped Exhaust setup. At the time I was running one fan paired to the Rad in exhaust I was seeing 34c @ idle. I'd be willing to bet that I see a 4-6c drop in temps when I get everything back together.

So you know what you can do with the attitude right? Parting of cheeks and putting it where the sun don't shine come to mind here. Cause you have no proof to the contrary. But I can show logically how it's not a benefit to run it fittings to the north.

~Ceadder
Annoying thing is that I have found since I went with my drive bay mod as push/pull Intake, when it gets hotter here (which it has) temps rise quickly because ofc its only going to be as good as the ambient, starting to wonder wether I should try out an exhaust setup again with my new fans etc.
Where have you mounted yours ceadder ? At the top as exhaust ? not sure wether I would have the room with 2x 25mm shrouds and 2x 38mm fans.
Or I guess I could invest in a new AC unit!
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Mine is set up in the first two 5.25 bays. Leaving the bottom 4 available to use if I use full size devices and the upper 2 are still usable as fan controller or media device bays.

As you can see, the system is together but not under power.


A snug fit.


Better shot of the clearance issue...



If I didn't have fan silencers setup case/sil/fan/sil/rad this would almost be impossible. Since I have maybe a 16th of an inch clearance between the 230 and the Rad where the fittings are.

I figure that I'm going to leave it in exhaust unless I have an ambient temp spike that's insane. It's early yet. I'll know more come August as to how much of a Temp spike we have around here. If I were living in the Zona then I would probably have it sitting under the AC throughout the Summer and make it an intake.

You'll have the room but be prepared to lose at least one more bay than I did. At least. You're looking @ 128mm of depth. You'll easily clear the 230mm with your setup and won't have a need for the siliencers. They do work pretty well for sealing the airways to concentrate the flow better though.

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Annoying thing is that I have found since I went with my drive bay mod as push/pull Intake, when it gets hotter here (which it has) temps rise quickly because ofc its only going to be as good as the ambient, starting to wonder wether I should try out an exhaust setup again with my new fans etc.
Where have you mounted yours ceadder ? At the top as exhaust ? not sure wether I would have the room with 2x 25mm shrouds and 2x 38mm fans.
Or I guess I could infest in a new AC unit!

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Hey guys, i was wondering if it was bad that I mounted my h50 rad with the tubes on the bottom instead of the top. Will I lose any performance/degrade the life of my cooler?
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Nope. You shouldn't degrade the life of your cooler by mounting the fittings down. You may lose a 1c or so of temp by doing this however.

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Hey guys, i was wondering if it was bad that I mounted my h50 rad with the tubes on the bottom instead of the top. Will I lose any performance/degrade the life of my cooler?
 
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So no reccomendations on a second fan to partner with my KM2 for push/pull and which one should push and which to pull?
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So no reccomendations on a second fan to partner with my KM2 for push/pull and which one should push and which to pull?
Usually you stick with the same fans for push/pull (same cfm & sp). Heres's mine, mounted on top push/pull with GT AP-15. Can't test it yet.. still waiting for RAMs.





Any suggestions/recommendations please let me know. Also I know I have my rear as an intake to help bring in some fresh air for the rad uptop.
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