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Well part of the problem was the steel insert @ lower right quadrant worked itself out and had contacted the case and wore through my paint. Don't know if it was contributing to my destabilization issues but it wasn't mounted correctly there.

Now that I changed the iplastic bosses over the mounting went much smoother.

~Ceadder
I had no trouble using the whole setup intended for the AM3 except for the doubled sided tape. There was no reason to use that at all. Mine held itself in place by itself but just for precaution I used some electrical tape to hold it for certain till I got it all screwed in place.

Have had no trouble with it being too tight or loose or anything actually went together the first time and haven't touched the pump since. Only thing that I changes was adding fans/shrouds and the location of them.
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Yeah, used all the AM3 mounting components and followed the directions every step of the way. Not a single issue except the skill needed to insert, turn and lock the pump in place without smearing your thermal compound.

Oh...take note of the pump after you remove it from the CPU, specifically the thermal compound left on the copper plate. The "square" of compound leftover isn't in the square area of the plate, it will be off-center and most likely covering one of the screw holes for that copper plate. When the pump is at exactly 12 o'clock, based off of the hoses and Corsair logo, the square CPU area of the copper plate is actually at like 11 o'clock, if that makes sense. When I get around to upgrading my thermal compound, I'll try to get a picture of this. Due to this pump/plate design, and the mounting bracket, I am so far unable to center the square area of the copper plate on the CPU. Turning the pump one notch, overshoots my goal...so the exact center I'm needing is between tabs/notches on that mounting bracket. Terrible design flaw.
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No offense meant so please take this with a grain of salt.

How the hell do you know what I'm dealing with here if you didn't use the suplied tape or at least thinner mounting tape.

I used both. The supplied tape was way too thick.

Being that I want to combat vibration I applied 1/8 inch Scotch brand mounting tape.

I have found that in BOTH instances that you could not mount the H50 as instructed. It put way too much pressure on the CPU and my system would not make it past DRAM in Post Process with the thick stuff on. With the thin stuff I had to manipulate the mounting screws enough to get it to Post. Cause there is no way on God's green earth that 2 MoBos' are going to have DRAM issues(which is what I thought I had) especially when I RMA'ed the 1st one and the replacement Board started doing the exact same things. So I had to go back and look at what had changed. I was running the stock cooler and it worked fine. Temps were a little high but that's due to it being a stock cooler. The H50 was the only thing that I can change (can't unlapp my CPU) but I've noticed that even though I am now back up and running, soon as I position my system upright I start having issues again. Right back to not Posting.

It's extremely frustrating cause I have crap to do. Instead I'm stuck here working on a system that for all intents and purposes runs fine. I fired it up this morning and the Graffix weren't stable the temps starting jumping up like I had a bonfire under it, and had to shut it down. Now I'm running between 34c and 36c but I doubt that lasts for long cause it looks like I may yet again have to reseat this thing and it's pissing me off.

But comparing what you did to what I'm going through doesn't cut it with me cause you used electrical tape. And unless they started making ET thicker than a C hair, you won't understand what I'm saying. The plastic AM3 bosses are crap. They aren't worth the electricity to make let alone recycle. I couldn't even get the kit to do what Jeff @ Corsair showed how to do. The only way I could mount the friggin thing was to put the ring ON the pump and then go at it with each screw, all while being completely married to the CPU. There was not one bit of play in the mounting.

Now I realize that you got it to work by dropping the tape entirely, but I really couldn't do that as my lower two mounting points are covered by my MoBo tray.

Understand NOW why I'm not happy? I'm OCD and if it won't work as advertised I'll get it to work but I will not be happy about what I had to go through to get it to work.

This cost me money I should not have had to pay. I doubt that if I did have Corsair in the same room that they could have diagnosed my problems. Hell Newegg RMA'ed my MoBo without a sencond thought and this was AFTER I had told them that I just mounted my H50.

Thanks for the input I don't mean to come off as unappreciative. Just a bit frazzled and peeved about what's going on with my system.

~Ceadder

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I had no trouble using the whole setup intended for the AM3 except for the doubled sided tape. There was no reason to use that at all. Mine held itself in place by itself but just for precaution I used some electrical tape to hold it for certain till I got it all screwed in place.

Have had no trouble with it being too tight or loose or anything actually went together the first time and haven't touched the pump since. Only thing that I changes was adding fans/shrouds and the location of them.
 
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Is it possible that those plastic bosses aren't sitting right with the back plate or the metal threaded inserts in that backplate? Or that maybe one of the two aren't sitting in the MB holes? We may not have the same boards, but AM3 is AM3, so there shouldn't be a difference...may just be a flawed part in your Corsair mounting supplies, or something just isn't sitting right with something else.
 
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Well my lower backplate bosses were working themselves out. But I think that was due to the AM3 lockring bosses being crap. I had to hold the Pump pretty tight to the CPU to get ONE screw started. Then like changing a tire I went to the opposite screw and did the same thing. All with the pump in the ring.

They show in the Vid where you don't start the screws but just a bit to aid in finding the steel bosses and seat the ring. Not on my best day could I do that with either boss set. Finally I changed the Intel Bosses into the Ring and started the screws til they were clear of the plastic. I then threaded each one into the inserts about a quarter turn or so. After that I could mount my Pump w/o forcing the thing on.

However, I'm STILL sitting on my Netbook at this time because the damn thing started failing my input devices and while it will post laying on its side it won't post standing up. I'm pretty peeved and about ready to say screw this PoS. The only good thing that is coming of this is I know what Core controls what, from my CPU. Upper Right Quadrant is RAM, Lower Left Quadrant is GPU, Upper Left is Drives and Lower Right is Input Devices.

I know this because my MoBo is the Bomb with it's Post Sequence LED feature and MANY hours of trying to get this nuckinfutty PoS to work.

~Ceadder

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Is it possible that those plastic bosses aren't sitting right with the back plate or the metal threaded inserts in that backplate? Or that maybe one of the two aren't sitting in the MB holes? We may not have the same boards, but AM3 is AM3, so there shouldn't be a difference...may just be a flawed part in your Corsair mounting supplies, or something just isn't sitting right with something else.
 
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That's weird how pressure to the heat spreader of the CPU is causing those problems. I've really torqued down on heatsinks and waterblocks in my day, and never had that problem. I'm honestly at a loss for words.

Hopefully you can get that sorted out pretty quick. I'm having some issues on my build currently. My idle temp is around 33-35c with an ambient of 82f...using Zalman STG-1, H50 with rad on rear of case(pull / case / rad / shroud / push), mesh cut from top/rear/front-lower fan areas, all R4 120mm fans. What's likely hurting me is my high ambient temp. It's seriously 20f hotter in this room than it is outside right now. This is because...

1. This room is top floor of house. It stays pretty hot upstairs during the summer, day or night. I'm also right above the laundry room and water heater.

2. I have an incubator keeping some snake eggs at about 85f for the next 5-6 weeks.

3. This PC puts off heat.

So even though the central A/C is on, I've got three sources of heat in this room. I may just toss some cash at a decent window a/c unit, that'd solve the problem real quick.
 
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If I lived in Misery..er um Missouri, I would have one in each window.

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I may just toss some cash at a decent window a/c unit, that'd solve the problem real quick.
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I may FINALLY have things sorted out. The mounting is still crap. Please do not mistake that. I used the correct bosses(single hole bosses) as identified by the Corsair literature. Finally after breaking my neck twice trying to get the damn thing mounted I changed them out to the double boss units and set the clips to the inside as the AM3 bosses are set. Got that worked out.

Well after about turning myself bald, I decided to try reapplication of TIM and reseat of H50. This time the entire surface got a good liberal application of X23. From the way it's acting now I'd say that Pressure as well as Heat was responsible for my issues as the TIM I had on the CPU while reasonable did not cover the entire surface. This time I applied and pulled the Pump to see how my TIM looked. It was still a bit shy of reasonable so I applied a tad more to the areas that weren't covered, applied and when I picked it up it was much better. I actually feel it's safe enough that I'm currently downloading Catalyst Driver 10.5. I think that I have 10.6 on my XP drive and it's artifacting my CPUID monitor when I go to drag it across the screen to move it out of my way. We'll see if it works. Earlier I didn't dare DL anything as it just blasted my system. Now I'm running 33c-38c temps Min/Max. This morning I was at 49c having just fired up and it definitely was NOT stable.

~Ceadder




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That's weird how pressure to the heat spreader of the CPU is causing those problems. I've really torqued down on heatsinks and waterblocks in my day, and never had that problem. I'm honestly at a loss for words.

Hopefully you can get that sorted out pretty quick. I'm having some issues on my build currently. My idle temp is around 33-35c with an ambient of 82f...using Zalman STG-1, H50 with rad on rear of case(pull / case / rad / shroud / push), mesh cut from top/rear/front-lower fan areas, all R4 120mm fans. What's likely hurting me is my high ambient temp. It's seriously 20f hotter in this room than it is outside right now. This is because...

1. This room is top floor of house. It stays pretty hot upstairs during the summer, day or night. I'm also right above the laundry room and water heater.

2. I have an incubator keeping some snake eggs at about 85f for the next 5-6 weeks.

3. This PC puts off heat.

So even though the central A/C is on, I've got three sources of heat in this room. I may just toss some cash at a decent window a/c unit, that'd solve the problem real quick.
 
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Hi guys, I just ordered myself an H50 and have been looking at getting some proper fans for it. I have had a look at these and they seem all right, would you recommend them? I just want to get a second opinion on them as I want to pick them up from the store and it's an hour bus ride...
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Well I've figured out the CPU is not the problem. Replaced it with known working Athlon II and no post with 4 sticks of RAM. H50 is not the problem either as that happened with the Stock 955 BE cooler that I replaced the H50 with. H50 is still mounted and ready to go once I figure out what the hell exactly is going on. My Bro has 8 Gigs of Ripjaws, so I'm thinking on swapping my sticks to his system and vice versa to see if it is RAM. But I'm seriously doubting it as I'm right back to Slots 1 & 2.

All I know is having a hard time mounting the cooler exasperated my last good nerve and this Post issue has stretched it taught.

~Ceadder
 
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AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Crosshair IV Formula Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 
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Corsair Dominator G. Skill Ripjaws X G. Skill x2 HITACHI 1TB Deskstars 1TB RAID0 
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ASUS DRW-24B1ST  Swiftech 6950/6870 GPU Heatsink Swiftech 6950/6870 GPU Heatsink Monsoon 1/2"x5/8" PETG White Hardline tubing. 
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Monsoon Economy Hardline fittings EK Dual DDC V2 top Swiftech Pump DDC-1T (2) Liquid Fusion V Double helix Reservoir 
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Yate Loon 120x20 (D12SM-12C) Medium Speed Silen... EK Supreme HF Classified EK Thermosphere GPU Block EK Thermosphere GPU Block 
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HAF 932 Logitech g9x COOLER MASTER Weapon of Choice: M4 Duramesh Pad Logitech X-240 2.1 speakers 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Crosshair IV Formula Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 
RAMRAMRAMHard Drive
Corsair Dominator G. Skill Ripjaws X G. Skill x2 HITACHI 1TB Deskstars 1TB RAID0 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
ASUS DRW-24B1ST  Swiftech 6950/6870 GPU Heatsink Swiftech 6950/6870 GPU Heatsink Monsoon 1/2"x5/8" PETG White Hardline tubing. 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Monsoon Economy Hardline fittings EK Dual DDC V2 top Swiftech Pump DDC-1T (2) Liquid Fusion V Double helix Reservoir 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Yate Loon 120x20 (D12SM-12C) Medium Speed Silen... EK Supreme HF Classified EK Thermosphere GPU Block EK Thermosphere GPU Block 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win7 64 bit Ultimate OEM Asus VH222H Black HDMI Widescreen Logitech the OCZ went buhbye adios. Don't know ... Corsair CMPSU HX 850w Modular 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
HAF 932 Logitech g9x COOLER MASTER Weapon of Choice: M4 Duramesh Pad Logitech X-240 2.1 speakers 
OtherOther
Sunbeam Rheosmart 3 Creative X-Fi 
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