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Could this be a problem with my h50 cooler or am just crazy for sticking all this in such a small case ?
From the look of your pics you have no other fans in the case?
Everthing will get hot if you don't have proper ventilation. You are filling up your case with hot air drawn across the h50 rad and it can't escape. In other words your case is becoming an oven!
Try reversing the fans on the h50 to exhaust out the back, but untill you get some more airflow in the case(at least 1 fan drawing in cool air at the front) you are going to have heat problems.
That fan blowing onto the graphics card will also make for more hot air onto the mobo!
Edited by pedrosa - 8/15/10 at 4:43am
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I did several searches and I didn't find a clear answer to my questions. I plan on building a new pc in a month or 2. I plan on using these components :
1. Intel i7 875k 2.93ghz
2. Asus P7P55D E-Pro motherboard
3. Asus Ati Radeon 5870 v2 non-reference gpu
4. Kingston Hyper-X 8gb ddr3 1600
5. Corsair H50 CPU cooler
6. Antec P183
7. Antect CP-850 watt psu
8. Intel x-25 ssd 80gb
9. Western digital caviar blue 1tb 2nd hard drive
10. Windows 7 64bit
11. Samsung PX 2370 led/LCD monitor 23" 1920x1080 resolution

I will be using this pc strictly for gaming. Mainly FFXIV. I plan to over clock to 4.0ghz on 4 cores and maybe 4.2ghz when only one core is working.
My main questions are:
1. Is this build good (all parts are compatible and the best bang for my buck)?
2. With this case I hope to use all the available 120mm fans slots as needed. I believe this case has 2 exhaust fans stock, 1 at top and 1 rear. It has 2 slots for intake fans in front. It also has a spot inside the case for an additional fan that can attach to the top drive bay.
With my gaming use and overclocking needs what would be the best configuration for airflow with the H50?
3. I plan on running the H50 with push/pull and I think a rear Exhaust configuration would be best but I'm not sure, should I run my rear push/pull with exhaust or intake?
4. I'm hoping on running it with an exhaust setup because the rear fan slots don't have filters and I have a Persian cat that sheds a lot. I plan on doing all I can to keep the hair away from my pc, but it's still a concern I need to keep in mind.
5. Performance is my main concern, having a quite rig is 2nd. I plan on using the noctua p-12 fans on the H50 rad. Is that a good choice?
6. What would be the best case fan airflow setup be exactly? Intake from front 2 fans and exhaust from top and rear fans (including H50 push/pull)?
7. Which case fans at what rpm and airflow would be best for performance and low noise for that case and setup? I plan on keeping the front door to the case closed at all time so I can cut down on the amount of cat hair and dust I get in my case. Is keeping the door closed something to consider when picking my 2 front intake fans? I was thinking on getting the scythe s-flex fans but I wasn't sure what rpm and airflow would be best for my setup while keeping low noise into consideration.
Any advice would be great. I'm willing to change almost anything on the build if it means more perfomance with less noise for the money.
My budget is 2,000 for the pc.
Edited by Kyushu - 8/15/10 at 5:06am
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HI everybody!

I've been reading A LOT in this thread, not the 1253 pages though!
I just assembled my rig yesterday, I'm testing the temps on my I7 at 1.32v and 4Gh, but I think I have some problems with my H50:

1.- the pump it's quite loud, and more than a buzzing or humming noise is like a clicking noise, like when you touch the blades of a fan with a piece of paper.
Hello and welcome to the club =)

Well first thing, if it was me I would definately RMA that unit. Corsair will have no problems sending you a new one if this one is making odd sounds. Just because the pump 'seems' to be running fine or at rated speeds doesn't mean it might not be on it's way to failure, possibly while the pc is unattended and if you don't have temp threshold protection set up with those high of temps already, it could really be catastrophic for your cpu ><

If you don't want to do that for some reason there's a couple things I have done that, when combined together, have moderately improved my temps...nothing fantastic but if you've got the time here's a list of mods I have done over the past few weeks...

1)Lapped H50 and my CPU:
http://tinypic.com/r/72vspd/4


2)Ordered some IC7 Diamond TIM(in my experience it outperforms AS5) plus the suggested method of application on the package it comes in seems almost meant for the H50, lol(dot method with pressure and slight twist).

3)Gutted some worthless antec fans to use as shrouds and placed one on either side of rad in-between rad and fans:
http://tinypic.com/r/72vspd/4

may or may not be able to tell but I also added a piece of thin piece of plastic(gutted fan grills I never used or planned on ever using) to give the shrouds 35mm width as this is purportedly the "sweet spot" for shrouds on the H50.

4)I found in my particular situation that mounting the h50 as a front intake in the bottom of the DVD bays worked out the best and I don't have to worry about blowing hot air over other components with 2 fans exhausting out the top:
http://tinypic.com/r/72zxh2/4
not very hard to reach the front with all the fans/shrouds i have attached, lol.


hope that helps some of ya, also keep an eye out for static pressure or air pressure as it's sometimes referred to when you're looking to upgrade your push/pull fans, this is, IMHO, the most important rating of a radiator fan...those are Silverstone FM123's on mine if you're wondering.
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I did several searches and I didn't find a clear answer to my questions. I plan on building a new pc in a month or 2. I plan on using these components :
1. Intel i7 875k 2.93ghz
2. Asus P7P55D E-Pro motherboard
3. Asus Ati Radeon 5870 v2 non-reference gpu
4. Kingston Hyper-X 8gb ddr3 1600
5. Corsair H50 CPU cooler
6. Antec P183
7. Antect CP-850 watt psu
8. Intel x-25 ssd 80gb
9. Western digital caviar blue 1tb 2nd hard drive
10. Windows 7 64bit
11. Samsung PX 2370 led/LCD monitor 23" 1920x1080 resolution

I will be using this pc strictly for gaming. Mainly FFXIV. I plan to over clock to 4.0ghz on 4 cores and maybe 4.2ghz when only one core is working.
My main questions are:
1. Is this build good (all parts are compatible and the best bang for my buck)?
2. With this case I hope to use all the available 120mm fans slots as needed. I believe this case has 2 exhaust fans stock, 1 at top and 1 rear. It has 2 slots for intake fans in front. It also has a spot inside the case for an additional fan that can attach to the top drive bay.
With my gaming use and overclocking needs what would be the best configuration for airflow with the H50?
3. I plan on running the H50 with push/pull and I think a rear Exhaust configuration would be best but I'm not sure, should I run my rear push/pull with exhaust or intake?
4. I'm hoping on running it with an exhaust setup because the rear fan slots don't have filters and I have a Persian cat that sheds a lot. I plan on doing all I can to keep the hair away from my pc, but it's still a concern I need to keep in mind.
5. Performance is my main concern, having a quite rig is 2nd. I plan on using the noctua p-12 fans on the H50 rad. Is that a good choice?
6. What would be the best case fan airflow setup be exactly? Intake from front 2 fans and exhaust from top and rear fans (including H50 push/pull)?
7. Which case fans at what rpm and airflow would be best for performance and low noise for that case and setup? I plan on keeping the front door to the case closed at all time so I can cut down on the amount of cat hair and dust I get in my case. Is keeping the door closed something to consider when picking my 2 front intake fans? I was thinking on getting the scythe s-flex fans but I wasn't sure what rpm and airflow would be best for my setup while keeping low noise into consideration.
Any advice would be great. I'm willing to change almost anything on the build if it means more perfomance with less noise for the money.
My budget is 2,000 for the pc.
Honestly, I think the h50 probably isn't going to handle 4 to 4.2 GHz too well. You could do one of two things - mod the h50 or consider the h70 - either of which should provide a 5 to 10C improvement over the stock h50. I and several others experienced virtually no difference trying to use better fans - while a larger rad (h50 modded with dual rad or h70 with thick rad) is gauranteed to improve performance. I would recommend spending your hard earned money on what's gauranteed to improve performance first.

Based on your case selection, I imagine you prefer a fairly conservative looking case. That's why I chose my Antec 300, but I do wish I had picked up something with a spot for a dual or triple rad up top - even if it meant a fairly gamer-ish looking case. Keep this in mind as you can easily and cheaply mod the h50 with a dual rad (which I def would have already done by now if I had room for it). It's also good future proofing in case you decide you want to go with a custom loop. Room for a triple rad will enable you to include gpu cooling in your custom loop.

Also something to keep in mind IF you think you might ever do a larger radiator is how much room there is between the top of the case and the top of the mobo. Make sure a rad with fans attached hanging from the top of the case isn't going to interfere with the mobo. I would suggest something with a bit of head room up there. This is also a problem I've noticed with my Antec 300 - even if I wanted to install a rad up top, it would interfere with the mobo.

Look at the haf 922 for example - it has room for a dual rad up top and it's $50 cheaper than what you have selected (that's $50 that can be put towards better cooling)... and I think it could still have a decently conservative look if you don't fill it with LED fans. Consensus on best rad fans probably falls between Yate Loons and GT AP-15s - but as I said, some people report improvements and some don't. GTs are quieter.
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Not sure which GPU I'll use yet, either waiting for my HD5770 to come back from RMA or I'll get something else... I paired the h50 with two GT AP13 fans (which are SILENT) to cool a sexy i3 540 I picked up on sale (Less than the price of an i3 530... which I used to own ). This rig is amazingly quiet, installing Win 7 now.

This rig is sitting next to my keyboard, and I can't hear it... that says a lot because I'm sensitive to noise.

Here's a quick pic.. I modded the h50 retention bracket to work with the ITX board.




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Not sure about my temps... both core-temp and Gigabyte's built-in software both claim that no less than one of my cores idles below ambient temp... at 24C ambient my idles temps according to CoreTemp are 24C and 18C (for each core respectively)... the load seems OK, hitting 46C and 40C respectively after 15 minutes of Prime95 at stock settings. I'm going to have to try a few more software monitors... and then undervolt it
    
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Ooh very nice. And on a ITX? Very very nice. Would love to see a top pic if you think of it when you have the PSU out of the way. +Rep for the mounting mod.

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I picked the antec p183 because of it's filtered intake fans and because of it's door. I think that will help me a ton with the damn cat hair and dust problems. If you think I can get 4.0ghz on 4 cores I'd be more than willing to get the H70 and I'd also be willing to give up the 4.2ghz on fewer cores. I really just want 4.0 on 4 cores. Also if you think the HAF 922 or 932 is much better for cooling than the p183 even though I think the haf will get more dust and crap in it, I'd be willing to switch cases. I'd prefer to use the antec p193, 1200 or the 902 in that order if you think those cases will get me more performance. I like those cases more than the HAFs. But again, if you think that the HAFs are the best bang for my buck then I'd be willing to go with one of the Hafs.
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I picked the antec p183 because of it's filtered intake fans and because of it's door. I think that will help me a ton with the damn cat hair and dust problems. If you think I can get 4.0ghz on 4 cores I'd be more than willing to get the H70 and I'd also be willing to give up the 4.2ghz on fewer cores. I really just want 4.0 on 4 cores. Also if you think the HAF 922 or 932 is much better for cooling than the p183 even though I think the haf will get more dust and crap in it, I'd be willing to switch cases. I'd prefer to use the antec p193, 1200 or the 902 in that order if you think those cases will get me more performance. I like those cases more than the HAFs. But again, if you think that the HAFs are the best bang for my buck then I'd be willing to go with one of the Hafs.

I wouldn't base my decision to buy a case on whether or not the fans are filtered....you can always add some 120mm filters for a couple bucks on your intakes. Filters for the 200cm+ fans on the HAF series are a little more pricey but you can always go with a swiffer pad like i did on my bottom front intake xDDD
I would focus more on your components and how well they will fit in the case and whether the case allows you to decently manage your cables...airflow will suffer no matter what fans or case you're using if you've got jumbles of wires restricting it.

And btw the H50 can certainly handle a 4ghz OC if the system is set up well...i know i'm using AMD and not Intel but I still think it does a good job with mine...3.4 ghz stock OC'd 4.06 and I don't break 56c on a 10 hour prime95 run.
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Dude you do know you can get a 932 which has a ton more airflow and to combat dust you can get a DEMCiFlex filter kit for it. Right?

It's what I have and I doubt that you have anymore dust than I do. We've got birds. Ever seen the mess they make? The dust is absolutely the worst and my system sits driectly across the room from them. It makes doing system vids fun as well cause one of them has to do their own commentary. lol

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