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how do i do a push/pull method? I just used the stock way of cooling the H50. Is that correct??
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how do i do a push/pull method? I just used the stock way of cooling the H50. Is that correct??
push is referring to a fan mounted so that the airflow from it is pushing through the radiator(i.e. how you have it set up now). Pull is referring to a 2nd fan(like the H-70 comes with) placed on the other side of the radiator, moving air in the same direction as the 1st fan and "pulling" it through the radiator. I certainly wouldn't call the stock setup incorrect - not optimal would be a better description.
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I lost one of the silver push-through thread receivers that go through the back-plate to hold it in place and to receive the screws that hold the retaining ring to the motherboard. Does anyone know when I can get one?

I tried to find a phone number for Corsair Customer Service to see if they would send me one, but I did not see a number anywhere on the Corsair web site.

fafner

If they are all the same i have some left overs from my kit. PM me you address.

EDIT, No good, just checked the box,I ditched all left over plates, screws, ect, sorry
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Anyone else have one? I have 3 of the SATA hot-swap back plates I can donate to anyone who needs one of more.

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Ok sweet.

I would think twice about using one as exhaust though Oo. These fans are uniquely designed to channel air - that seems best used in the interior of the case where you most likely have multiple fans at varying rpm's and CFM's blowing in different directions....seems like if they're not going on the rad they'd be best used to ensure your air is moving strongly in the direction most beneficial to you.

I got the impression that the "magic" of this fan happens when the air is exiting the fan so when picturing my airflow I'm going to pick my 2 most critical cool intakes or blast through a hot pocket if I can find one(laser thermometer coming soon =P )don't really see how it could have a great effect as exhaust unless you're cold and have no heater and sit too far from your pc for a normal fan to warm you up xDDDD

Of course feel free to place them wherever you think best...just my opinion, I don't have my hands on them yet and I'm sure there is info about them I'm missing.
Good point, that makes alot of sense.
It sounds like two Silverstone APs inline to push/pull on the H70 might not be ideal. Maybe I'll use one to push with a higher RPM fan to pull.
I'll experiment a bit with it and see where it goes as well.
My 2x order arrives on Tues or Wed. Can't wait!
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push is referring to a fan mounted so that the airflow from it is pushing through the radiator(i.e. how you have it set up now). Pull is referring to a 2nd fan(like the H-70 comes with) placed on the other side of the radiator, moving air in the same direction as the 1st fan and "pulling" it through the radiator. I certainly wouldn't call the stock setup incorrect - not optimal would be a better description.
To the point of not being optimal, there is a substantial amount of noise with the H70 stock fans in push pull config w/o the resistors inline.
The resistors will lower the fan rpm from 1900 to 1595. My bios doesn't auto control these bad boys as the included connectors are only 3pin.
Corsair intends these to run fast - it's a big radiator and needs substantial airflow. I've included a link to a great article I've been using while pondering.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-10.html

Don't get me wrong - I know noise isn't always a concern for people and certainly less common on an overclockers forum!

There are really two things going on here.

What fan config is going to deliver the best performance and what is the best performance delivered with a second objective of reducing overall noise?
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To the point of not being optimal, there is a substantial amount of noise with the H70 stock fans in push pull config w/o the resistors inline.
The resistors will lower the fan rpm from 1900 to 1595. My bios doesn't auto control these bad boys as the included connectors are only 3pin.
Corsair intends these to run fast - it's a big radiator and needs substantial airflow. I've included a link to a great article I've been using while pondering.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-10.html

Don't get me wrong - I know noise isn't always a concern for people and certainly less common on an overclockers forum!

There are really two things going on here.

What fan config is going to deliver the best performance and what is the best performance delivered with a second objective of reducing overall noise?
Gents, I don't know why people keep trying to use a 25 mm fan on this. Even with my H50, I switched from S-Flex 1600 rpm to Ultra Kaze 35 mm 2000 rpm fans and have never looked back. They are inexpensive ($10.00), put out much better static pressure than you will ever get from a 25 mm fan (yes even the GTs) and are fairly quiet (you don't even need a fan controller), I hear a low pitched background sound but its certainly not loud or annoying (don't get the 3,000 rpm Ultra Kaze though because that IS loud and annoying). For $10.00 do yourselves a favor and try it out. You won't be going back to any 25 mm fan...oh and the performance increase for my H50 has been about 3-5 degrees.
    
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Gents, I don't know why people keep trying to use a 25 mm fan on this. Even with my H50, I switched from S-Flex 1600 rpm to Ultra Kaze 35 mm 2000 rpm fans and have never looked back. They are inexpensive ($10.00), put out much better static pressure than you will ever get from a 25 mm fan (yes even the GTs) and are fairly quiet (you don't even need a fan controller), I hear a low pitched background sound but its certainly not loud or annoying (don't get the 3,000 rpm Ultra Kaze though because that IS loud and annoying). For $10.00 do yourselves a favor and try it out. You won't be going back to any 25 mm fan...oh and the performance increase for my H50 has been about 3-5 degrees.
Opps I meant Ultra Kaze 38 mm 2000 rpm fan (no such thing as a 35 mm)
    
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To the point of not being optimal, there is a substantial amount of noise with the H70 stock fans in push pull config w/o the resistors inline.
The resistors will lower the fan rpm from 1900 to 1595. My bios doesn't auto control these bad boys as the included connectors are only 3pin.
Corsair intends these to run fast - it's a big radiator and needs substantial airflow. I've included a link to a great article I've been using while pondering.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-10.html

Don't get me wrong - I know noise isn't always a concern for people and certainly less common on an overclockers forum!

He is using an H50 though so adding almost any fan from whisper to turbine should be an improvement regardless of your goal - unless the goal is higher temps xD

That thread was a nice read, hadn't seen that one yet thanks for the think. Sounds like our SSAP's(TM lol) will be arriving around the same day - my order may arrive monday but more likely tuesday. Really looking forward to it as well. Should be a lot of fun to play with. I was thinking of setting up some sort of low tech airflow monitoring system....cut something really light up into strips and place strategically, or some other system, have to give it
some thought.

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Opps I meant Ultra Kaze 38 mm 2000 rpm fan (no such thing as a 35 mm)
Funny man I put 2 of those on an overnight order from newegg not but 2 hours ago, lol. Had to pic up the CPU for the PC i'm building for my bro who's birthday is tomorrow - don't think I'll get it in time but hopefully will at least be done with all the friggin painting. Not going to lie I'm having fun though, first time I've tried modding anything really - http://www.overclock.net/case-mod-wo...900-paint.html

Alright, be back soon - dam u kyushu =P doing it now
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push is referring to a fan mounted so that the airflow from it is pushing through the radiator(i.e. how you have it set up now). Pull is referring to a 2nd fan(like the H-70 comes with) placed on the other side of the radiator, moving air in the same direction as the 1st fan and "pulling" it through the radiator. I certainly wouldn't call the stock setup incorrect - not optimal would be a better description.
So mount 2 fans on either side of the radiator, then make one push the air through from outside of the case, then one more on the otherside pull it to the CPU area?

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-> = 120mm fan airflow direction
{} = H50 radiator
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Gents, I don't know why people keep trying to use a 25 mm fan on this. Even with my H50, I switched from S-Flex 1600 rpm to Ultra Kaze 35 mm 2000 rpm fans and have never looked back. They are inexpensive ($10.00), put out much better static pressure than you will ever get from a 25 mm fan (yes even the GTs) and are fairly quiet (you don't even need a fan controller), I hear a low pitched background sound but its certainly not loud or annoying (don't get the 3,000 rpm Ultra Kaze though because that IS loud and annoying). For $10.00 do yourselves a favor and try it out. You won't be going back to any 25 mm fan...oh and the performance increase for my H50 has been about 3-5 degrees.
Yea, i have two Ultra Kaze fans set up right now on a fan controller. Cant hear them at full speed :}
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