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finally installed the H70 .

after finding the HAF X gpu shroud isn't meant for card with the pci-e connector at the end but rather at the side so my silverstone fan won't fit nowhere in the case. I finally gave up on the idea of fitting them somewhere with zip tie in the case for the day . Might keep them when I will go for a complete watter loop or for another case or do a giveaway . But they were pretty expensive so I will most likely find a way to mount them in the case one way or another .

dropped my temps by about 4-6degree C compared to my u12p on full load so I'm not all that impressed maybe i didn't seated the block correctly or I have to much/not enough mounting pressure.

Are the temps right at the end ?

    
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Hey all...

I'm interested in maybe, experimenting with some better fans on my H50.

I'm currently using the Cooler Master R4 Series with Red LED's, two in a push/pull configuration with a pair of custom 25mm shrouds...

At the moment, I am running 3.9ghz. It seems to be running fairly stable, have not had any problems with Prime95...

However, my Temps run up pretty hot while under extreme load such as Prime95. Using Asus PC ProbeII, it reports my Temps running up to 64c; while Core Temp, HWMonitor and Everest report it going up to 70+.

Granting, most gaming won't stress my system as much as Prime95, and dispite those high Temps with Prime95, I'm not having problems, so I believe I have a good, reliable and stable Overclock.

BUT, I still want to try to push my Temps down a bit more, and I am wondering if a pair of different Fans might make a difference?

Thing is, I'm finicky over the noise. My Cooler Master R4's are not very noisy, though they are audible even with my TV on, next to me. If they were louder, it probably would bug me but I am rather comfortable with them as they are...

So I am wondering, should I stick with using them?

Or is there a better Fan out there that I could experiment with that might lower my Temps a little bit?

I don't want a jet engine here running all night, as I have to sleep, 5 feet from my computer, after all... and it stays on all night.

With a pair of Scythe GT AP-15's be any better?
those temps seem really high. you should not go over 60c on any program let alone 70. i would reseat and reapply TIM first, and clean out the rad if its dusty. also the temp margin of the cores vs TPIN0 (socket) gets narrower as temps rise.

also AP-15's, although they have great performance/noise, with your set up, you will see only marginal temp improvement but alot of noise reduction
Edited by Namwons - 10/16/10 at 10:21pm
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Originally Posted by cjc75 View Post
Hey all...

I'm interested in maybe, experimenting with some better fans on my H50.

I'm currently using the Cooler Master R4 Series with Red LED's, two in a push/pull configuration with a pair of custom 25mm shrouds...

At the moment, I am running 3.9ghz. It seems to be running fairly stable, have not had any problems with Prime95...

However, my Temps run up pretty hot while under extreme load such as Prime95. Using Asus PC ProbeII, it reports my Temps running up to 64c; while Core Temp, HWMonitor and Everest report it going up to 70+.

Granting, most gaming won't stress my system as much as Prime95, and dispite those high Temps with Prime95, I'm not having problems, so I believe I have a good, reliable and stable Overclock.

BUT, I still want to try to push my Temps down a bit more, and I am wondering if a pair of different Fans might make a difference?

Thing is, I'm finicky over the noise. My Cooler Master R4's are not very noisy, though they are audible even with my TV on, next to me. If they were louder, it probably would bug me but I am rather comfortable with them as they are...

So I am wondering, should I stick with using them?

Or is there a better Fan out there that I could experiment with that might lower my Temps a little bit?

I don't want a jet engine here running all night, as I have to sleep, 5 feet from my computer, after all... and it stays on all night.

With a pair of Scythe GT AP-15's be any better?
Post the settings you have for your cpu... something must be too high.. because that is WAY TOO HOT for just 3.9ghz.. maybe its your room ambients.. since that also matters.. that can probably be the cause why its sow high your temps on max load

dammit.. my mistake again.. yes you were using the chip i mentioned... 955 C3.... so yeah 1.5v should be enough for 4ghz.. and it shoudl not reach that high in max load temps
Edited by sendblink23 - 10/16/10 at 10:47pm
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Hey all...
I'm interested in maybe, experimenting with some better fans on my H50.
I'm currently using the Cooler Master R4 Series with Red LED's, two in a push/pull configuration with a pair of custom 25mm shrouds...
At the moment, I am running 3.9ghz. It seems to be running fairly stable, have not had any problems with Prime95...
However, my Temps run up pretty hot while under extreme load such as Prime95. Using Asus PC ProbeII, it reports my Temps running up to 64c; while Core Temp, HWMonitor and Everest report it going up to 70+.
Granting, most gaming won't stress my system as much as Prime95, and dispite those high Temps with Prime95, I'm not having problems, so I believe I have a good, reliable and stable Overclock.
BUT, I still want to try to push my Temps down a bit more, and I am wondering if a pair of different Fans might make a difference?
Thing is, I'm finicky over the noise. My Cooler Master R4's are not very noisy, though they are audible even with my TV on, next to me. If they were louder, it probably would bug me but I am rather comfortable with them as they are...
So I am wondering, should I stick with using them?
Or is there a better Fan out there that I could experiment with that might lower my Temps a little bit?
I don't want a jet engine here running all night, as I have to sleep, 5 feet from my computer, after all... and it stays on all night.
With a pair of Scythe GT AP-15's be any better?
First before even talking about different fans or setups you need to go back to stock speeds/vcore if your getting anything 63C or over. The max temps for your CPU is 55-63C I would never comfortable run my CPU over 55C though I do run my computer 24/7 and there are different things that I do to run my CPU at 100% at times so not a typical user.

GT AP-15's have a lot better static pressure than the R4's and not to mention they a lot quieter and reliable. They also don't fudge the specifications like R4's. Have you checked to see what your R4's are actually running for RPMs? They list specs at 2k but thanks to lousy build quality and QC your lucky if you they work let alone run at close to 2k.

Again the first thing to do is to go back to stock Vcore and speed and make sure your temps are stable at that.(no more than 55C) After you can get a temp lower than 55C at stock temps then and only then should you start working on OCing.
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My temps, only run over 60c... while running Prime95.

During Gaming, my Temps seem to only go up into the mid-high 50's; depending on the game and room temps...

At the moment, I am running Second Life, which I do more of; and my Temp is 41c; mind this is next to an open window with a cool room temp just under 70F; at least I am presuming my thermostat is in the Fahrenheit.

Originally, on stock settings... 3.2ghz with stock vCore; and average Room Temp between 70 - 75 (with window closed); I'm idling in the high 30's and under load, high 40's... Typically, thats with a Room Temp of around 75+.

So originally with 3.2ghz Stock; 38c idle, 45c under load; least thats how its been through my typically hot summer days with a room temp of 75+.

Mind, I have not blown out my Case for a few months so I'm pretty sure my Radiator needs a good cleaning with a can of compressed air.

Summer's over, my nights are getting cooler and eventually colder, so of course my Room Temps are going down and I can squeeze a slightly higher overclock.

At present.

3.9ghz.
FSB @ 205 + Multi @ x19.0
Vcore @1.5v
CPU/NB @ 2468mhz with CPU/NB Voltage on "Auto" (testing this at higher speeds with more voltage results in bluescreens)

This also gives me a slight OC on my Ram to 1644.

While working on these tweaks earlier this afternoon, I had Prime95 running for an hour with no problems nor any errors... However, I deliberately STOPPED Prime95 at that point because when I came to look at it and saw the high temps, I decided I was not comfortable with them.

I tried testing with lower voltage on the Vcore, hoping to lower the Temps a little. I tested at 1.45 and 1.475 and 1.485; and each causes fatal errors with Prime95 after only about 5 - 10 minutes. But putting vCore at 1.5; and Prime95 runs fine.

I had a brief discussion thread going, discussing my Tweaks earlier this afternoon, over in the AMD CPU section.

I'm pretty satisfied with its stability at present; like I said, the high Temps only occur while running Prime95. Otherwise, I seldom see them over 55c while under load with Gaming. I just played BF2BC for a few hours earlier, and the highest I saw it go with this current OC Profile, was 55.
     
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First before even talking about different fans or setups you need to go back to stock speeds/vcore if your getting anything 63C or over. The max temps for your CPU is 55-63C I would never comfortable run my CPU over 55C though I do run my computer 24/7 and there are different things that I do to run my CPU at 100% at times so not a typical user.

GT AP-15's have a lot better static pressure than the R4's and not to mention they a lot quieter and reliable. They also don't fudge the specifications like R4's. Have you checked to see what your R4's are actually running for RPMs? They list specs at 2k but thanks to lousy build quality and QC your lucky if you they work let alone run at close to 2k.

Again the first thing to do is to go back to stock Vcore and speed and make sure your temps are stable at that.(no more than 55C) After you can get a temp lower than 55C at stock temps then and only then should you start working on OCing.
We are forgetting to suggest him to re-seat the H50


@ cjc75

Good you found the stability... but honestly Re-Seat yoru H50, i have much higher Ambient temps than you 90F and my 965 C3 at 4Ghz 1.5v I get much lower max load with the H50 same setup push/pull R4's shrouds(in the past)... my 965 its pretty much similar to your 955... and when here people are saying its too hot... its because we know what we are talking about - its for safety on your CPU

Hopefully a re-seat(apply new thermal paste) and a can of air pressure for clean up on the rad/fans etc.. will indeed lower down your temps


Another question... how is the case fans set up inside your case... maybe the ventilation inside your case its not playing that good with you
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GT AP-15's have a lot better static pressure than the R4's and not to mention they a lot quieter and reliable. They also don't fudge the specifications like R4's. Have you checked to see what your R4's are actually running for RPMs? They list specs at 2k but thanks to lousy build quality and QC your lucky if you they work let alone run at close to 2k.
Yes I know Cooler Master skewed some of the specs on the R4's.

Mine are running at around 1850 - 1900rpm.

So far, I've had nothing but excellent quality out of them; but I know I can probably do better.
     
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We are forgetting to suggest him to re-seat the H50
My H50 is secured down via its included AM3 mounting kit; it does have a a solid contact; I've had it running since April of this year without any problems.
     
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My H50 is secured down via its included AM3 mounting kit; it does have a a solid contact; I've had it running since April of this year without any problems.
well don't re-seat it.. stay with your extremely way high temps
We are experienced users with or have had an H50... don't forget we use similar chips... and are simply trying to help you out.. if you don't want to take our suggestions as Help for improvement... so be it
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Also, due to my open window, it is much colder now in my room, compared with where the thermostat is down the hall; which reads about 66.

At present my Room is probably around 63.

Earlier, while I was doing my tweak testings with Prime95, I did not have the Window open, and it was much warmer outside; and my room temps were around 70 - 75.

My H50 is also mounted on the rear of my Case, running as Exhaust, in a push/pull configuration... as follows:

<<airflow<<Fan<<<shroud<<<case<<<Rad<<<shroud<<<Fa n

I find it works better for me this way as opposed to running the H50 as an Intake. My computer sits on the floor under my desk and there is not much cool air down there for it to pull in, as an intake. So this way, its sucking the cool air directly in through the front case fan, and venting out the rear as exhaust.

I plan, at some point, to add a second Front Case Fan, and install a duct setup between that fan, running directly into the H50's fans; to ensure that the H50 is gaurantee's that it gets no hotter air from the case interior.

While typing out this post, I closed my window because .. it was getting a little too cold, for my comfort; and since closing the window, my CPU Temp went from 41c up to 44c... mind this is also while running Second Life.

With nothing running, it seems to idle around 38c at 3.9ghz.
     
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