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Cool , yes a push fan will help improve temps slightly . If the air is cool inside your case then just leave it how it is and add a push fan whenever u please .
    
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If his 570 is pushing hot air out of the back of his case instead of into it then maybe he is better off with his current setup. If you have the time try both and compare temps. Because my GPU does put heat into my case I currently have it setup opposite of yours.

edit: didn't see the couple posts above me when I posted this.
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I've also done this to my case (don't laugh tongue.gif)

The only way in for air is through the fans.
Eventually, I'm going to cut out of the casing in front of the bottom fan too.
frontofcase.jpg

Even the side door vents are closed up.
Not the prettiest job ever, but you can't see it when the computer is under the desk.
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And as a result, these are my temps..
(I only let IBT run 4 times because I want to play BC2 Vietnam)
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My CPU did not exceed 73C on any of the cores.

I think that's pretty good. biggrin.gif
Edited by kidaquarius - 12/20/10 at 6:30pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kidaquarius;11720493 
I've also done this to my case (don't laugh tongue.gif)

The only way in for air is through the fans.
Eventually, I'm going to cut out of the casing in front of the bottom fan too.

Even the side door vents are closed up.
Not the prettiest job ever, but you can't see it when the computer is under the desk.

And as a result, these are my temps..
(I only let IBT run 4 times because I want to play BC2 Vietnam)

My CPU did not exceed 73C on any of the cores.

I think that's pretty good. biggrin.gif

Looks good to me when you put the front on your case you would never even see you did that to it. I have a new setup that should be done shortly after Xmas and I already have the front fan "grill" cut out of it I may cut out the back one too.

I don't understand all the newer people here and their suggestions to intake from the rear of the case. There is more than 1000 pages that have proven the few C you may get if any at all you get using intake from the rear is simply not worth shortening the life of all your other components or stressing them more with all the heat.

Case manufacturers designed the cases to keep everything cool why would anyone want to go against their design and screw everything up for one component out of all the others in their setup:doh: Most modern cases are designed for front and side intake and rear and top exhaust by changing the rear to exhaust you mess up the whole thermal design and airflow of the case doh.gif So not only are you adding in the hot air from the H50/H70 your making it that much harder for other fans to keep everything cool.
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Originally Posted by Carfanatic;11721454 

I don't understand all the newer people here and their suggestions to intake from the rear of the case. There is more than 1000 pages that have proven the few C you may get if any at all you get using intake from the rear is simply not worth shortening the life of all your other components or stressing them more with all the heat.

Case manufacturers designed the cases to keep everything cool why would anyone want to go against their design and screw everything up for one component out of all the others in their setup:doh: Most modern cases are designed for front and side intake and rear and top exhaust by changing the rear to exhaust you mess up the whole thermal design and airflow of the case doh.gif So not only are you adding in the hot air from the H50/H70 your making it that much harder for other fans to keep everything cool.

Just out of curiosity, can you show me some proof on the differences in temps for the CPU both ways, and how pulling air from outside the case increases the stress on your other components?
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Originally Posted by Gohan_Nightwing;11722590 
Just out of curiosity, can you show me some proof on the differences in temps for the CPU both ways, and how pulling air from outside the case increases the stress on your other components?

There's over 1500 pages here not going to read them for you I myself started with rear intake and tried rear exhaust and I there was a 1C difference.

Nothing that I typed said that pulling air from outside the case increases stress on other components I said the HEAT that has no where to go because you mess up the whole thermal design of your case stresses your other components.
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Originally Posted by Carfanatic;11721454 
There is more than 1000 pages that have proven the few C you may get if any at all you get using intake from the rear is simply not worth shortening the life of all your other components or stressing them more with all the heat.

Yes you did... Right there. In context you were talking about how pulling air in from the outside goes against case designs. Granted that is true, but I would still like to see the proof of actual stress on other components by doing so.
Edited by Gohan_Nightwing - 12/20/10 at 9:47pm
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you need to have good airflow to make a difference. Also just because you add fans means nothing. A fan needs minimum 1 inch behind it of free space to produce any airflow. Even adding a fan filter reduces the efficiency/flow of the fan. I run my H50 with push/pull however I have spacers in my set up. Fan/spacer/rad/spacer/fan. The first spacer eliminates the dead spot in the center of the fan, the 2nd spacer allows the fan to pull air immidiately after the rad rather than sucking it from the rad. I get nice steady flow across my case. My idle temps are in the low 20's and low 40's under load. If it's hot my 1st fan spins to 2700 rpm but I keep it mostly about 1600 or so.
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Yes you did... Right there. In context you were talking about how pulling air in from the outside goes against case designs. Granted that is true, but I would still like to see the proof of actual stress on other components by doing so.

There is no extra "stress" from pulling air into the case but there is from the heat. There is no need to give proof it's common sense more heat = shorter life every case and setup is different so showing proof of actual stress from the heat on components would vary greatly from setup to setup and it isn't something that could be done in an hour or day or month it is over a much longer period of time that it would show and not something that is easy to show. When your power supply goes out or motherboard just fails for no apparent reason is it because everything was heated up more than normal because of your case setup or one of any other thousands of reasons who is to say? It is just simple logic that if you keep your components cooler they last longer. The best way to keep everything as cool as it can be is to use the setup the case manufacturers already put thousands of dollars and hours into designing. Messing with that design for only one component so some other companies product looks better isn't logical.
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There is no extra "stress" from pulling air into the case but there is from the heat. There is no need to give proof it's common sense more heat = shorter life every case and setup is different so showing proof of actual stress from the heat on components would vary greatly from setup to setup and it isn't something that could be done in an hour or day or month it is over a much longer period of time that it would show and not something that is easy to show. When your power supply goes out or motherboard just fails for no apparent reason is it because everything was heated up more than normal because of your case setup or one of any other thousands of reasons who is to say? It is just simple logic that if you keep your components cooler they last longer. The best way to keep everything as cool as it can be is to use the setup the case manufacturers already put thousands of dollars and hours into designing. Messing with that design for only one component so some other companies product looks better isn't logical.

Well first. The case has extra heat because of the fan setup. And of course, heat is bad for components, there is no doubt about that. However, what I'm curious about is, how much heat is brought in creating that sort of stress on the other components. You did hit the key issue though. It's all about the way each rig is setup. For example, if someone has top exhaust fans, pulling the air in might not be such a bad idea.

One last thought as well. Corsair themselves recommend pulling air from the outside, and they also create cases with the design to have air going out the back rather than in. So if they recommend pulling air in (contrary to their own case designs), there must be some sort of logic behind it.
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