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Well first. The case has extra heat because of the fan setup. And of course, heat is bad for components, there is no doubt about that. However, what I'm curious about is, how much heat is brought in creating that sort of stress on the other components. You did hit the key issue though. It's all about the way each rig is setup. For example, if someone has top exhaust fans, pulling the air in might not be such a bad idea.

One last thought as well. Corsair themselves recommend pulling air from the outside, and they also create cases with the design to have air going out the back rather than in. So if they recommend pulling air in (contrary to their own case designs), there must be some sort of logic behind it.

Yes the logic is that their product looks better by pulling in cooler air to cool your CPU but it sacrifices keeping all of your other components to do so.
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Yes the logic is that their product looks better by pulling in cooler air to cool your CPU but it sacrifices keeping all of your other components to do so.
So why did you buy their product if you think they are self-serving?
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So why did you buy their product if you think they are self-serving?
Every manufacturer wants their product to look as good as it can so I would say that all companies by nature are self-serving. If I didn't buy products from companies that where "self-serving" I wouldn't even be able to buy food.
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Well first. The case has extra heat because of the fan setup. And of course, heat is bad for components, there is no doubt about that. However, what I'm curious about is, how much heat is brought in creating that sort of stress on the other components. You did hit the key issue though. It's all about the way each rig is setup. For example, if someone has top exhaust fans, pulling the air in might not be such a bad idea.

One last thought as well. Corsair themselves recommend pulling air from the outside, and they also create cases with the design to have air going out the back rather than in. So if they recommend pulling air in (contrary to their own case designs), there must be some sort of logic behind it.
This is taken directly from Corsair's online store/website in reference to the 800D case:

"The power supply compartment, main compartment and the SATA bays each have dedicated cooling subsystems to prevent heat buildup.

A dust-filtered 140mm fan draws in cold air at the bottom of the case and exhausts it at the rear and top. This clever design forces fresh air directly over the graphics card and CPU."


And on this page of the same website corsair has a video they obviously apporoved where you can watch the H70 comparison against the Noctua....in which the guy describes one of the advantages corsair's product has is the ability to pull in fresh air from the top-rear.


Have you never heard of a marketing team?
I don't understand why you're giving carfanatic such a hard time here....He, some others, and myself have stayed active on this thread long, long after we considered our own setups to have reached optimal configuration so that we could provide some help and experienced advice to the constant influx of new users all pondering the same questions we have in the past 1000 or so pages.
I'm not saying you shouldn't try things out and see for yourself if that's what you feel inclined to do, I'm just saying that these questions are quite stale to some of us and we're all out for the same goal and on the same team.

Anyways, feel free to pick at anything that bothers you I guess....would be boring if nothing ever needed any explanation.^^
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post #15515 of 28303
Quick question..
Where do I get more screws when I want to attach a second fan?
Oh and what if I wanted longer screws?
Cheers.

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I had the h50 for a month (gave it to mrs when my h70 arrived)

H50 is quiet and cooled down my i7960 with no problems
h70 sounds like a jet plane. These fans are not going to last long in my house!
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Regarding that issue with the H50 as intake vs exhaust, I'm not really seeing a temp difference with intake and exhaust. If I have it as exhaust, I get negative air pressure and it attracts dust very quickly, which then forces me to not utilize my top 200mm fan. If I have it as an intake, I can get positive air pressure (less dust!) and use that top 200mm.

At least for my situation, having intake in the rear is better, since the rear of my case is literally right next to my window, so it can suck in very cold winter air and go out my top 200mm fan immediately without affecting other components. It might also help that I have a side panel intake(Antec Tricool), 2 front intakes (Antec Tricools) and a Yate Loon High Speed connected to the HD cage that cools my GPU, RAM, mobo (so Tricool>>YT High>>>mobo/gpu/RAM>>200mm top fan), so almost all of my components have cold air being blasted on them, despite some semi-warm air coming out of the rad.

Since it's winter right now, this setup works for me, but I'm not sure how well it will work in the summer, so I might switch it to exhaust depending on what works better when it's hot.

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Quick question..
Where do I get more screws when I want to attach a second fan?
Oh and what if I wanted longer screws?
Cheers.

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Any hardware/hobby store should carry them. They measure #6-32 by 1.25", though if you're thinking about having a fan+shroud you'll need #6-32 by 2.125" or 2.25".

I've been looking for a place that sells those longer ones for cheap, but I don't want to buy 350 of them like the one listing I see on ebay. Haven't tried my local Lowes or Osh yet, but Home Depot only carries up to 2".
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This is taken directly from Corsair's online store/website in reference to the 800D case:

"The power supply compartment, main compartment and the SATA bays each have dedicated cooling subsystems to prevent heat buildup.

A dust-filtered 140mm fan draws in cold air at the bottom of the case and exhausts it at the rear and top. This clever design forces fresh air directly over the graphics card and CPU."


And on this page of the same website corsair has a video they obviously apporoved where you can watch the H70 comparison against the Noctua....in which the guy describes one of the advantages corsair's product has is the ability to pull in fresh air from the top-rear.


Have you never heard of a marketing team?
I don't understand why you're giving carfanatic such a hard time here....He, some others, and myself have stayed active on this thread long, long after we considered our own setups to have reached optimal configuration so that we could provide some help and experienced advice to the constant influx of new users all pondering the same questions we have in the past 1000 or so pages.
I'm not saying you shouldn't try things out and see for yourself if that's what you feel inclined to do, I'm just saying that these questions are quite stale to some of us and we're all out for the same goal and on the same team.

Anyways, feel free to pick at anything that bothers you I guess....would be boring if nothing ever needed any explanation.^^
Hear, hear! Agree with Slimbrady and Carfanatic on this. Already debated heaps, especially in this forum. Do a search, or try the FAQ on the first page of this forum even. It's the very first topic. You can't miss it.
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I've also done this to my case (don't laugh )

The only way in for air is through the fans.
Eventually, I'm going to cut out of the casing in front of the bottom fan too.


Even the side door vents are closed up.
Not the prettiest job ever, but you can't see it when the computer is under the desk.


And as a result, these are my temps..
(I only let IBT run 4 times because I want to play BC2 Vietnam)


My CPU did not exceed 73C on any of the cores.

I think that's pretty good.
I like to always use at least 2 different programs to monitor my temps when stressing. I notice that on my rig HWmonitor reads about 2C lower load temps than every other program. When you get into the experimenting mode try and use the H50 as and intake and keep the front fans as intakes as well but uncover the vents on the side panel so the positive pressure of all the intake fans force the hot air out through the vents. Its worth a shot. It might help it might not but its easy enough to try so why not.
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I finally got my build Done... all I need now is a windowed Side panel
spec in the sig.

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