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Originally Posted by slimbrady View Post
This is taken directly from Corsair's online store/website in reference to the 800D case:

"The power supply compartment, main compartment and the SATA bays each have dedicated cooling subsystems to prevent heat buildup.

A dust-filtered 140mm fan draws in cold air at the bottom of the case and exhausts it at the rear and top. This clever design forces fresh air directly over the graphics card and CPU."


And on this page of the same website corsair has a video they obviously apporoved where you can watch the H70 comparison against the Noctua....in which the guy describes one of the advantages corsair's product has is the ability to pull in fresh air from the top-rear.


Have you never heard of a marketing team?
I don't understand why you're giving carfanatic such a hard time here....He, some others, and myself have stayed active on this thread long, long after we considered our own setups to have reached optimal configuration so that we could provide some help and experienced advice to the constant influx of new users all pondering the same questions we have in the past 1000 or so pages.
I'm not saying you shouldn't try things out and see for yourself if that's what you feel inclined to do, I'm just saying that these questions are quite stale to some of us and we're all out for the same goal and on the same team.

Anyways, feel free to pick at anything that bothers you I guess....would be boring if nothing ever needed any explanation.^^
That is what I was looking for. I wasn't trying to give him a hard time. I'm sorry it came across that way. I just wanted to find the best way to put mine in without having to reconfigure it over and over again.

Again, apologies to Carfanatic if he thought I was giving him a hard time.
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I finally got my build Done... all I need now is a windowed Side panel
spec in the sig.
I need a side window too!
That's my next project.


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Regarding that issue with the H50 as intake vs exhaust, I'm not really seeing a temp difference with intake and exhaust. If I have it as exhaust, I get negative air pressure and it attracts dust very quickly, which then forces me to not utilize my top 200mm fan. If I have it as an intake, I can get positive air pressure (less dust!) and use that top 200mm.

It might also help that I have a side panel intake(Antec Tricool), 2 front intakes (Antec Tricools) and a Yate Loon High Speed connected to the HD cage that cools my GPU, RAM, mobo (so Tricool>>YT High>>>mobo/gpu/RAM>>200mm top fan), so almost all of my components have cold air being blasted on them, despite some semi-warm air coming out of the rad.
With three intake fans and only two exhaust fans it seems odd you would have a negative pressure case unless that 200mm fan is really putting out a lot of CFM. Since you didn't list your 200mm fan it would be impossible to say for sure though.

Edit: Now that I looked at all of your fans you have and if your H50 fans still put out max CFM through the radiator(88cfm) the top 200mm fan would have to be putting out 149CFM+ to give you a negative pressure case.

If your top fan is the stock Antec Big Boy 200mm TriCool Fan on high it only puts out 134cfm so it still gives you a positive pressure case if you have the other three antec tricool fans on high and the H50 high speed yates as exhaust.
Edited by Carfanatic - 12/21/10 at 12:31pm
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With three intake fans and only two exhaust fans it seems odd you would have a negative pressure case unless that 200mm fan is really putting out a lot of CFM. Since you didn't list your 200mm fan it would be impossible to say for sure though.

Edit: Now that I looked at all of your fans you have and if your H50 fans still put out max CFM through the radiator(88cfm) the top 200mm fan would have to be putting out 149CFM+ to give you a negative pressure case.

If your top fan is the stock Antec Big Boy 200mm TriCool Fan on high it only puts out 134cfm so it still gives you a positive pressure case if you have the other three antec tricool fans on high and the H50 high speed yates as exhaust.
Hmm interesting findings, though I did fail to say that my PSU is also an exhaust, sucking air from the bottom and out the back. I do still have the stock Antec Big Boy fan on top, so I'll try exhaust again to see if there's negative pressure still. Only problem is that I don't always have my fans on high speed, so my tricools are usually on the lowest settings with the Big Boy at low or medium settings. Also my Yate Loons on the H50 only run at 2000 RPM vs the regular 2200 RPM because of Push/Pull, and sometimes I lower them down to 800-850 RPM when I don't want to hear the loud vacuum noise they produce.

Should I cut out of the rear fan grill on my Antec 902? I didn't have a problem with them when I had the Tricool on there, but now that my Yate Loons+H50 are attached to the rear, the Yate fan right next to the grill sounds much louder than the other Yates I have.
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Just wanted to add my .02c to the debate on which configuration gives the lowest temps based on MY particular setup. My sig has all the hardware information.

CPU temps using CPUID Hardware 1.17 all push/pull no shrouds.

Top mount
Intel burn Test: 79, 76, 72, 69
Prime large FFT: 65,64,61,60
ASUS Probe running Prime95 large FFT: cpu 73, MB 28, SB 42, NB 59, PW 49

Rear exhaust
Intel Burn Test: 78,76,71,69
Prime large FFT: 64,63,60,59
ASUS Probe running Prime95 large FFT: cpu 73, MB 28, SB 42, NB 59, PW 49

Rear intake
Intel Burn Test: 75, 72, 69, 66
Prime large FFT: 62, 61, 58, 58
ASUS Probe running Prime95 largeFFT: cpu 69, MB 28, SB 41, NB 58, PW 46

What is significant in MY particular case and hardware setup is the drop in cpu temps in Intel Burn Test AND south bridge, north bridge and power temps as rear intake!

These are the temps with Prime95 large FFT, CPUID and FurMark all running at the same time to see the effect of the video card on component temps, roughly a 2 to 3 degree rise.

CPUID cpu core temps from CPUID: 62,61,59,58
ASUS Probe: cpu 69, MB 31, SB 44, NB 60, PW 48.
Edited by clubfoot - 12/21/10 at 4:57pm
post #15526 of 28253
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Originally Posted by clubfoot View Post
Just wanted to add my .02c to the debate on which configuration gives the lowest temps based on MY particular setup. My sig has all the hardware information.

CPU temps using CPUID Hardware 1.17 all push/pull no shrouds.

Top mount
Intel burn Test: 79, 76, 72, 69
Prime large FFT: 65,64,61,60
ASUS Probe running Prime95 large FFT: cpu 73, MB 28, SB 42, NB 59, PW 49

Rear exhaust
Intel Burn Test: 78,76,71,69
Prime large FFT: 64,63,60,59
ASUS Probe running Prime95 large FFT: cpu 73, MB 28, SB 42, NB 59, PW 49

Rear intake
Intel Burn Test: 75, 72, 69, 66
Prime large FFT: 62, 61, 58, 58
ASUS Probe running Prime95 largeFFT: cpu 69, MB 28, SB 41, NB 58, PW 46

What is significant in MY particular case and hardware setup is the drop in cpu temps in Intel Burn Test AND south bridge, north bridge and power temps as rear intake!
Nice test. I have a few questions though lol. How close were the ambient temps on each test? Where do you have your case? Is it out in the open where the back of it gets good air circulation? I'd like to try the rear intake for my H50 but my case sits under my desk and the back of it is only about 8" away from a wall so I'm not sure that my H50 would be pulling in much cooler air from the back of my case cause air don't circulate too good under my desk and between the wall. If I could mount my H50 on the front then I would do it but I can't with my case with out some major modding that I don't really have the time for now.
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The test took about an hour in total so very little change in ambient and my case sits in the open on my desk with lots of free air for circulation.
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the lowest temps based on MY particular setup
As you phrase it. It won't be the same for everyone. One degree is possibly not a statistically significant variation. Probably have to do a lot of repeats or do testing in a temp controlled environment to be sure.

Usual other factors to consider: Whether graphics card has external exhaust, or is heat dispersed in case, however many other fans are in exhaust mode - all that sort of thing.

In the end, whatever works best for you. Good to see people testing and not just automatically accepting anyway.
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Just wanted to add my .02c to the debate on which configuration gives the lowest temps based on MY particular setup. My sig has all the hardware information.

CPU temps using CPUID Hardware 1.17 all push/pull no shrouds.

Top mount
Intel burn Test: 79, 76, 72, 69
Prime large FFT: 65,64,61,60
ASUS Probe running Prime95 large FFT: cpu 73, MB 28, SB 42, NB 59, PW 49

Rear exhaust
Intel Burn Test: 78,76,71,69
Prime large FFT: 64,63,60,59
ASUS Probe running Prime95 large FFT: cpu 73, MB 28, SB 42, NB 59, PW 49

Rear intake
Intel Burn Test: 75, 72, 69, 66
Prime large FFT: 62, 61, 58, 58
ASUS Probe running Prime95 largeFFT: cpu 69, MB 28, SB 41, NB 58, PW 46

What is significant in MY particular case and hardware setup is the drop in cpu temps in Intel Burn Test AND south bridge, north bridge and power temps as rear intake!

These are the temps with Prime95 large FFT, CPUID and FurMark all running at the same time to see the effect of the video card on component temps, roughly a 2 to 3 degree rise.

CPUID cpu core temps from CPUID: 62,61,59,58
ASUS Probe: cpu 69, MB 31, SB 44, NB 60, PW 48.
Intake is the best setup no doubt about it , iv mentioned this heaps of times but ppl are still sayin you wont see much difference you will when your room temp is 20c and your case temps are 25+c
    
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As you phrase it. It won't be the same for everyone. One degree is possibly not a statistically significant variation. Probably have to do a lot of repeats or do testing in a temp controlled environment to be sure.

Usual other factors to consider: Whether graphics card has external exhaust, or is heat dispersed in case, however many other fans are in exhaust mode - all that sort of thing.

In the end, whatever works best for you. Good to see people testing and not just automatically accepting anyway.
Air from outside the case will always be better than air inside the case , the extra 5c your adding to your case using the h50 as an intake is not even worth the worry .. unless you have real bad airflow you wont have a problem .

Its just common sense that the air is going to be cooler outside than the air hovering around electrical components . If i switched my setup to exhaust i guarentee my temps will rise , case temps are usually 3-5c higher than room temp and thats if you have good airflow , its much worse if you dont .. not everyone has an antec 1200 with 11 fans like i do , some pc's get extremely warm after hours of use , imagine the rad trying to cool down from the warm air in ur case , it just doesnt work like that so stop saying it does .
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