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Air from outside the case will always sometimes be better than air inside the case

Its just common sense that the air is going to be cooler outside than the air hovering around electrical components .
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Intake is the best setup FOR ME no doubt about it , iv mentioned this heaps of times but ppl are still sayin you wont see much difference you will when your room temp is 20c and your case temps are 25+c


Fixed your statements.

You need to add for your particular setup that is the case.

I have two video cards in SLI and my power supply venting hot air right below where the H50 would be mounted so the air as intake for me would be 5-15C warmer than the inside of my case. My ambient is usually 22C year around but the temp right behind my case just above my video cards and power supply is ~35C at least right now while my case temp is 26C.

So hmm 35C air to cool if I used rear intake or 26C from inside the case no need to wonder which one would work the best there.

Just take a little time to think that not everyone's setup is the same so we can never say one particular setup is the best no matter what.
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Air from outside the case will always be better than air inside the case , the extra 5c your adding to your case using the h50 as an intake is not even worth the worry .. unless you have real bad airflow you wont have a problem .

Its just common sense that the air is going to be cooler outside than the air hovering around electrical components . If i switched my setup to exhaust i guarentee my temps will rise , case temps are usually 3-5c higher than room temp and thats if you have good airflow , its much worse if you dont .. not everyone has an antec 1200 with 11 fans like i do , some pc's get extremely warm after hours of use , imagine the rad trying to cool down from the warm air in ur case , it just doesnt work like that so stop saying it does .
Have to agree with Carfanatic.

Rear Intake
better for the cpu - maybe
better for everything else inside the case - maybe not. (Feel free to pump some extra rad heat in though)
better for Corsair marketing - probably

For almost as long as PCs have existed airflow has been directed from lower front to upper rear. Could be good reasons for that. Maybe hot air rises. Maybe the Corsair marketing department is not the new messiah of airflow.

Before I changed over to custom water I tried both intake and exhaust with my H50. It made no difference to my cpu temps, but intake made my NB/MCH, graphics and system temps higher, so I used the exhaust setup. That is how it worked for me.

How it works for you won't change that "so stop saying it does".
Edited by alancsalt - 12/21/10 at 7:33pm
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Fixed your statements.

You need to add for your particular setup that is the case.

I have two video cards in SLI and my power supply venting hot air right below where the H50 would be mounted so the air as intake for me would be 5-15C warmer than the inside of my case. My ambient is usually 22C year around but the temp right behind my case just above my video cards and power supply is ~35C at least right now while my case temp is 26C.

So hmm 35C air to cool if I used rear intake or 26C from inside the case no need to wonder which one would work the best there.

Just take a little time to think that not everyone's setup is the same so we can never say one particular setup is the best no matter what.
You may aswel of gone air cooling if you wanted to cool down your cpu via the air inside ur case ... I understand u have 2 nvidia gfx cards which heat up like a ***** but doesnt it sound logical to u that the rad should be sucking in the coolest air in can be which is room temp .. 22c is better than 26c thats 4c off your load temps already
    
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Have to agree with Carfanatic.

Rear Intake
better for the cpu - maybe
better for everything else inside the case - maybe not. (Feel free to pump some extra rad heat in though)
better for Corsair marketing - probably

For almost as long as PCs have existed airflow has been directed from lower front to upper rear. Could be good reasons for that. Maybe hot air rises. Maybe the Corsair marketing department is not the new messiah of airflow.

Before I changed over to custom water I tried both intake and exhaust with my H50. It made no difference to my cpu temps, but intake made my NB/MCH, graphics and system temps higher, so I used the exhaust setup. That is how it worked for me.

How it works for you won't change that "so stop saying it does".
Ok whats your room temp and whats your case temp ? i find it hard to believe there was "no difference" between intake and exhaust that sounds wrong .. there is no chance your case temps are better than outside the case , so it doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out which is going to provide u with cooler air .. Unless u have 2 gfxs cards in sli exhausting out the back u shouldnt have the rad there anyway , better off intaking from the front . See what i mean by the h50 has potential , you just got to use it like its meant to be . Its a radiator the possibilities are endless , sticking it in a 30c case and using it as an exhaust is not going to give you the best results end of story .

Your pc parts wont die with an extra few degrees , thats nonsense.
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You may aswel of gone air cooling if you wanted to cool down your cpu via the air inside ur case ... I understand u have 2 nvidia gfx cards which heat up like a ***** but doesnt it sound logical to u that the rad should be sucking in the coolest air in can be which is room temp .. 22c is better than 26c thats 4c off your load temps already
Ah you never asked my current setup....

I have front intake for my H50 so 22C temps to cool it down and by following the way my case air flow should be it keeps everything else cooler as well. Rear intake not only increased the temps of my CPU thanks to my setup but it also increased my case temps by a lot. As front intake not only did I lower my CPU temps over either rear setup but my case temps didn't increase over my old CPU air cooler at all.

Most everyone is here to help each other to have their own optimal setup but, there are a few here that just seem they want to argue even when they don't have a leg to stand on.

If you don't have the exact setup of someone else there is no way you can tell them the best setup no matter what. You can make suggestions based on what your setup is and what works for you but the best suggestion is always to give your opinion on what you think is best for them and then tell them their results may vary and to try it all the different ways for themselves and then they can see for themselves what is best.
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Your pc parts wont die with an extra few degrees , thats nonsense.
It all depends on your setup if you have video cards that use case air to cool themselves and don't exhaust out the back then a few degrees can easily turn into 10-15C so again a few degrees might not make a difference for your setup but it may for someone else. Also, since the hot air from the video cards inside the case rises with the H50 as intake it has no where to go.
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More bits get hot than just the cpu.
Once air has gone through a rad it is no longer "coolest". It is warmed/heated.

If you have heaps of fans blowing into a case there is no longer a big temp difference between inside and outside. It all depends on individual setup.
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So what would be the ideal set up for my case?

The red lines are the direction of my air flow. It starts where my intake is at, then moves to where my case would normally have two fans. The back being 120mm and the top being 140mm.

Would you suggest I use the H70 at the rear exhaust port in an intake, or exhaust form?

Thanks

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Walking right into a "spirited debate" on the subject.

I tried a few variations, but in the end I had a 120mm 50cfm fan taking up three 5.25 bays blowing straight across to an H50 in exhaust, with same type of 120mm fan and a 1" shroud.
My CM692 has a top 140mm fan as well, and at the time, a 120mm fan blowing up from the bottom, and the usual front bottom fan cooling the HDDs. I also needed a fan pointing at the NB/MCH to keep its temps down, as it no longer had the air-spill from the stock fan and could get quite hot when gaming or stress testing.

Core temp and Realtemp are probably more accurate than HWMonitor. Be guided by the temps you get.

More than 50cfm can be noisy. If you hate noise that will affect your choices.

Given that no two cases are quite the same, just use your own best judgment of what works for you and you'll soon sort an appropriate solution.
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So what would be the ideal set up for my case?

The red lines are the direction of my air flow. It starts where my intake is at, then moves to where my case would normally have two fans. The back being 120mm and the top being 140mm.

Would you suggest I use the H70 at the rear exhaust port in an intake, or exhaust form?

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Gohan_Nightwing
I don't know the measurements of your case so don't know if it would work but I always suggest that if you can put it as front intake.

If you cannot reach the front to mount it there then it is easy enough to try both exhaust and intake at the rear of the case to check what works best for you. Remember to get readings of all your motherboard temp sensors to do a total comparison not just the one CPU temp.
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