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As a soon to be h70 owner I'm choosing from two diffrent fans:

Akasa Viper PWM

Gelid wing 12p. PWM

The numbers on these fans says that the viper will be a better as for cooling but the Gelid will be somewhat more silent.

Any shout outs on these or will any of these be just fine?

Searched this thread and saw that ppl been happy about their Gelids. Didnt found much about the viper other than it "would" be good.

Thanks in advance guys.
    
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post #16522 of 28247
try uk 3k fans
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or delta fans
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j/k, gelids are freaking kewl
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Oh joy.

I got a pretty good overclock of my cpu, almost 1GHz stable. I was a very happy camper, smiling because I was only planning on going up to 3GHz, but got 3.375GHz with a max temp of 66c. That's pretty good considering my stock Intel cooler was going up to 72c loaded at stock speed.

So, here I was smiling away and I thought, hey, maybe I should check my peripherals to make sure they're working properly (I had a problem with a USB 3.0 card on my old ASUS main board when it was slightly overclocked).

So, I did a benchmark on my Patriot Inferno SSD....and it sucked. I was benching at 248MB/s, and it was benching at about 184MB/s after the overclock. I also checked my 1TB WD 7200 RPM hard drive, which was 99MB/s before the overclock and it went down to about 85MB/s. Even my external USB 3.0 hard drive was benching slower.

What gives? I've looked through the BIOS but cannot find anything relating to clocking the SATA ports (are they not just on the PCI bus?).

What should I do to correct the hard drive transfer speeds while the board is overclocked? I made sure during the overclock not to mess with the PCI-E and PCI bus clocks. As you can see in the picture they are still the stock speeds.

As an aside, check out the reading on the +12V. Lol, it goes crazy! Some times it reads 6V (in multiple programs) and sometimes it says 16V. Something crazy going on there. I have brought my digital VOM home from work and tested it. It's a steady 12.06V all the time. The BIOS reads it correctly as well. Strange glitch.

The other thing I thought I would mention, as I have alluded to before, is how well the PCM fans are working out. During this overclock, you can see the FAN1 speed (CPU fan header controlling two Scythe PWM fans) is up to 1865 RMP. I actually saw it go up to just over 1900 RMP. The fans are rated at about 1900 but testing them with my fan controller they both top out at over 2100 RPM, so there's still a ways to go before they reach max. They ARE quite loud when running anything over about 1600 RPM.

Hey, just my 2 bits worth about cable management. Although I agree it's MOSTLY aesthetic, even if there is a ONE degree difference in temp, it's worth it. We're on an overclocking site right now talking about things like which thermal paste will reduce your temps a couple of degrees. Doing what we are all doing EVERY degree is important.
I have to agree though, that if you have a small case and what someone aptly referred to as a "rats nest" of cables, I have no doubt you would be able to see a temperature difference under those conditions. It's not just how much air is entering the case and how much is leaving, it's also the flow. You can develop hot spots that don't get any circulation if there are cables blocking the area. This hot spot may not even show up in your readings if you have no sensor in that area, but it COULD lead to some components running warmer with no way to tell. This is especially true for people with multiple older IDE hard drives and a floppy drive with their wide flat cables.

If anyone doubts this, consider that air operates in a similar fashion to fluids. There are websites out there that specifically deal with fluid flow under varying conditions. Also, for anyone who has taken 2nd year college physics you have also likely taken some fluid dynamics studies. Those studies likely apply as much to air as they do to fluids.

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So, IMHO, even though cable management may be mostly aesthetic, I believe there is also a practical component to it as well.

Edited by Mergatroid - 2/17/11 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by Mergatroid View Post
Oh joy.

I got a pretty good overclock of my cpu, almost 1GHz stable. I was a very happy camper, smiling because I was only planning on going up to 3GHz, but got 3.375GHz with a max temp of 66c. That's pretty good considering my stock Intel cooler was going up to 72c loaded at stock speed.

So, here I was smiling away and I thought, hey, maybe I should check my peripherals to make sure they're working properly (I had a problem with a USB 3.0 card on my old ASUS main board when it was slightly overclocked).

So, I did a benchmark on my Patriot Inferno SSD....and it sucked. I was benching at 248MB/s, and it was benching at about 184MB/s after the overclock. I also checked my 1TB WD 7200 RPM hard drive, which was 99MB/s before the overclock and it went down to about 85MB/s. Even my external USB 3.0 hard drive was benching slower.

What gives? I've looked through the BIOS but cannot find anything relating to clocking the SATA ports (are they not just on the PCI bus?).

What should I do to correct the hard drive transfer speeds while the board is overclocked? I made sure during the overclock not to mess with the PCI-E and PCI bus clocks. As you can see in the picture they are still the stock speeds.

As an aside, check out the reading on the +12V. Lol, it goes crazy! Some times it reads 6V (in multiple programs) and sometimes it says 16V. Something crazy going on there. I have brought my digital VOM home from work and tested it. It's a steady 12.06V all the time. The BIOS reads it correctly as well. Strange glitch.

The other thing I thought I would mention, as I have alluded to before, is how well the PCM fans are working out. During this overclock, you can see the FAN1 speed (CPU fan header controlling two Scythe PWM fans) is up to 1865 RMP. I actually saw it go up to just over 1900 RMP. The fans are rated at about 1900 but testing them with my fan controller they both top out at over 2100 RPM, so there's still a ways to go before they reach max. They ARE quite loud when running anything over about 1600 RPM.

Hey, just my 2 bits worth about cable management. Although I agree it's MOSTLY aesthetic, even if there is a ONE degree difference in temp, it's worth it. We're on an overclocking site right now talking about things like which thermal paste will reduce your temps a couple of degrees. Doing what we are all doing EVERY degree is important.
I have to agree though, that if you have a small case and what someone aptly referred to as a "rats nest" of cables, I have no doubt you would be able to see a temperature difference under those conditions. It's not just how much air is entering the case and how much is leaving, it's also the flow. You can develop hot spots that don't get any circulation if there are cables blocking the area. This hot spot may not even show up in your readings if you have no sensor in that area, but it COULD lead to some components running warmer with no way to tell. This is especially true for people with multiple older IDE hard drives and a floppy drive with their wide flat cables.

If anyone doubts this, consider that air operates in a similar fashion to fluids. There are websites out there that specifically deal with fluid flow under varying conditions. Also, for anyone who has taken 2nd year college physics you have also likely taken some fluid dynamics studies. Those studies likely apply as much to air as they do to fluids.

Think about the various shapes they have given the rear ends of cars over the years, and any wind tunnel tests you may have seen in your TV watching or Internet travels. You can easily see how air turbulence can be affected by the smallest changes in the design of the rear of the vehicle. You can actually create areas in the rear where no air is flowing. Unless you have an instrument there to detect this, you'd never even know it.

So, IMHO, even though cable management may be mostly aesthetic, I believe there is also a practical component to it as well.
I think you posted this in the wrong thread...
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I think you posted this in the wrong thread...
Technically, perhaps. But considering I was also replying to posts talking about cable management, and also considering I would not be doing any overclocking without the Corsair H70, and also considering I was talking about temps as other people are doing, I think that is debatable.

However, I am willing to repost elsewhere if asked to do so.

Edit. I can see your point. The first 1/4 of the message could have been moved to another thread, but if you read my prior posts you would see that it is all interrelated to my installation of the H70 and the PWM fans.
Edited by Mergatroid - 2/17/11 at 6:41pm
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Pretty good success with my H50. Installed two Thermaltake fans from Radio Shack, 78CFM. Not really quiet fans, but not super noisy... if you get my drift. Push pull config, and I've got the cooling solution mounted to my window, so the airflow from the radiator blows down directly on my motherboard.

Prime95 runs at ~51C max under full load, 1.43vcore. And since my motherboard is now cooled by this system as well, my motherboard has yet to exceed 30C. Memory is cold as hell at 1.7V

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I've gotten mixed results with my H70 since I started pushing up clock speeds. At under load at stock speeds, stays very cool. As soon as I start pushing up fsb and multipliers, the temps rise exponentially. Roughly 10c for every 100Mhz oc. Unfortunately, I don't like temps north of 62c and to keep my load temps under, I must back off to apprx 3.150Ghz (14 x 225) max. Not horrible for a stable oc, but not an incredible feat, either. I may have to end up experimenting with an additional reservoir, and I'm definately going to upgrade the proc to one that is made to run at higher stock speeds. The ol' Athlon can retire into a simple life of running BOINC or some other worthy cause. I think that the H70 will be more comfortable cooling a stock processor running under full load than a overclocked one.
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I've gotten mixed results with my H70 since I started pushing up clock speeds. At under load at stock speeds, stays very cool. As soon as I start pushing up fsb and multipliers, the temps rise exponentially. Roughly 10c for every 100Mhz oc. Unfortunately, I don't like temps north of 62c and to keep my load temps under, I must back off to apprx 3.150Ghz (14 x 225) max. Not horrible for a stable oc, but not an incredible feat, either. I may have to end up experimenting with an additional reservoir, and I'm definately going to upgrade the proc to one that is made to run at higher stock speeds. The ol' Athlon can retire into a simple life of running BOINC or some other worthy cause. I think that the H70 will be more comfortable cooling a stock processor running under full load than a overclocked one.
Thats odd because my H50 could keep my i5 750 @4.0 around 60c full load, And my i7 875K @4.0 HT on at around 65c full load
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[QUOTE=bckai;12410501]Have you tried putting your ear close to it? Kind of like a continuous clicking noise at about 10Hz.

Someone made a video of it and put the mic right up to it.



Umm, I play bass guitar, have excellent hearing, and can't hear at that frequency. 10cps is below the audible threshold of human perception. I must have one of the quiet H70's, even with the fans turned down below 900 rpm, no sound from the pump, whatsoever. Hope you get 'er figured out, though. Could possibly be cavitation depending on how it is mounted?
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Thats odd because my H50 could keep my i5 750 @4.0 around 60c full load, And my i7 875K @4.0 HT on at around 65c full load
The first thing I have done is losen the mounting ring and try to spread the tim around while warm. Didn't make a difference, so next step will be to polish up the waterblock/pump and make sure I'm getting good contact between the cpu and cooler. I too was at a loss, as I was thoroughly impressed with the cooling at stock speeds under load. Running prime95 at 3.3Ghz sent the core temps soaring to 80c. Had to kill the power. Perhaps this chip is just "warm", and won't take much. Or maybe, the temperature sensors are poorly calibrated. Don't know yet, time will tell.
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