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does it make a difference when the radiator is mounted on the rear of the case and the tubing is on the top or the bottom?
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Generally no it does not matter. if its on the rear of the case then its usually pushing air out so it will have slightly warmer air rather then the cool air for intake.

Tubes dont matter...
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Hey guys, I recently made some changes regarding my H50; where as originally it was mounting on the rear of my case, running as an exhaust...

Well I decided to experiment a little, and moved the Rad to the front of my Case, mounting it into the 5.25 bays (zip ties!). I removed the shroud from the exhaust side of the rad and mounted my R4 directly onto the Rad, then left the intake Shroud and intake R4 fan as they were.

Then I mounted an R4 that I took off my side panel, and put it directly on the rear of the case to run as exhaust.

I've a remarkable success in that my temps dropped down nearly 8c while idling on the Windows desktop, and under moderate load my temps went down 4c... and under extreme heavy (Prime95) load I've seen a 10 - 12c drop!

However, I am looking in my BIOS at the various fan speeds, and I am curious about something...

Now, the H50 Pump should be plugged into the POWER FAN on the Motherboard...

The intake Fan on the Rad should be plugged into the CPU FAN, on the Motherboard...

Now I have the Exhaust fan on the RAD plugged into CHASSIS FAN 1.

The rear case exhaust Fan plugged into CHASSIS 2.

Now here's my question...

In the BIOS my fan speeds read as follows.

CPU FAN - 1967 RPM
CHASSIS 1 - 1934 RPM
CHASSIS 2 - 1829 RPM
POWER FAN - 1379 RPM

Now remember, CPU Fan is the Intake Fan on the Rad, the Exhaust Fan on the Rad (push/pull) is CHASSIS 2.

There is a good difference of nearly 140 RPM...

Should they not be roughly equal, or is that ok? Or is this just because the Pull/Exhaust Fan on the Rad is just having to work harder and so is running a tad slower?
And as well as Mergatroid's comment, you've always got the manufacturer's tolerance of + or - 5% of specified speed ...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mergatroid View Post
I think you're right. I have cut a hole in the bottom of my case and added a fan there. The only way for it to get a good air flow is to let the front of my case overhang the front of my desk, otherwise there's no path for it to pull air from.

I've found that if I lay it flat on a table, the RPM of the fan goes down about 100RPM because it can't pull any air, but if I move it forward so it overhands again the RPMs shoot up 100RPM and the air flow really starts moving well.

You could always try swapping chassis fan 1 and chassis fan 2 since the RPM on fan1 seems closer to CPU fan, then you'd know for sure if the replacement fan also slowed down.
You could put some feet or castors on it?

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Originally Posted by Shneakypete View Post
does it make a difference when the radiator is mounted on the rear of the case and the tubing is on the top or the bottom?
It may not matter, but I preferred the tubes at the bottom so that any air in the system would be trapped at the top and not recirculate.
Edited by alancsalt - 3/12/11 at 4:32pm
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[QUOTE=alancsalt;12708967]You could put some feet or castors on it?




I have mine set up this way after installing a bottom mounted fan inside the case facing toward the gpu.Have about a 1 1/2 inch gap between desk and case.Works well.
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Originally Posted by cjc75 View Post
In the BIOS my fan speeds read as follows.

CPU FAN - 1967 RPM
CHASSIS 1 - 1934 RPM
CHASSIS 2 - 1829 RPM
POWER FAN - 1379 RPM

Now remember, CPU Fan is the Intake Fan on the Rad, the Exhaust Fan on the Rad (push/pull) is CHASSIS 2.

There is a good difference of nearly 140 RPM...

Should they not be roughly equal, or is that ok? Or is this just because the Pull/Exhaust Fan on the Rad is just having to work harder and so is running a tad slower?
One fan is driving the other fan, hence the slight speed variations. The Intake is driving the Exhaust so the Exhaust doesn't expend it's full energy and will report slightly lower speed. If they were side by side I'd be willing to bet that you wouldn't see but ~5rpm reported at any given time.

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Are these really much better than air cooling? Are these a nice niche between watercooling and air cooling?
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Are these really much better than air cooling? Are these a nice niche between watercooling and air cooling?
I would say occupy same cooling territory as top end air. Some top air coolers are a smidgeon better, but these take up less room, and don't conflict with tall ram sticks....

Rasa is good value.

Your choice.
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I would say occupy same cooling territory as top end air. Some top air coolers are a smidgeon better, but these take up less room, and don't conflict with tall ram sticks....

Rasa is good value.

Your choice.
Well if I had to choose on a $70 budget in a CM 690 II Adv. would this be a better bet?
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Originally Posted by HOTDOGS View Post
Well if I had to choose on a $70 budget in a CM 690 II Adv. would this be a better bet?
I believe that it is. Especially if you have some cheap fans to make due until you can get whatever you want for Push Pull setup. I got Yate-Loon High Speeds in Red LED. If I had to do it over again, I woulda got my fan controller too or gone with the Medium Silents instead. These things can be noisy as all git out at 100% but not quiet enough running at 60 or 70%.

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AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Crosshair IV Formula Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 
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Corsair Dominator G. Skill Ripjaws X G. Skill x2 HITACHI 1TB Deskstars 1TB RAID0 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
ASUS DRW-24B1ST  Swiftech 6950/6870 GPU Heatsink Swiftech 6950/6870 GPU Heatsink Monsoon 1/2"x5/8" PETG White Hardline tubing. 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Monsoon Economy Hardline fittings EK Dual DDC V2 top Swiftech Pump DDC-1T (2) Liquid Fusion V Double helix Reservoir 
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Yate Loon 120x20 (D12SM-12C) Medium Speed Silen... EK Supreme HF Classified EK Thermosphere GPU Block EK Thermosphere GPU Block 
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Win7 64 bit Ultimate OEM Asus VH222H Black HDMI Widescreen Logitech the OCZ went buhbye adios. Don't know ... Corsair CMPSU HX 850w Modular 
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