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1. From what I've read the Gentle Tyhpoons are the best for a rad setup. If you can find them. A lot of people are suggesting the Yate Loons fans too for a budget rad fan.

2. Lapping usually helps yes. Like maybe 3C max under load?

4. Yeah that is high. At 4.0 GHz on my 950 my (CPU) idle temps were never above ambient. It was at ambient whenever my computer was on. Full load never go above 48C CPU, the max core was 61C.

5. How warm is the room because that will be a big factor in how cool you can get it.
The room is around 75 degrees, CPU is @41 but my cores are 1-35 2-31 3-34 4-36 5-27 6-34.
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Do I need a different form of bracket for a P67 board? Is the H70 worth the price difference?
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So the popular fan census for the H50 is the Scythe Gentle Typhoon (1850rpm)? Will 2 of those out perform 2 Blademasters (2000rpm)?
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The LGA 1155 and LGA 1156 share the same mount?! Still from reading about the H70 being "worth the price difference" I haven't found anything that shows it is significantly better. Any opinions? Also if I mount it on the back as my CM 690 II will I be able to still mount two 140s on top? Will I need too?
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HI everyone, first post here. I just picked up a H70 and got it installed last week. Idle temps are about the same, load temps was down 8c. I have a couple of questions if you guys don't mine. I am open for anything, so feel free. Right now I have a HAF X case with all the fans set for intake with the H70 mounted on the rear as exhaust.
1. Has anyone every tried the Noctua P14, the 140mm that fit 120mm holes with it.
2. Will lapping the base help any?
3. I read a lot where people recommend other kits, not ready for a full water loop yet, but open to the idea. Just unsure what would work best.
4. Right now I am only running a 4.0ghz over clock and i am at 40c idle which I don't like. I want to run a 4.2 daily overclock and push it higher to test and just see how far i can go.
5. I am a warm room, where sometimes the wife turns the fire place on and the computer only sets a few feet from it, so any suggestions I am open.

My thoughts is that I am going to have to do the full water loop thing, but I don't have $500 to pay for full set up at the moment. Any suggestions to get the best out of what I have or the a course of action that is not only good, but not to high in price. my system should be in my sig.
Disable the fireplace. Problem solved.

Oh and lapping does help and more than 3c worth. Problem is I can't really tell you what lapping an Intel CPU would do for your temps. I can tell you from experience however that it's more than 3c. My lapp gave me more than 10c in lower temp. And every lapp will differ due to location humidity and ambient temps.

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I would actually very much recommend relocating your computer. Having it sitting a few feet from an in use fire place is not a good plan. Especially if your wife's idea of a fire is anything like my dad's. >.>
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1. From what I've read the Gentle Tyhpoons are the best for a rad setup. If you can find them. A lot of people are suggesting the Yate Loons fans too for a budget rad fan.
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So the popular fan census for the H50 is the Scythe Gentle Typhoon (1850rpm)? Will 2 of those out perform 2 Blademasters (2000rpm)?
GTs are definitely not the best rad fans. In fact, they're only average quality for rad use; and will not improve cooling over the stock fans. Although they have high CFM, they have a very low Static Pressure; and Static Pressure is the most important spec for a rad fan, or high-end heatsink fan for that matter. They're much better as case fans, where SP is not important, but CFM is.

Static Pressure is a measure how much force is applied to the air. When pushing air through an open space like the inside of a case, there isn't much resistance. By contrast, watercooling rads, and higher-end air coolers, have quite a bit of resistance to airflow. If your fans don't have enough pressure to force the air past that resistance, all they're going to do is push the majority of the air around in a circle instead of through the rad. This is known as the "stall pressure".

SP is not a huge problem for a narrow rad like the H50 and H60; but it is definitely a significant issue for wider ones like the H70 (and higher-end watercooling kits).

The reason that GT AP-15s are so popular for the Corsair coolers is because they have roughly equal performance to the stock fans, while having a much lower noise level. Despite their high CFM, they're not necessary pushing all that air through the rad, because of their low SP. A lot of it is simply wasted; but enough gets through to maintain an adequate performance (again, this is less important for narrow rads). Yate Loons have a good SP, and perform better than the stock fans; but they also have a significantly higher noise level.

My personal preference for my H70 is Akasa Vipers. They have a similar CFM to the GT AP-15s; but with a substantially higher SP, which means more of the air is going through the rad, instead of just being pushed around. They have a slightly higher noise profile than the GTs; but lower than the stock fans or Yate Loons. And they cost about the same or less than the GTs. The Noctua fans are even better for rads; but they'll cost quite a bit more, and generate more noise.
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I'm debating between these 2 fans:

I hear Yate Loons are good (I also like them because they are red and match my lights).
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10..._D12SM-12.html

Or these Blade Masters. I actually have 2 of these at the moment but should I replace them with the Yate Loons for better performance and noise level? I'm more in it for performance but less noise would be nice.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-069-_-Product
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The LGA 1155 and LGA 1156 share the same mount?! Still from reading about the H70 being "worth the price difference" I haven't found anything that shows it is significantly better. Any opinions? Also if I mount it on the back as my CM 690 II will I be able to still mount two 140s on top? Will I need too?
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HI everyone, first post here. I just picked up a H70 and got it installed last week. Idle temps are about the same, load temps was down 8c. I have a couple of questions if you guys don't mine. I am open for anything, so feel free. Right now I have a HAF X case with all the fans set for intake with the H70 mounted on the rear as exhaust.
1. Has anyone every tried the Noctua P14, the 140mm that fit 120mm holes with it.
2. Will lapping the base help any?
1. I haven't tried the P14s; but they should be good fans for the H70, good Static Pressure and CFM, low noise. And Noctua components are typically very high quality.

2. Lapping will help considerably. The base is very rough, and substantially concave. After lapping mine and upgrading the fans, I saw a 10C-12C drop in temps (my H70 is mounted as exhaust, same as yours). You may not see that much of a drop, since your ambient temps are higher than mine; but you should still a substantantial drop in both idle and load temps.
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