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Originally Posted by Soulniz View Post
Hey guys, is this the best way to place the fans:

Fan1---->>Radiator<<----Fan2
erm .....if the arrows indicate the direction the fan is blowing air then no.

you want:

Fan1 >>>> rad >>>>fan2

Ie "push pull"

but yes you want to sandwich the rad between fans.
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So both fans should be blowing into the case?
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So both fans should be blowing into the case?
or out of the case but yes they should both be blowing in the same direction
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@Dr.Gumby... Exactly. My point however was that the Kuhler can't be significantly different from its cousins because its made by the same company. About the only way it could be that different is if the liquid material was changed. Which is doubtful.

I also never fired up the stock fan. I hacked out its guts and mated it under my Yate Loon Push fan. So I guess TECHNICALLY I'm using it.

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The Antec doesn't out perform the H50. I have the latest issue of MaximumPC and they compare the H60 to it. Gave the Kuhler a 9 and the H60 an 8.

The Kuhler is nothing more than an H70 pump mated to an H50 Rad. So no, it doesn't beat the earlier models. The Kuhler is also manufactured by the company who makes the earlier Hydro Series systems.

~Ceadder
I was curious so I went looking. According to this pretty well-done test, the thin rad Kuhler 620 beats the Corsair H50, and the thick rad Kuhler 920 beats the Corsair H70. It's a fairly comprehensive test he performed. Without all the units here to test, it's hard to argue with his data.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=5

@Dr.GumbyM.D.

"all of these benchmark reviews generally use stock fans and stock configurations. How many people on this forum debating temps between these products are going to leave their setups as stock?"

I really don't think that's the point at all. Look at the H70. Lots of people use the stock fans and the resister cable that comes with it. Just look back through all the messages in this thread. True, lots of people use their own fans as well (I also went the PWM path with a PWM splitter cable). However, you see lots of messages from people using the stock fans, especially on the H70 since it comes with two fans. Look at the reviews done by consumers on the sites that sell the coolers. Lots of people not even setting up the H50 with two fans because they don't know any better.

Stock coolers are easy to compare because they all have a set price. You get what they come with, and you pay what they cost. Most people just install and are done with it. These people need to know, which cooler to purchase for their budget, not which cooler to modify.

In this case, the Huhler 920 and the Corsair H70 compare great because they are so similar. You're comparing the entire cooler package, not just the rad and the pump. That includes the fans they come with. However, in the testing done above the author actually installed one single Delta High Speed fan on both coolers, and the Kuhler still out-performed the H70. That test puts both units on even ground (but them again, I still think the stock units are a fair comparison).

If you want to compare these types of coolers, you only have two choices: Stock and Modified.

We see the stock comparison above, but if we're going to talk modified you have to modify both coolers the same. You have to lap both coolers and use the same fans and shrouds or the comparison is no good.

IMHO, the test done at the link above levels the playing field fairly well by using the Delta fan test, and also shows a Stock comparison, and in both cases the Corsair is left behind. The only thing I would have done differently if I were in his position is that I would have tried the Corsair fans on the Kuhler and the Kuhler fans on the H70 (the tester says the Kuhler fans are way noisier and have a higher cfm rating) just to see what the effect on temps would have been. After all, the temperature difference diminished a bit when both units were using the Delta fan.

I love my H70, but I cannot argue with the test results without performing them myself.

Note the author seems to think the tubing is higher flow rate and the pump may be different. I don't know about the pump, but the tubing looks different.
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The Antec doesn't out perform the H50. I have the latest issue of MaximumPC and they compare the H60 to it. Gave the Kuhler a 9 and the H60 an 8.

The Kuhler is nothing more than an H70 pump mated to an H50 Rad. So no, it doesn't beat the earlier models. The Kuhler is also manufactured by the company who makes the earlier Hydro Series systems.

~Ceadder
The antec does better than H70 with the same fan, and nearly the same at stock.

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With its dual, high performance fans (according to Cooler Master, each fan is rated at 93CFM at full speed, for an aggregate airflow of over 180CFM) the Cooler Master V6 GT takes the lead here, keeping the blistering hot Core i7-950 4.7 degrees Celsius cooler than the Kühler. What's amazing here, though, is that the thin-radiator, single-fan Antec Kühler performs within a fraction of a degree of the double-thickness radiator, dual-fanned Corsair H70.
-benchmarkreviews

The antec units are asetek's best offering right now when it comes to these type of units. A better coldplate and different tubing improve performance drastically. Corsair decided to go with Coolit, and the Antec 620 beats the H60 in every way imaginable. Must be kicking themselves in the arse.

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When it comes to performance the Antec Kuhler H2O 620 was up to 5C cooler than the Corsair H60. To top it all off, the 2 year warranty on the Corsair H60 falls short to that of Antec’s 3 years on the Kuhler H2O 620. The Corsair H60 is a solid product, but it gets beat by its closest competitor when it comes to price, performance and warranty.
-legit reviews

Time for the Antec H2O 620/920 Club to take over
Edited by grassh0ppa - 4/13/11 at 9:50pm
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Yeah ummmm lemme run right out and snap one up.

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My Gentle Typhoon AP-15's came in today for my H70
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My Gentle Typhoon AP-15's came in today for my H70
grats! I have mine on a fan controller - they are almost silent on ~1200rpm, then for prime/benching/summer gaming they go up to ~1650 for me and are still super quiet!!

enjoy!
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Nice!!!! I did it!!! 5Ghz with the H60!!!...My first i7 2600k just high the wall at 4.9ghz. So had to get a nice chip.
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