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why no h60 in the title and h60 performs somewhat better than the h50?
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Originally Posted by godofdeath;13506230 
why no h60 in the title and h60 performs somewhat better than the h50?

We're now the Hydro Series Club. Though I guess that Killhouse needs to update the thread title and sig link. So the H60 was included. biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by Mergatroid;13505445 
I'm only o/cing a lowly core 2 quad, so I can't really relate to the kind of temps you're getting. However, the Hydro series of coolers is really comparable to the high end air coolers. If the temps with your H60 were ballpark with the high end air cooler you were using then the only way to improve them is to put some elbow grease into lapping the water block/pump, and maybe your CPU as well. Other than that, the fans you use are the most important thing. We have found orientation (intake/exhaust) only makes a difference of a few degrees in most cases, so good fans with good static pressure and and air flow become very important. If you're looking for the magical combination of super cooling and super quiet combined with ultra high overclocking, personally I don't think you're going to find it with these coolers.

Having said that, most people with i7 CPUs seem to get pretty good temps running at 4GHz using the Hydro coolers. If your temps are higher than theirs and you are using the same cooler, then you're back to the decision you were just lamenting. The H50 is a sworn by tried and true cooler, you may want to give it a try. Again, you'll likely want to lap it and replace the fan with two of the same model fans. (believe it or not, I have to mention that you should make sure they're both pointing in the same direction).
The H60 is a new member of the Hydro series. I have seen reviews of a comparison between the Hydro coolers (all in stock configuration) and they agreed that the cooling was best with the H70, then the H60, then the H50. However, that is in stock configuration. Once you add a second fan to the H50/60 they start performing closer to the H70 and can actually out perform it at lower temps. Even at higher temps the difference is only a few degrees (maybe 5 degrees). If you lap the water block you can improve the temps even further, some say they can get a 10 degree reduction by lapping the water block and the CPU.

If that seems like too much work to achieve your goal, than perhaps you would prefer some other type of cooler? There are a few coolers that use thermocouples added to a large heat sink and a fan, perhaps you may get a little better temp with one of those? I would suggest a full water loop, but if you decide that lapping your water block is too much work, then water cooling is likely out of the question since it also takes a little more work.

Personally, the first thing I would do in your case is email Corsair support, give them all the information (case model, number of fans, orientation, a picture maybe, cpu model, clock speed, voltage, cooler model, ambient temps and the temp of your cpu), and ask them if they think your temps should be better. If they think your temps are too high for your configuration you may decide to RMA the H60 for another one. I'm sure they would be interested in helping you find a solution.

wow thanks for taking the time to write all that i appreciate the thorough response

as for the temps as they sit now...i personally feel they are a little high compared to others....now i am using 2 Noctua NF-P12's as a P/P exhausting setup...so im using a quality fan but not sure how they compare to others

i do know that lapping the cpu block will help with temps...but on this new build i want to get everything stable and running correctly before i go altering an item i wont ever be able to return and on that same note i wont be lapping my cpu as i cant really afford to replace the 2500k anytime soon lol...but i will consider it if i decide to grab another H60 or H50 and i get some better temps with that one...then i will lap it

i would love to do a full water loop...but my case wont allow it with out modifying the case and i really cant afford to fork out the extra 50-75$ an pre-configured loop would cost me...i do have the patience for doing a WC setup and would love to at another time but just not right now

i have spoken to Corsair 2 times already and ive heard the same story...they tell me my cpu temps fall well within they temp range they consider normal...i have to also say ive talked to them a total of 4 times for other reason and they are not very help or knowledgeable it seems so to say ive been disappointed in them would be sort of an understatement
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post #17894 of 28247
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Originally Posted by godofdeath;13506230 
why no h60 in the title and h60 performs somewhat better than the h50?

i wish i could agree with that

but from my reading ive seen H50s out perform H60's a few times

and form my own experience i know my H60 doesnt cool nearly as good as some people with almost my identical setup but with an H50 instead

im actually RMA'ing my h60 to possibly buy an H50...ill report back and see if its any better lol biggrin.gif
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Quote:
Originally Posted by godofdeath;13506230 
why no h60 in the title and h60 performs somewhat better than the h50?

Thanks for the headsup, I thought Id already done this but it seems Id just changed the title of the first post. Maybe the thread title was fixed by a mod sometime ago, Ill have to pester them to make it editable.

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I would like to thank all for the link for the shroud it dropped temps back down another 3C holy FK was I surprised.
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I think I remember reviews showing H60 outperforming H50? But maybe I've got my wires crossed.

Don't get the Hyper 212+ over the water coolers... they're great but they're budget. Best bang for buck. You'll only get so far with them and not as far as any of the hydro series type coolers.

If you're wanting to replace hydro series with an air cooler then best bet is to get something in the higher price range.

I have a Hyper 212+ and also an H60. I've been trying to get my overclock high enough so I can test high temps but right now I'm stuck at 3.6 ghz with temps not going over 35 C. frown.gif I feel like if I can just get it up to 3.8 then I'll be seeing 40's and then I can try out the H60 and compare. I'm sure it'll outperform the Hyper 212+ because in reviews of the H60 I've been seeing it being compared to the high end air coolers and Hyper 212+ isn't on the lists.
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Sorry if this is a dumb question. I have the H50 on an Asus P6T. I have fan control disabled in the AI Suite and also Fan-Q disabled in the bios. I'm running 2 GT AP-15s in exhaust. I notice in CPUID's Hardware Monitor that the one GT fan that's plugged into the CPU fan header plus the pump that's plugged into the PWR_Fan Header both vary in speed, i.e., if you open HWM you can actually see the RPMs rise and fall slightly. Is this normal behavior or should they maintain an absolute constant RPM? I have speedfan installed, but all 3 are set to 100%. I did notice that CPUID shows the +12v to actually be 11.35. Maybe this is why I'm not seeing great temp. readings. I switched out an H70 for the H50 and readings are quite similar so that probably rules out pump malfunction. Should I connect the pump via a molex adapter direct to the PSU to insure it's running at full 12Vs? I wouldn't have any way to monitor it I guess unless the CPU obviously overheats indicating a pump failure. Any thoughts or suggestions? Perhaps some setting set to "auto" in the bios is sending out pulses to the fans and pump? I've never checked before this so I don't know if the RPMs are supposed to fluctuate as normal behavior.
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Originally Posted by FreekyGTi;13506448 
i have spoken to Corsair 2 times already and ive heard the same story...they tell me my cpu temps fall well within they temp range they consider normal...i have to also say ive talked to them a total of 4 times for other reason and they are not very help or knowledgeable it seems so to say ive been disappointed in them would be sort of an understatement

Perhaps then your only option is to RMA it and gamble on what you will replace it with. As you have seen, others have been getting pretty good results with these coolers. If you are unhappy with your H60 then by all means give the H50 a try. A lot of people swear by them.

Here's a pretty good comparison of stock h50, h60 and h70 performance:

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1125/pg6/corsair-h60-liquid-cpu-cooler-review-thermal-acoustic-performance.html

@nitewulf

My H70 pump varies between 1392 and 1424 RPM
Edited by Mergatroid - 5/14/11 at 11:57pm
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Originally Posted by Killhouse;13506858 
Thanks for the headsup, I thought Id already done this but it seems Id just changed the title of the first post. Maybe the thread title was fixed by a mod sometime ago, Ill have to pester them to make it editable.

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Go Advanced and you should be able to edit it Mate. biggrin.gif

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