Originally Posted by Mergatroid;13505445
I'm only o/cing a lowly core 2 quad, so I can't really relate to the kind of temps you're getting. However, the Hydro series of coolers is really comparable to the high end air coolers. If the temps with your H60 were ballpark with the high end air cooler you were using then the only way to improve them is to put some elbow grease into lapping the water block/pump, and maybe your CPU as well. Other than that, the fans you use are the most important thing. We have found orientation (intake/exhaust) only makes a difference of a few degrees in most cases, so good fans with good static pressure and and air flow become very important. If you're looking for the magical combination of super cooling and super quiet combined with ultra high overclocking, personally I don't think you're going to find it with these coolers.
Having said that, most people with i7 CPUs seem to get pretty good temps running at 4GHz using the Hydro coolers. If your temps are higher than theirs and you are using the same cooler, then you're back to the decision you were just lamenting. The H50 is a sworn by tried and true cooler, you may want to give it a try. Again, you'll likely want to lap it and replace the fan with two of the same model fans. (believe it or not, I have to mention that you should make sure they're both pointing in the same direction).
The H60 is a new member of the Hydro series. I have seen reviews of a comparison between the Hydro coolers (all in stock configuration) and they agreed that the cooling was best with the H70, then the H60, then the H50. However, that is in stock configuration. Once you add a second fan to the H50/60 they start performing closer to the H70 and can actually out perform it at lower temps. Even at higher temps the difference is only a few degrees (maybe 5 degrees). If you lap the water block you can improve the temps even further, some say they can get a 10 degree reduction by lapping the water block and the CPU.
If that seems like too much work to achieve your goal, than perhaps you would prefer some other type of cooler? There are a few coolers that use thermocouples added to a large heat sink and a fan, perhaps you may get a little better temp with one of those? I would suggest a full water loop, but if you decide that lapping your water block is too much work, then water cooling is likely out of the question since it also takes a little more work.
Personally, the first thing I would do in your case is email Corsair support, give them all the information (case model, number of fans, orientation, a picture maybe, cpu model, clock speed, voltage, cooler model, ambient temps and the temp of your cpu), and ask them if they think your temps should be better. If they think your temps are too high for your configuration you may decide to RMA the H60 for another one. I'm sure they would be interested in helping you find a solution.
wow thanks for taking the time to write all that i appreciate the thorough response
as for the temps as they sit now...i personally feel they are a little high compared to others....now i am using 2 Noctua NF-P12's
as a P/P exhausting setup...so im using a quality fan but not sure how they compare to others
i do know that lapping the cpu block will help with temps...but on this new build i want to get everything stable and running correctly before i go altering an item i wont ever be able to return and on that same note i wont be lapping my cpu as i cant really afford to replace the 2500k anytime soon lol...but i will consider it if i decide to grab another H60 or H50 and i get some better temps with that one...then i will lap it
i would love to do a full water loop...but my case wont allow it with out modifying the case and i really cant afford to fork out the extra 50-75$ an pre-configured loop would cost me...i do have the patience for doing a WC setup and would love to at another time but just not right now
i have spoken to Corsair 2 times already and ive heard the same story...they tell me my cpu temps fall well within they temp range they consider normal...i have to also say ive talked to them a total of 4 times for other reason and they are not very help or knowledgeable it seems so to say ive been disappointed in them would be sort of an understatement