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Cool, thanks.

I am running a Scythe 3000 rpm fan. This beast is loud! I am running it through a molex connector. I am not sure if I want to run in through an on board fan connector. But this damn thing is loud! I have to figure something out. Would it be safe to hook it to my corsair case fan controller?

Should be fine. But if you're not certain and would like a little tweakability you might invest in a RheoSmart fan controller. I paid $23(+shipping) for mine. Got it from Performance-PCs'.com and it's awesome. On the cooler days I just dial down the fans and it has a PWM connector to connect to the CPU header. Each header on the unit supplies up to 30v per channel. My fans run ~6v each. Enabling me to connect up to 5 fans per channel. Max I'll run is 4 per. What's really nice is I stealthed my Controller so that it sits behind the 5.25 plate and I did it without modifying the unit. cool.gif

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Should be fine. But if you're not certain and would like a little tweakability you might invest in a RheoSmart fan controller. I paid $23(+shipping) for mine. Got it from Performance-PCs'.com and it's awesome. On the cooler days I just dial down the fans and it has a PWM connector to connect to the CPU header. Each header on the unit supplies up to 30v per channel. My fans run ~6v each. Enabling me to connect up to 5 fans per channel. Max I'll run is 4 per. What's really nice is I stealthed my Controller so that it sits behind the 5.25 plate and I did it without modifying the unit.

~Ceadder
The Corsair case I have has a built in fan controller already. I know I can hook the fan to the controller. I almost always keep the fan controller turned on high. So it will still be loud as heck. Could I just plug the fan into a open fan header on the mobo? I have one available. I just heard that when running a H50 you want to make sure the push pull fans are always 100%
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I just heard that when running a H50 you want to make sure the push pull fans are always 100%
That is if your using a splitter as splitter divide the amperage going into the fans which sometimes makes them run at a lower RPM
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I've acquired a H60.

I've somehow managed to lose my standard heatsink mounting brackets for my CHIV.

Anybody who would know how to acquire some from ASUS?

Thank you.
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My local best buy has h50's for $40, and I have a reward zone coupon to use, so I'll end up getting it for $30. Right now I have the huge Mugen2, and while it does the job, I can't really maintain acceptable temps @ 4.0 ghz w/ HT on. I haven't tried in a few months, it got hot out, and my 3.6 ghz OC started getting up to around 68C with ITB, so I haven't bothered going any higher.

I'm wondering should I expect to see a performance increase with the h50 vs. the Mugen2? I did a quick search and it seemed some AMD users said the same, or worse performance w/ the h50. Am i just getting this so I can see something in my case besides a huge chunk of metal, haha.

Also, what TIM is recommended? I was using AS5 before, but I really hate that stuff. I will probably try a push/pull fan setup, does that help?

Thanks.
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The Corsair case I have has a built in fan controller already. I know I can hook the fan to the controller. I almost always keep the fan controller turned on high. So it will still be loud as heck. Could I just plug the fan into a open fan header on the mobo? I have one available. I just heard that when running a H50 you want to make sure the push pull fans are always 100%
Actually the only powered item that should and must be kept as close to 100% as possible is the Pump. The fans can be dialed all the way back to creeping if you wish. But then you have to live with the Temps. That's why I suggested a Controller. But if your Case came with one play around with it a little bit and see where you're happy both dB and temperature wise. I had mine plugged in on my MoBo via a splitter and just hated that I couldn't turn them down to a reasonable dB level on a whim. Which was what prompted me to get the RheoSmart.

So yes you've heard and read 100% but I think you've transposed the meaning to the fans which don't need to be running 100%. That's great for temps an all but after hours of sitting at the computer and with hours more having to be spent there, you'll go quite mad from the dB level.

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I have been using these fans on my H50s for a couple years now?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103091

Is there a better option these days? My new case only has one rear exit so I have considered getting a fan that pulls more CFM. I know that for a rad you want better static pressure though? Any better fans out there I could pick off newegg?
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I have been using these fans on my H50s for a couple years now?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103091

Is there a better option these days? My new case only has one rear exit so I have considered getting a fan that pulls more CFM. I know that for a rad you want better static pressure though? Any better fans out there I could pick off newegg?
Akasa Vipers have better CFM, and more importantly, better static pressure, with PWM control; for about the same noise level at full speed. One of the best rad fans on the market right now, and I'm very happy with mine. They're a little noiser than the GT AP-15s that most other people here recomend; but they have better static pressure and CFM for equivalent noise levels.
Edited by luchog - 7/13/11 at 2:47pm
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Each header on the unit supplies up to 30v per channel. My fans run ~6v each. Enabling me to connect up to 5 fans per channel. Max I'll run is 4 per. :
I think you mean 30 Watts, not Volts, and ~6 Watts each.

How many fans you can run per channel would be entirely dependent on the power draw of each fan. However, at 30 Watts per channel it is an excellent fan controller. Looks sweet too.

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The Corsair case I have has a built in fan controller already. I know I can hook the fan to the controller. I almost always keep the fan controller turned on high. So it will still be loud as heck. Could I just plug the fan into a open fan header on the mobo? I have one available. I just heard that when running a H50 you want to make sure the push pull fans are always 100%
I have the same case (the graphite 600T). I've known people to kill the built in fan controller by adding two 200mm NZXT fans. It's not a very good controller, and I don't use the one in my case at all. If you must use it, just use it for the 3 case fans, not for your H50 fans.

You do not have to run your H50 fans at 100% all the time. In fact, the H50 comes with a PWM fan that's meant to be plugged into the CPU FAN header on your motherboard so the BIOS can control the fan. Once again, if you want to plug more than one fan into that CPU FAN header you'll need a splitter. Make sure they are both 3 wire fans or both 4 wire PWM. I don't know how running two different types of fans off of the CPU FAN header would work, but I suspect the 3 pin fan would run at 100% all the time and the PWM fan would vary according to temperature. That would not be good. Also, if you are going to use 2 fans off of your CPU FAN header with a splitter, check the power draw of both fans (you want the current rating in Amps. Power=current x Voltage.) Check your motherboard manual. It should tell you how much current (in Amps or miliAmps) your CPU FAN header can provide. Make sure the two fans added together do not exceed the power capability of the CPU FAN header. A 3000 RPM Scythe fan added to another fan MAY exceed that limit. For example my two PWM H70 fans draw .51A each. My motherboard CPU FAN header can only provide 1A of current. .51 x 2 = 1.02A, so I'm just over the limit. To be safe, I used a PWM splitter that draws power from the power supply but allows the fans to be run from the CPU FAN header (like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812119248 ).

Most people use 3 pin fans and just run them at 100% or purchase an after market fan controller like Ceadderman showed you. There are tons of different fan controllers available. I prefer to let the motherboard control the CPU fans, so I went with dual PWM fans. Note, some motherboards can control 3 pin fans. Check your manual.

Make sure you plug your pump into a header that will run it at 100% all the time, or into one of the molex connectors from your power supply.

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That is if your using a splitter as splitter divide the voltage going into the fans which sometimes makes them run at a lower RPM
Splitters do not divide the voltage. That would be a series connection. Splitters connect fans in parallel which keeps the voltage constant unless you vary it by varying the control on a fan controller.

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I'm wondering should I expect to see a performance increase with the h50 vs. the Mugen2? I did a quick search and it seemed some AMD users said the same, or worse performance w/ the h50. Am i just getting this so I can see something in my case besides a huge chunk of metal, haha..
The Hydro coolers compete with the high end air coolers. That means if you have a high end air cooler you will likely not see huge temp differences. However, if you're willing to set up proper push/pull AND "lap" the water block and possibly the CPU you could see more improvement (of course, you could do that to your current cooler). I am not familiar with the cooler you mentioned so I cannot tell you if the H50 is "better".

BTW, AS5 is great TIM. It takes 200 hours to cure but it is one of the best TIMs. The stuff that comes on the H50 is actually a little better. Use it.
Edited by Mergatroid - 7/13/11 at 4:05pm
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Thanks merg. I always end up transposing those numbers.

Yate Loons are better than Sickle Flows as well. At ~$4ea cheaper too.

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