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^^^ That's because the thread title is somewhat misleading. It really should be "Official Corsair Hydro Series Club" but OP hasn't figured that out yet. wink.gif
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Hey folks. Just upgraded my motherboard, took of the old TIM to apply a fresh MX-2. Now I gained 5 degrees. I reapplied with the same results. I have been applying TIM for a while now and never had this problem. But that was before the H-series. Should I be doing something different with a watercooler or is the MX-2 any good for this setup? Would this make any difference MASSCOOL G751 Shin-Etsu? What would you all recommend?

Check the 80-way TIM link in my sig. Should clear up any questions you have. I use Shin Etsu G751 because it came stock on my H50. Even though I didn't use the stock TIM from the very beginning, I bought some, lapped the cooling plate of the H50 and then applied a fresh amount to the CPU and let the weight of the pump spread the TIM. Shin Etsu is VERY good in this regard. When I put my WC block on my CPU, I let the weight do the same thing but gave it a bit of an assist by rocking the CPU connector plate side to side top to bottom and corner to corner. I'm gonna be changing my CPU in the future so I'll make sure to grab a pic or two of the surface of both so you can see how that works. My CPU is running ~37c-39c with the increase in ambient temp and extra system Folding 24/7 CPU&GPU very good temps for my loop Folding 24/7 CPU. biggrin.gif

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Looks like a link worth reading. I browsed through another 80-way TIM site before I posted here but didn't find as much info as you sig link gives. I will keep an eye for your future application pics , do a full read of your 80-way TIM link and finally look about investing in that Shin Etsu G751 and after all that maybe at least get to the temps I was sporting before I removed the H80 stock TIM. Thanks.
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Thanks for the responses. The fans I have the static pressure is approx 1.7 and they run about 80cfm. I did look into Yate Loons but unfortunately I couldn't find any here in Australia.
I had been reading up on static pressure vs cfm for radiators. I normally buy stuff through www.scorptec.com.au because I can go pick up in store when I'm at work. They have the coolermaster R4's but id prefer something without LED. They also have the scythe slipstream 1900rpm fans. The scythe pushes more CFM about 110 CFM but I don't know what the static pressure is. Any recommendations for fans from this store or if the scythe fans would be any good?
Also, if I attach a PWM to a molex connection via an adapter, will the fans just run at full speed?
Thanks

just a warning about the scythe fans, they are super loud. make sure you have a fan controller with them to turn them down a bit cause they will drive you crazy.
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Thanks for the warning. I don't have a fan controller, are the Scythe fans really that loud?

I was looking into just ordering some of the fans from the H80 from Corsair but the postage is more expensive than the fans and I don't think there's anywhere I can get them directly in Australia.

Does anyone have any idea how I could source them or have some they may be willing to part with? I'd more than happily send some money for the fans/postage? Even if I could ship them to you and then forward them on to me with cheaper postage than Corsair quotes which is $39.00 for the cheapest option.

I just want to get some good cooling performance at a reasonable price but I'm having trouble sourcing the fans I want here in Australia. So if anyone has some good alternatives I'd love to hear them.

Are the Corsair Fans loud? I don't mind a bit of noise, just as long as they're not screaming. lol.

Thanks
Edited by combatant3219 - 4/19/12 at 8:34pm
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yea they definitely move some serious air, no doubt about it. But I finally had to take mine out because it was just insanely loud. I was originally stuck on a cooler master geminII S which is a big air cooler that faces the mobo and it worked great but when I used it for a case fan, it just drove me crazy.

I have two yate loon high speeds on my h50 right now and even cranked full blast they aren't as loud as that scythe.

And I'm pretty sure were talking about the same fan I know mine is a 110 cfm.
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^^^ That's because the thread title is somewhat misleading. It really should be "Official Corsair Hydro Series Club" but OP hasn't figured that out yet. wink.gif
Check the 80-way TIM link in my sig. Should clear up any questions you have. I use Shin Etsu G751 because it came stock on my H50. Even though I didn't use the stock TIM from the very beginning, I bought some, lapped the cooling plate of the H50 and then applied a fresh amount to the CPU and let the weight of the pump spread the TIM. Shin Etsu is VERY good in this regard. When I put my WC block on my CPU, I let the weight do the same thing but gave it a bit of an assist by rocking the CPU connector plate side to side top to bottom and corner to corner. I'm gonna be changing my CPU in the future so I'll make sure to grab a pic or two of the surface of both so you can see how that works. My CPU is running ~37c-39c with the increase in ambient temp and extra system Folding 24/7 CPU&GPU very good temps for my loop Folding 24/7 CPU. biggrin.gif
~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

I finished reading up on that awesome TIM link. I never got so much info on it. The MX-2 is only supposed to be about 1 deg cooler than the Shin Etsu G751 if prepared right but most importantly I learned about the importance of the compression of the H80 cooler to the Phenom II. I admit I was afraid to clamp down any tighter on the WC block afraid I would damage the CPU but what they said made sense and I found out I had a little more room to tighten down, I was rewarded with 3 degrees cooler while OC'd and folding for the OCN Fold-a-thon. That is huge for me. Though I had previously OC'd 200MHz more than now at the same temp. So I have to decide how worth it it is to reapply the TIM as recommended in your sig link and lower another degree or two. I applied 1 BB sized drop in the center and they say that is good for round heatsink contacts but for a square heatsink the recommend 2 lines parallel 2/3rd's a part which will distribute more squarely on the cpu which makes sense. The only thing I am not sure I am ready to do in the near future is lapping the cpu and the H80 WC block. I don't want to risk damaging either one and make matters worse. I will let you know if I reapply the TIM as suggested and give you the results.
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Thanks. Still having trouble finding the H80 fans here in Australia, but I did find this: http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/info/AL-CWCH-FAN120/235/

They are the fans from the H60 which according to the specs have a static pressure of 3.2mm h2o and are 74.4 CFM so that's better static pressure than the fans I already have plus they're quite cheap. Not sure how noisy they would be though. What do you think of these?

Just again to clarify, will 3 pin fans run at full speed if connected through an adapter to a standard 4 pin Molex? Does the same also apply when connected to a fan header on the MB? I think it does but just want to double check.

Thanks
Edited by combatant3219 - 4/20/12 at 3:10am
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^^^Pretty sure Corsair fans are Yate Loon fans. I know their PSU fans are and I know the H50 fan I had was. So if they stuck with Yate Loons, you could certainly do worse for fans. Yate Loons are the best bang of the buck fans on the market only being bested by higher priced "quality" fans like Gentle Typhoons. I highly recommend YL fans over all others cause @ $4US or less each you can buy 3 or 4 of them to how much 1 Gentle Typhoon costs depending on where you get them. Gentle Typhoons are damned good fans but price to performance ratio isn't as good. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post

^^^ That's because the thread title is somewhat misleading. It really should be "Official Corsair Hydro Series Club" but OP hasn't figured that out yet. wink.gif
Check the 80-way TIM link in my sig. Should clear up any questions you have. I use Shin Etsu G751 because it came stock on my H50. Even though I didn't use the stock TIM from the very beginning, I bought some, lapped the cooling plate of the H50 and then applied a fresh amount to the CPU and let the weight of the pump spread the TIM. Shin Etsu is VERY good in this regard. When I put my WC block on my CPU, I let the weight do the same thing but gave it a bit of an assist by rocking the CPU connector plate side to side top to bottom and corner to corner. I'm gonna be changing my CPU in the future so I'll make sure to grab a pic or two of the surface of both so you can see how that works. My CPU is running ~37c-39c with the increase in ambient temp and extra system Folding 24/7 CPU&GPU very good temps for my loop Folding 24/7 CPU. biggrin.gif
~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

I finished reading up on that awesome TIM link. I never got so much info on it. The MX-2 is only supposed to be about 1 deg cooler than the Shin Etsu G751 if prepared right but most importantly I learned about the importance of the compression of the H80 cooler to the Phenom II. I admit I was afraid to clamp down any tighter on the WC block afraid I would damage the CPU but what they said made sense and I found out I had a little more room to tighten down, I was rewarded with 3 degrees cooler while OC'd and folding for the OCN Fold-a-thon. That is huge for me. Though I had previously OC'd 200MHz more than now at the same temp. So I have to decide how worth it it is to reapply the TIM as recommended in your sig link and lower another degree or two. I applied 1 BB sized drop in the center and they say that is good for round heatsink contacts but for a square heatsink the recommend 2 lines parallel 2/3rd's a part which will distribute more squarely on the cpu which makes sense. The only thing I am not sure I am ready to do in the near future is lapping the cpu and the H80 WC block. I don't want to risk damaging either one and make matters worse. I will let you know if I reapply the TIM as suggested and give you the results.

MX-2 doesn't outperform G751. Really though alot of this is subjective to how you apply your TIM. I never have to reseat because of how I apply mine and they all perform consistently close enough. Where Shin Etsu and several others outperform TIM like AS5 is that Cure time is next to zero. 8hrs or less of Burn In time compared to as much as 200hrs. thinking.gif

As far as how worth it, it may or may not be... well to be honest how worth it is it to you if you can get a more stable clock in that cooling gain? This is only something you can answer. That's why I went with a Custom Loop. I loved my H50 and was sad to sell it, but as good as it performed I couldn't keep a stable clock above 3.8Ghz. We'll see how I do once Fold @ Thon is over, but I'm reasonably sure I can get this CPU over 4Ghz and keep it stable. So really it's all on your situation more than anything else. I apply my TIM about the same diameter as that of a dried Wasabi pea right to the Center of my CPU and let the block do the work. If your TIM is room temp or a little warmer it should spread out more than enough to do the job. My CPU is lapped though, so there are very few peaks valleys and ridges to fill to get good contact. smile.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif
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Thanks again for the help/tips. These forums sure are friendly and helpful! smile.gif

I also found the following two fans from koolance which seem to have some really good specs, only problem again is their not readily available in Australia and the postage would be more than the fan itself!!

http://koolance.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=0_83&product_id=683
http://koolance.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=0_83&product_id=685

If I could get my hands on these, are Koolance fans any good. The specs seem great.

Thanks again

Edit: After an extensive search I couldn't track down the koolance fans so just ordered the Corsair fans. They were nice and cheap so now I can test those against the existing Enermax fans I have and go with what ever works best.

Thanks for all your assistance. thumb.gif
Edited by combatant3219 - 4/20/12 at 7:38am
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^^^Pretty sure Corsair fans are Yate Loon fans. I know their PSU fans are and I know the H50 fan I had was. So if they stuck with Yate Loons, you could certainly do worse for fans. Yate Loons are the best bang of the buck fans on the market only being bested by higher priced "quality" fans like Gentle Typhoons. I highly recommend YL fans over all others cause @ $4US or less each you can buy 3 or 4 of them to how much 1 Gentle Typhoon costs depending on where you get them. Gentle Typhoons are damned good fans but price to performance ratio isn't as good. smile.gif
MX-2 doesn't outperform G751. Really though alot of this is subjective to how you apply your TIM. I never have to reseat because of how I apply mine and they all perform consistently close enough. Where Shin Etsu and several others outperform TIM like AS5 is that Cure time is next to zero. 8hrs or less of Burn In time compared to as much as 200hrs. thinking.gif
As far as how worth it, it may or may not be... well to be honest how worth it is it to you if you can get a more stable clock in that cooling gain? This is only something you can answer. That's why I went with a Custom Loop. I loved my H50 and was sad to sell it, but as good as it performed I couldn't keep a stable clock above 3.8Ghz. We'll see how I do once Fold @ Thon is over, but I'm reasonably sure I can get this CPU over 4Ghz and keep it stable. So really it's all on your situation more than anything else. I apply my TIM about the same diameter as that of a dried Wasabi pea right to the Center of my CPU and let the block do the work. If your TIM is room temp or a little warmer it should spread out more than enough to do the job. My CPU is lapped though, so there are very few peaks valleys and ridges to fill to get good contact. smile.gif
~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

Sorry I actually meant in my previous post that G751 tends to be 1 degree cooler than MX-2 according to 80-way Tim. I just didn't type it out right though I was thinking it. So I have to make the decision whether to invest in it or not. With H80 and preapplied TIM my Phenom II was folding 24/7 at 4.2GHz averaging 48 degrees. All very stable. So now my Phenom II is 51 degrees folding for the fold-a-thon. That was after I tightened the WC block down. Before that I had to be at 3.9GHz and 55 degrees. I wanna get back to my old temps and OC so probably finisih the FaT today and do another reapplication and try the 2 straight line approach with the MX-2, get the WC block tightened down where it is now and see where it stands. Maybe invest in some G751 on my cpu upgrade (maybe a piledriver) in a few months.
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