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I cant even imagine trying to overclock in northern nevada (I grew up in Battle Mountain thumb.gif)
also nice solution with the big fans

Battle Mtn biggrin.gif High desert ... great for OC's in the winter with quite common single digit temps!, Reno is pretty much the same just a bit milder all around smile.gif ... it's the friggin dust that's a problem mad.gif Love Colorado, lived all over the western slope in my younger days.

Back to the mis-matched fan scenario/discussion? I feel my real world results [4.6GHz OC w/65c max load @ 90+F ambients] with my "Bastardized H100" [2x120mm 92cfm total PUSH (on Low) W/1x200mm 110cfm PULL]... tells me don't worry about it rolleyes.gif .... I was concerned the 200mm might be causing some? "cavitation" with the 120's intake?, even if it is you can't argue degraded performance.

NOW do I dare bring up the parameters of a fans "Static Pressure" into the equation? BECAUSE you really can't just compare "straight' CFM/rpm vs CFM/rpm when a radiator and "static pressure" is involved ... where is that Cal-Tech professor/scientists when you need one LoL biggrin.gif
 
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Battle Mtn biggrin.gif High desert ... great for OC's in the winter with quite common single digit temps!, Reno is pretty much the same just a bit milder all around smile.gif ... it's the friggin dust that's a problem mad.gif Love Colorado, lived all over the western slope in my younger days.

gotta love it thumb.gif
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I think it comes down to this:

I could mount the delta facing a wall. I could mount it so there's just barely enough room for air to flow out between the wall and the fan. This would be more obstacle and create more back pressure than a slower fan ever would. This still would not burn out the delta fan.

If a wall wouldn't burn out the fan, neither would adding another slower fan. How's that for logic?

I'm not going to argue about it any more.
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I think it comes down to this:
I could mount the delta facing a wall. I could mount it so there's just barely enough room for air to flow out between the wall and the fan. This would be more obstacle and create more back pressure than a slower fan ever would. This still would not burn out the delta fan.
If a wall wouldn't burn out the fan, neither would adding another slower fan. How's that for logic?
I'm not going to argue about it any more.

I dare you to do it. A common high school experiment is to take two box fans. Put one in the center of the room and put the other up against a wall. Before the class is over the one against the wall will have a burned out motor.

*Edit - Quote from information found at phillipselectric.com

Over-current Failures:
Over-current failures happen most often when
operating conditions cause devices to draw substantially
more current than their rated load capacity.
They tend to happen suddenly, and are
not conducive to preventive procedures or predictive
measurements.

A slide on the heat component of DC motor failure

340

*edit - Just got this as a response from scythe,

From: Ramon Pascua (r.pascua@scythe-usa.com)

Sent: Thu 5/10/12 10:32 AM

To: xxxxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com

Hello Stephen,

Thank you so much for this feedback and we will inform our design engineers from Japan regarding this matter. As soon as we get their response we will contact you regarding their technical advice.

Best Regards

SCYTHE-USA RMA/ Support

14335 E. Don Julian Rd.

I'll keep everyone updated as I receive a response.

*another edit - Mergatroid I just noticed in a previous post where you mentioned your H50 pump buzzes. How do you have your radiator oriented? I noticed on mine that the noise would decrease by quite a bit if I oriented it so that the tubes are on the bottom. I think it might have to do with air getting in the line maybe?
Edited by Bubba Hotepp - 5/10/12 at 7:30pm
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I have tried all orientations for the rad. I have settled with the tubes at the top. It's not very loud and can only be heard when you're working in the case with the sides off.
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Ahhhh....yeah. I could hear mine too with the case sides off...like a soft purr. But with the rad the other direction I could hear mine with the case closed up. I'm only guessing at the reason why.
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Well I never thought my original question would cause such hot debate and whilst some of the more technical stuff is a little beyond my understanding I certainly appreciate the input! smile.gif

So I've done a little bit of testing and whilst I haven't taken any screen shots, here is what I did.
First off I'll just say that airflow in the Alienware case is not ideal and there is a not a lot of room to improve this but I'll just have to live with it until I upgrade somewhere down the track.

The original set up was with just the Delta fan pulling air through the radiator and exhausting air out the back of the case. Because of the restricted intake airflow I had modified the top of the case and added 2 x 120mm Enermax TB Silence fans to intake cool air.

Keeping this config I then added a Corsair fan to the other side of the rad to push air through. The results were negligible.

I then took the corsair fan off and changed the orientation of the Delta fan so it was pushing air through the rad in an intake config. I also altered the config of the 2x120mm fans on top of the case so these would exhaust the hot air coming off the radiator. This config actually lowered temps by 3-4*C. Given this result I decided to keep the intake config for my next test.

Now I removed the Delta and put the 2x corsair fans on in a push/pull intake config. Temps were no real improvement over the original config, perhaps 1*C better.

The only test I just realized I haven't done is Delta push/Corsair pull in an intake config, but at this point the single Delta fan with an intake config pushing air through the rad is giving me the best temps.

All tests were done at an ambient temp of 25*C.

I'll report back once I've done the final test with the added corsair fan.

Thanks for everyone's input! thumb.gif

Edit: I didn't bother testing the other 2 Enermax fans I had on the rad as the specs of these fans as far as static pressure goes was below that of the Corsair fans.
Edited by combatant3219 - 5/11/12 at 4:36pm
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I would like to join the club! Here's an obligatory pic...

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IMG_1070 by twitch133, on Flickr
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I would like to join the club! Here's an obligatory pic...

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Very kewl Mr. twitch. I'm a sucker for 932 builds. biggrin.gif

You can add yourself in OP however. thumb.gif

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Y'all made my head hurt with all that technical stuff.
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