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I'd rather have the PWM control all the time then have to "Set" the corsair module to a different level for more performance if that makes any sense. I'm sure the stock fans are probably a little better than the XLPs but the xlps are pretty silent imo. thanks for the help
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yeah , with the amount you can actually change temps with hydro series I wouldnt worry about it too much , your temps wont vary much between ideal fans or the ones you want , the rad isnt that big and the block isnt as efficient as a high performance custom loop one , it comes down to how important is 2 degrees to you kinda thing.
    
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This. Whenever changing coolers, checking the block, lappy lappy oda CPU, client builds etc. biggrin.gif Can never have enough TIM imho. thumb.gif

well watch how you say that , newbs ( not condescending, like new people ) , you can never OWN too much TIM , you can absolutely apply too much TIM , with most tims, less is more , which is weird because of how and how much corsair applies , everytime ( ok twice ) that I was installing a new unit I left it as is and it spews out the edges and stuff , you should really only need a dot in the middle slightly smaller than a pea ( some say a cooked grain of rice ) and it will spread just fine ... ( obviously trying to tell you how to do it ceadder , just making sure people doing it for the first time know)

lol I didn't think you were tellin me how it's done si. thumb.gif

Wassumatter? Would you like some Motherboard to go with your TIM? biggrin.gif

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got a little worried just reading through the corsair forum about the h100 frown.gif
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ive never had issues with mine , I used it and OCd my i7 960 with it and now its in my wifes pc , no noise issues or any of that grinding or anything Id buy one again anyday and I certainly wouldnt get a kuhler instead !
    
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got a little worried just reading through the corsair forum about the h100 frown.gif
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ive never had issues with mine , I used it and OCd my i7 960 with it and now its in my wifes pc , no noise issues or any of that grinding or anything Id buy one again anyday and I certainly wouldnt get a kuhler instead !

It seems only guys with problems post in the Corsair forum, with good reason, it is a CS forum afterall ...
BUT you'll get much more enjoyment/info out of this OCN's "Enthusiast's" thread!
The 1st H100's started showing up almost a year ago [page 1905] and Mergatroid, maybe the most enthusiastic H100 owner, started posting mid-Sept, page 1945 [HERE]. He has a PWM setup (like yours) and is quite knowledgeable regarding all the owners different fan configurations. It may take you awhile to read all those pages, but I think you'll not only find it informative, but even hilariously entertaining at times thumb.gif

Total "DITTO" aggrement w/Simon's comments above biggrin.gif
 
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I believe that Dow Corning makes Shin Etsu G751. I could be wrong but every time I go to the Shin Etsu site I always see Dow Corning prominently displayed on their site. thinking.gif
And the reason I say to scrape it off and reapply it is cause it's generally too thick to begin with. I know the H50 was rather caked on when I got it. I scraped off the TIM and didn't reapply it because I lapped both the Pump and the CPU. I should have reused the TIM but TIM isn't that expensive so I didn't stop to consider it. There are others here who did reuse it after scraping it off. smile.gif
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According to this post, they are different TIMs. I have no doubt that Dow Corning may make Shin-Etsu TIM for someone, but they are not the same TIM (they're not even the same colour as H50/70 TIM is pink, and H80/100 TIM is white).

http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showpost.php?p=523712&postcount=69 (better late than never)
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never if your temps dont go up , otherwise everytime I take a block off for any reason.. Ive heard of people doing it every six months and if that works for them , I just go by the "if it isnt broken dont fix it " motto.

What he said.
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Hi guys i was wondering if using these fans would hinder the performance of the h100 I just purchased? I am going to change the stock fans more for aesthetic reasons.
I currently have one of these http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8409/fan-526/Noiseblocker_NB-BlackSilentFan_XLP_120mmx25mm_Ultra_Quiet_PWM_Fan_-_1000-2000_RPM_-_14-31_dBA.html
Would two of these perform well? I already have one on my hyper 212+ and its really quiet, I was thinking using two with a pwm y cable on the h100 would work well?

The static pressure on those fans is only 2.653 mm-H2O (max). The pressure on the H100 fans is 7.7mm-H20. Those fans will not perform even close to as good as the stock H100 fans.

However, it depends on what you want. If your willing to accept higher temps for nicer looking fans, then go for it.

Evidence? I just installed two of these fans on my H100:

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX40631

(youtube video of the swap and results:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBZBt9Qyo5Q&feature=plcp

Their static pressure is 2.18 mm-H2O (very close to the fans you're looking at).

I was using a couple of Scythe Slipstream 1900 RMP fans (110 CFM) which I thought were not all that great. When I installed these new fans this weekend (because they light up like a freaking casino) my temps went up by 6-8c at max RPMs using Intel Burn Test. So, I would expect even more of a difference if I was comparing to the stock H100 fans, as they are over 7mmH20 and really high performing fans. The only reason I would replace them is if I wanted four pin PWM fans (which I did), or if I wanted quieter fans and I was willing to see a performance drop at high load. In fact, if the Corsair fans were PWM, I would still be using them. I switched to PWM for the same reason it looks like you want to, so my motherboard could control my fans.

Here is my before and after:




Needless to say, I will likely be putting my Scythe fans back in.

I'm a little confused here:

"Hi guys i was wondering if using these fans would hinder the performance of the h100 I just purchased?"

"Well I don't have the h100 but doesn't the little controller on the cpu block directly change the fan speed or is that for the pump?"

In one message you say you just bought it, and in another you say you don't have one.

The short answer is, yes, the fans you provided a link to will hinder the performance of the H100.

The H100 block has three control ranges:

Low - 900 RPM to 1300 RPM
Mid - 1300 RPM to 2000 RPM
High - 1600 RPM to 2600 RPM

That's using the stock fans. For each click of the button on the block, you move the range up one. Personally, I also changed my fans to PWM fans (the Scythe Slipstream 1900 RPM fans I mention above). Even though they are not as good as the stock fans, they're still fairly good when considering the comparison I just did to the 2.18 (mm-H2O) fans I mention above.
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yeah , with the amount you can actually change temps with hydro series I wouldnt worry about it too much , your temps wont vary much between ideal fans or the ones you want , the rad isnt that big and the block isnt as efficient as a high performance custom loop one , it comes down to how important is 2 degrees to you kinda thing.

Have you tested that or did you see it somewhere? My testing shows otherwise. The stock H100/80 fans are excellent fans for pure performance. In fact, even my idle temps have gone up by about 8c from my fan change this weekend. My idle is now about 40c at a 24c ambient. With the Scythe fans, I was getting an idle of about 32c (by idle I mean web browsing as I am doing now). This and I wasn't even using the H100 stock fans which are better than the Scythe fans I was using.
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got a little worried just reading through the corsair forum about the h100 frown.gif

We have two in our house and they're both working perfectly. I know some people have had some noise issues with the block, but I don't think it's prevalent.

If anyone wants to show two ~2-3 mm-H2O fans performing close to two 7.7 mm-H2O h100 stock fans using Intel Burn Test or Prime 95, I would love to see it.

The basic fact is, if you want looks you're likely not getting performance in regards to fans. With as large a change in temps as I'm getting with these "casino" fans I tried, I will be reinstalling my Scythe fans this weekend. This is not written in stone or anything. There may be great fans out there that also look awesome, but generally speaking most LED fans are not great fans (at least from what I've seen).
Edited by Mergatroid - 8/7/12 at 5:44pm
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I tried using stock , 4 x corsair fans in push pull ,yate loons and the gentle typhoons and yes there is a temperature change but at least in my case it didnt really change how far I could overclock , which for me is really the point of changing fans ( that and noise ) but what I really ultimately is that the hydro series arent meant to be a custom loop , the perform similarly to high end air coolers without having a giant brick of an air cooler on your mobo.. So what I mean is dont invest a ton of money in fans hoping your going to get mad overclocks with your H80 or something because no amount of fans is going to make that a custom loop , theres just not enough rad !
    
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Not to argue with you Merg, but the TIM on my H50 before I removed it was haze grey the same color the US Navy uses for most of their fleet operations. I know cause I got sick of that color my 2nd month in the fleet. biggrin.gif

I like the color now but not if I had to scrub the side of the ship, chip the old and paint over with the fresh. Went through too many uniform shirts due to painting. lol tongue.gif

Are you sure you didn't mean Mauve instead of Pink? Mauve is the grey side of the pink spectrum. wink.gif

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Hey you think a H70 would be enough to cool a Phenom II x4 965 overclocked to 4.2ghz?? i would settle for 4ghz if thats all it would take. Im basically building another gaming rig out of spare parts i have around the house after upgrades on 2 gaming rigs.
 
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