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I thought it was known that they are really good fans for performance, but that everyone with their Princess ears couldn't handle it whistle.gif (No offense to any actual Princess' biggrin.gif )

ROFL, funniest thing I read all day. Thanks.
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That's about right on depending on your ambients ... what were they? Also are you set up as a push only top exhaust? Those noise blockers, while they certainly don't match the stock fans static pressure, are not to bad @2.653 mm-H2O/2000rpm. Doing the same test I'm now curious how well your stock H100 fans would do @ the Low setting? In an 18min test I bet they're only 1-2c hotter? rolleyes.gif

That's a good point. I would also like to know how well they cool turned down with a fan controller in the same computer.

@JAM3S121

Are you using the block to control the fans? If so, I guess there's not really any way to do a test like this. I really wish I had of done it when I was swapping fans around, I could have used my fan controller to test them at max RPM and Minimum RPM.
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New H100 member reporting in thumb.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

That's a very clean build. Nice job on the cable management. Well done. You should think about moving all your drives into one cage, and removing the unused cage for better airflow to your video card. It looks like the cages are the same ones they use in the 600T and 650D. Can you give us a picture on an angle so we can see the front too?
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That's about right on depending on your ambients ... what were they? Also are you set up as a push only top exhaust? Those noise blockers, while they certainly don't match the stock fans static pressure, are not to bad @2.653 mm-H2O/2000rpm. Doing the same test I'm now curious how well your stock H100 fans would do @ the Low setting? In an 18min test I bet they're only 1-2c hotter? rolleyes.gif

My fan controller on the h100 was DOA. I was testing the fans by using both of my noiseblocker XLP's plugged into a 3 pin fan hub on my switch 810 so they always ran at full speed since I didn't have a PWM splitter.

max temps were what I posted ealier.

running the h100 on about 80% speed in using my NZXT Mesh fan controller the temps are about 2-4c better across all cores. Could go faster with the fans but I find that 80% isn't to loud and just the right amount of performance.

Not running push/pull. I feel like itll add to much noise for marginal improvements (1-3c really not worth it to me)


Edited by JAM3S121 - 8/24/12 at 8:57pm
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Originally Posted by Mergatroid View Post

That's a very clean build. Nice job on the cable management. Well done. You should think about moving all your drives into one cage, and removing the unused cage for better airflow to your video card. It looks like the cages are the same ones they use in the 600T and 650D. Can you give us a picture on an angle so we can see the front too?

Like this?

I have 3 HDDs and one SSD in there, but maybe if I stick the SSD somewhere else, then I reckon that could work...

Edit: There are two fans in front, leaving one out in the pic was just to show how little room there is for pushing air through..

Edit edit: Found a spot for the SSD with the help of the always brave 3M foam tape thumb.gif

Edited by Akvavit - 8/25/12 at 7:23am
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My fan controller on the h100 was DOA. I was testing the fans by using both of my noiseblocker XLP's plugged into a 3 pin fan hub on my switch 810 so they always ran at full speed since I didn't have a PWM splitter.
max temps were what I posted ealier.

I was asking what your ambients were (room temps)

running the h100 on about 80% speed in using my NZXT Mesh fan controller the temps are about 2-4c better across all cores. Could go faster with the fans but I find that 80% isn't to loud and just the right amount of performance.

Apologies, I thought you had the H100 controller fixed/RMA'd? So the NZXT controller is fixed and you can't turn the fans down to say 30%-40%?to simulate the H100 "Low" setting?

Not running push/pull. I feel like itll add to much noise for marginal improvements (1-3c really not worth it to me)

Understood ... but just to confirm, your setup is 2 fan PUSH w/TOP exhaust? That's what the pics look like to me smile.gif

Houston? We may have a failure to communicate? ... sorry if I wasn't more specific smile.gif
 
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Did you guys read the latest Corsair fan review?!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6177/choosing-the-best-120mm-radiator-fan-testing-eight-fans-with-corsairs-h80

Very nice Find CFoot! ... Well done article that I think makes many of us look smarter than we may be ... several of us have this info in our heads, but there were some gross surprises "SickleFlow" anyone!

Bottom line many of us have been saying all along ... It is hard to justify replacing Corsairs Stock Fans @ any price! biggrin.gif (noted: there can be exceptions) ... AND for average overclocking the "High" settings are somewhat useless, Law of diminishing returns, even more SO with the H100! redface.gif
Aditionally IMO, with the H100, I might even go as far as saying a 4 fan push/pull is definate "Overkill" if your using quality fans (stock?) in the 1st place ...

Quote Dustin/Anandtech ...

"Corsair H80 Stock Fan ... When I met with Corsair, I asked them specifically which fans they would recommend using with the H80 since they had just released their new SP120 line. Surprisingly, they suggested that unless you're going for extreme silence, the stock fans that come with the H80 would provide the most balanced performance. Part of the reason for this is that the H80 has a built-in three speed fan controller that can change settings just by pressing a button on the waterblock"

My conclusion, reaffirmed above, is Corsair hit it out of the park "engineering" the H80/H100 (including "stock" fans) with regards to a performance/price analogy! Throw in the fact that you have a much cleaner case (including airflow) AND easy access to your ram/motherboard components ... It's a Win/Win all around success thumb.gif


PS: I also wish they'd have included the Noctua NF-F12 so for convienience sakes there all in one place to get a real world same set-up comparison.
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Houston? We may have a failure to communicate? ... sorry if I wasn't more specific smile.gif


I'd say ambient is about 65F.

I could try that maybe I will. Right now the fans are exhausing air out.. I had them pulling air in but I was getting really bad temps on my northbridge and gpu from sucking in hot air
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I'd say ambient is about 65F.
I could try that maybe I will. Right now the fans are exhausing air out.. I had them pulling air in but I was getting really bad temps on my northbridge and gpu from sucking in hot air

65F ambients! Wish I could afford that luxury in the middle of a hot summer here out west smile.gif
AND I think it's a matter of "semantics" when you say "sucking in hot air" in an "Intake" configuration, that's impossible in my book with 65F ambients redface.gif ... BUT I understand what you really mean in that you were blowing hot air from the H100's rad all over your motherboard and components in an intake config and that's why you switched to push/exhaust wink.gif
I had a similar problem details [HERE]

Bottom line ... everything looks good to me ... nice setup thumb.gif
 
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Its 65F at night but during the day it gets hotter. II live in connecticut though, I think reno is a little hotter tongue.gif

My family doesn't have central AC or anything, but we have a window air condition down here but the room is pretty big
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Like this? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I have 3 HDDs and one SSD in there, but maybe if I stick the SSD somewhere else, then I reckon that could work...
Edit: There are two fans in front, leaving one out in the pic was just to show how little room there is for pushing air through..
Edit edit: Found a spot for the SSD with the help of the always brave 3M foam tape thumb.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

There ya go. Did you see any temperature improvement on your gpu when under load?
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Did you guys read the latest Corsair fan review?!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6177/choosing-the-best-120mm-radiator-fan-testing-eight-fans-with-corsairs-h80

I just checked out your link. It shows the stock fans kicking some serious performance butt, but being loud (which is exactly what we've been discussing).

However, I wasn't impressed by this:

"Our H80's fan settings are also only active with the stock fan; all others run at the full twelve volts."

Considering all the fans they tested would have worked in the H80 block, and that also all of them including the stock fans would work at 12V, I find it oddly bizarre that they would try and slightly hobble the stock fans by using them through the controller where you have no idea of the actual speed they are running at.

So, if the controller in the block was reducing the voltage to the stock fans, they may have performed a degree or two better if they were connected straight to 12V like all the other fans were. Now, 1-2c is almost nothing, but if they are benchmarking the fans they should connect them all the same way. As you can see in their chart, they could only give a range for the RPM of the stock fans, so even they are not sure how fast the fans were running.

IMO, if people are going to do a test like this, they should use a fan controller that reports the RPM of the fans, All they did in their chart is list the RPM written in the specs. For all they know, one of the fans could be defective and running slower than it should be. When I have purchased fans and connected them to my fan controller, I can see that they don't run at the same value as stated in the specifications. For example, my Scythe Slipstream fans are rated at 1900 RPM. My fan controller only runs them at 11 volts, but they still hit 2000 RPM, and may go higher if I connected them direct to 12V. Strangely enough, when the motherboard controls them using PWM, they usually run in the mid 1900s.

I'm a little disappointed in their methodology, although I think their findings are ballpark. Another little nit to pick "As far as static pressure goes, most of these fans are hanging out in about the same neighborhood."

The NZXT fan is 0.95 mm/H2O, and (excluding the stock fans) the highest fan is 3.1 mm/H2O and the next highest fan is 2.92 mm/H2O. Those fans have three times the static pressure, so how that can claim they are all in the same neighborhood is something I don't understand. Credit them that they qualified this by saying "most of these fans", but I would have said "These fans have a wide range of static pressures". It's odd that the NZXT fans came out in the middle of the pack for temps but it has the lowest static pressure, leading me to believe someone got their measurements wrong. Are the manufacturers fudging their numbers? The CoolerMaster fan did very poorly when it should have outperformed the NZXT fan. Was it defective? We can't tell because they didn't measure the RPM of the fans.

I guess this shows you can't always believe the specifications manufacturers give us for their fans, although it could also indicate a defective fan.

I believe most of the people in this thread could have done a better job testing these fans.
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