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Cooler Master Excalibur fans x5 two of which are on my H80

Well lets start at the beginning, I had 3 old Antec Tri color fans x2 front intake x1 side panel intake,
the other 2 fans I replaced where the Corsair H80 stock fans (loud to say the least).

1st The packaging was fantastic, Fans seemed a little light weight but have solid build, and the screw holes are braced from top to bottom (like a cylinder) so when I was screwing them down tight onto the H80 with the rubber seals the fans were not warping.

2nd Came with basically every adapter you need/want even little rubber mounts, If you look at the photo's you can see the tiny lil rubber mounts placed over the mounting holes, no vibration at all

3rd Fantastic amount of air flow to noise level, Stock H80 @ 2300RPM was only 92CFM these fans are 2000RPM @ 85CFM - 10dB ! Still a little noisy but @ low to med hardly can be heard compared to the stock H80 fans!

4th Using them as PWM fans with the Corsair H80. The facts are that @ idle and light loads the fans perform better than the stock ones ever did.

Stock fans Idle @ 35'c also fairly noisy (on high profile)
CM fans Idle @ 32'c and the noise is half of stock fans (on high profile)

Case temp dropped from 34'c to 32-33'c ( a little better )

Under load how ever the CM fans performed equal to a tiny bit better than the H80's and maybe due to the directed airflow coming out the back of the fan?

Stock ITB 55-57'c
CM FANS 54-55'c thumb.gif

Stock fans apparently had a static pressure of 7.7 (dont know if they mean each fan or in a push/pull
CM fans have a static pressure of 3.5

Over all I am very pleased to say these fans are a decent improvement in airflow and >noise @ the low/med levels and max there as good as the stock H80's but way quieter biggrin.gif

Hope this helps anyone looking for some solid fans to replace with or even on the H80/H100 Water cooler.

Peace out peeps biggrin.gif
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plan on buying a corsair hydro series, either h60 or h80 and sticking it on my 955 until the release of the FX8300's in october, is it ok to take it off the 955 and re-paste it and put it on another cpu or would i be better off just buying another like the h100? 1st time trying to OC so not sure which one ill need.


edit: should i just grab the h100 now and swap it over to the new cpu when i get it? and just buy a hyper 212+ for my 955(wont be oc'd or used for gaming etc) to save money?
Edited by Aspec89 - 9/29/12 at 8:36am
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plan on buying a corsair hydro series, either h60 or h80 and sticking it on my 955 until the release of the FX8300's in october, is it ok to take it off the 955 and re-paste it and put it on another cpu or would i be better off just buying another like the h100? 1st time trying to OC so not sure which one ill need.


edit: should i just grab the h100 now and swap it over to the new cpu when i get it? and just buy a hyper 212+ for my 955(wont be oc'd or used for gaming etc) to save money?

Yeah it's plenty fine. You just have to replace the TIM. I used my H50 on 2 different CPUs' before I went full custom loop. thumb.gif

So if you don't have some TIM, I would suggest buying some. smile.gif

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Originally Posted by AusNorman View Post

Cooler Master Excalibur fans x5 two of which are on my H80
Well lets start at the beginning, I had 3 old Antec Tri color fans x2 front intake x1 side panel intake,
the other 2 fans I replaced where the Corsair H80 stock fans (loud to say the least).
1st The packaging was fantastic, Fans seemed a little light weight but have solid build, and the screw holes are braced from top to bottom (like a cylinder) so when I was screwing them down tight onto the H80 with the rubber seals the fans were not warping.
2nd Came with basically every adapter you need/want even little rubber mounts, If you look at the photo's you can see the tiny lil rubber mounts placed over the mounting holes, no vibration at all
3rd Fantastic amount of air flow to noise level, Stock H80 @ 2300RPM was only 92CFM these fans are 2000RPM @ 85CFM - 10dB ! Still a little noisy but @ low to med hardly can be heard compared to the stock H80 fans!
4th Using them as PWM fans with the Corsair H80. The facts are that @ idle and light loads the fans perform better than the stock ones ever did.
Stock fans Idle @ 35'c also fairly noisy (on high profile)
CM fans Idle @ 32'c and the noise is half of stock fans (on high profile)
Case temp dropped from 34'c to 32-33'c ( a little better )
Under load how ever the CM fans performed equal to a tiny bit better than the H80's and maybe due to the directed airflow coming out the back of the fan?
Stock ITB 55-57'c
CM FANS 54-55'c thumb.gif
Stock fans apparently had a static pressure of 7.7 (dont know if they mean each fan or in a push/pull
CM fans have a static pressure of 3.5
Over all I am very pleased to say these fans are a decent improvement in airflow and >noise @ the low/med levels and max there as good as the stock H80's but way quieter biggrin.gif
Hope this helps anyone looking for some solid fans to replace with or even on the H80/H100 Water cooler.
Peace out peeps biggrin.gif

There's something wrong with your testing. Others have done the same tests between the Excalibur fans and the Stock H80/100 fans and got different results than you did. Those fans have half the static pressure and way less airflow than the stock fans have. Others doing the same comparison have found the Excaliburs to be a couple of degrees hotter than the stock fans, which is exactly what one would expect when comparing their specifications.

Now, this may be because you also replaced your case fans (you didn't specifically mention replacing them, but since you mention them I assume you replaced them as well?). Did you have both sets of fans set to the same orientation? If you use intake on one set and exhaust on the other, the comparison is invalid. If you want to do a valid comparison, you have to keep everything equal except changing the fans on the cooler, or your results are invalid. I hope you don't go around telling people how superior the Excalibur fans are, or some people may purchase them expecting better temps and be disappointed. You should look at your results more closely, and perhaps perform the tests over. You can't expect fans with lesser specs to outperform fans with higher specs, especially considering your results differ from others. BTW, the 7.78 mm/H2O is per fan.
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I agree. There's no way the Excaliburs would out perform the Corsair fans. Tomorrow I will be testing the stock Corsair fans vs Corsair SP120 Performance vs Silverstone AP-121 on my H100. I wish I had more fans to test (maybe down the track I'll grab some more fans to test) I'm testing for performance only. Noise levels are of no interest to me.
Edited by tw33k - 9/29/12 at 4:26pm
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Yes Mergatroid I replaced all my fans in my case with these CM Excalibur fans, All fans sucking in and the H80 is the only fan drawing air out of my case. Top140mm fan has been taken off and taped up, 3 CM Excalibur fans sucking in and only the H80 letting air out. (my Antec 300 gaming case mk1 has been sealed with Selleys No More Gaps biggrin.gif) So im thinking I have fantastic airflow in my case and as the CM fans on my H80 spin up so do my case fans too via motherboard controlled PWN.

Also rear 120mm CM fan on my H80 radiator which is doing the pulling I electrical taped up the mesh hole around the shroud, so it can only suck air thru the radiator not the sides!

Also my room temp is a constant 19'c so no variation in ambient temp with these tests either.

Well my case is cooler due to the new fans drafting a **** load more air, and maybe since I have a decent positive case pressure its helping the H80 air flow?? Not really sure and yes I was surprised as well to notice a positive gain over stock fans! smile.gif Also using a laser RPM counter on the excalibur fans and in fact spin @ 2300 RPM not 2000RPM stated on box! (maybe some extra pressure gain there and airflow?)

All in all I'm happy
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Hey guys, I wanna welcome myself to the club first off. Got myself an H100 and ohhh man is it doing me wonders for my lovely, super hot FX 8120 chip. I'll copy and paste this from the EVO thread. I had a 212 Evo and it wasn't cutting it, so I got an H100. Here are some comparisons and results.

H100 has been installed, it wasn't easy but I managed For reference I'm using an NZXT Phantom case two 200mm fans up top. One silent fan in the back top running 700rpm, one performance fan in top front running at low speed. It can go up to high speed 1300rpm I believe. I have mounted the radiator underneath said 200mm fans, with two ap-15s pushing the air upwards towards the pull fans. H100 is set to performance mode, level 3. My Evo ran in a push and pull config using the ap-15s. CPU is FX-8120.

CPU 3.8ghz 1.24 idle to light load. Youtube videos at 1080p, etc.

Evo: Idle temp at at fans full speed 33-37 degrees under light load. Core temps at around 20 degrees each.

H100: Idle temp with fans at low speed 31-34 degrees under light load. Core temps at 16 degrees. (Notice that this is at low speed, fan speeds adjust to temps)

CPU 3.8ghz 1.24v under OCCT stress test. Both tests ran for just 30 minutes.

Evo: CPU temp ranging from 58-63 degrees at full speed each fan. Core temps baseline at around low 50s and rise over time to high 50s, would often raise up and then lower. Thus keeping inbetween max temp and lower temp. At time of recording, 58 degree core temp. CPU temp seemed to stay between 60-63.

H100: CPU temp topped out between 52-55 degrees. Core temps between 36-40 degrees, staying at 37 for the most part. That in my opinion is solid, my system also seems to be decently quieter than before.

Further testing: 4.2ghz at 1.32vcore (could probably play around with that voltage a bit... Don't think it needs to be that high for 4.2) 222 bus speed, 19.0 CPU multiplier. 1 hour OCCT test Max CPU temp 61 degrees. Tends to stay around 59. Core max at 48, stays around 44. A 4.5 stable seems unlikely, my chip still is a hot son of a gun. When I get to 1.4+vcore things get a bit too warm at times. I'll play around and see if I can get to 4.3-4 however.

Edit 1: So, oopsie It seems that the fan controller on my H100 doesn't work. No matter what configuration it's at the fans stay at the same speed. Turns out all those temps are with fans running at low speed. Good thing I have this lovely NZXT phantom case (love it) that has a built in fan controller. I decided to disconnect the two side fans from the control and plug in my ap-15s instead. Now I have manual speed. I doubt it'd make a huge difference however next time I stress test I'll have fans set on high. I'm tempted to toss on OCCT and see if there is a difference. We'll see.

Temps are relatively close at idle under 3.8ghz. Under OCCT stress test we can see that while CPU temp stayed a decent 5-10 degrees cooler. Core temps were the big story staying under 40 degrees. That's a 20 degree difference compared to air cooling. And that, my friend, seems to be a pretty good result
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I agree. There's no way the Excaliburs would out perform the Corsair fans. Tomorrow I will be testing the stock Corsair fans vs Corsair SP120 Performance vs Silverstone AP-121 on my H100. I wish I had more fans to test (maybe down the track I'll grab some more fans to test) I'm testing for performance only. Noise levels are of no interest to me.

Sweet. I will be interested to see you're results.
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Yes Mergatroid I replaced all my fans in my case with these CM Excalibur fans, All fans sucking in and the H80 is the only fan drawing air out of my case. Top140mm fan has been taken off and taped up, 3 CM Excalibur fans sucking in and only the H80 letting air out. (my Antec 300 gaming case mk1 has been sealed with Selleys No More Gaps biggrin.gif) So im thinking I have fantastic airflow in my case and as the CM fans on my H80 spin up so do my case fans too via motherboard controlled PWN.
Also rear 120mm CM fan on my H80 radiator which is doing the pulling I electrical taped up the mesh hole around the shroud, so it can only suck air thru the radiator not the sides!
Also my room temp is a constant 19'c so no variation in ambient temp with these tests either.
Well my case is cooler due to the new fans drafting a **** load more air, and maybe since I have a decent positive case pressure its helping the H80 air flow?? Not really sure and yes I was surprised as well to notice a positive gain over stock fans! smile.gif Also using a laser RPM counter on the excalibur fans and in fact spin @ 2300 RPM not 2000RPM stated on box! (maybe some extra pressure gain there and airflow?)
All in all I'm happy

Ok, see that makes sense. You improved the airflow in your entire case, and that is helping your Hydro cooler. So, you should edit your messages with a note saying you replaced all the fans in your case with these fans, and they improved your overall cooling performance.

You can't say the people looking for better cooling should change to Excalibur fans on their rad, because that by itself won't do the job. If they already have really good case fans, then all the Excalibur fans will do is make the system quieter. It's hard to say why the fans are operating faster then their spec. I know the Scythe SS fans I usually use also operated over their spec by about 1K RPM. Maybe they have a high tolerance?

Still, they are good fans and the difference in temps will only be a few degrees. If I see some of these available locally, I think I'll pick some up.

@Xerosnake90

Did you get the same problem with the stock fans? I've heard that there are some fans the H100/80 fan controller won't work on.
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@Xerosnake90
Did you get the same problem with the stock fans? I've heard that there are some fans the H100/80 fan controller won't work on.

I never attached the stock fans, I bought my Ap-15s for a reason and they will be used. They aren't cheap! But its fine, I prefer manual control.
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bought a H40 today, yea i know its crap. but ill be running stock anyway(i7-3770), so it wont matters much. wink.gif

However, the interesting thing is that this cooler outperforms all my other cooler i have bought(hyper tx3 evo, CM V8 and nh-c12p).
So i was really happy with it although there's slight grind noise:mad: Alas, its still an excellent cooler. thumb.gif

btw, is there difference putting the rad with the tube on top or bottom? currently my rad tube is at bottom.
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