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Edited by tw33k - 10/6/12 at 5:53pm
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He posted it here like all other Hydro Coolers who are going away from an All in One do. I don't see anything wrong with it as he's updating the group that he's leaving it for bigger and better cooling. Let's not forget that I've since moved on. I'm only here because I am subscribed to the thread and because I like to help people with my favorite All in One setups. smile.gif
It may have cost more but if you're running Load full time it's more than reasonable to go custom. If you're not Folding 24/7 or doing large file rendering all day long, it's only worth it if you deem that it is. thumb.gif
~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

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I will continue to post here ... I thoroughly enjoy this thread though and will continue to post here I will be giving my H100 away

Agreed ... R+ thumb.gif

EDIT: Personal observations/experience ... There is a sense of pride and accomplishment in building a "custom loop" knowing your doing your very best to maximize your chips performance under the most strenuous applictions/conditions!
I however am one of the many that has gone the other direction and given up their custom loops for the convenience and performance of an "All-in-One"! There are many pro's and cons for both, it's a matter of personal choice. I for one miss the ability to efficiently expand my cooling to the GPU's, not easily done with an "All-in-One" redface.gif
HOWEVER to argue that you need the performance of a "Custom Loop" to cool OC'd chips in strenuos 24/7 applications can easily be argued the other way for the "All-in-One" rolleyes.gif The $Cost of a decent custom loop would more than cover replacing a failed CPU at least once if not 2-3 times depending on the chip itself ... and I have yet to see a chip fail due to heat from a strenuous 24/7 operation using the H100 or H80 ... personally can't say regarding the H60/H40 biggrin.gif

I ran my 955BE 24/7 without a single fail under the H50. The H50 did so well I was able to resell the 955 at 2/3 price of what I paid for it. As far as I am aware the gentleman that bought it from me is still using it. thumb.gif

For a Folding system that doesn't see much if any use besides Folding 24/7(i.e. Gaming, Browsing etc.) I'd go with an All in One and just let it do its thing. My system does everything though so I needed to make sure that it would stay cool no matter what I'm doing on it and my NB on my Formula needed it's own block to keep the temps reasonable. When I had H50 my NB ran in the 50s'. Now that I have a block on the Motherboard my NB runs in the 30s'. I suspect that I will not be going back to an all in one on this system. smile.gif

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Hey guys, I wasn't suggesting that anyone not post. I just asked why he posted the open loop parts here? In his position I would have been all over the open loop water cooling threads.
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I've been running my H100with stock fans/UK-3000. I recently bought 2 Corsair SP-120 to test on the H100. I tested the stock fans, the SP-120s and Silverstone AP-121s. I discovered that having the UK-3000s pulling through the rad, the push fans are of no use. The results where almost identical for each of the 3 fan types. I haven't tested without push fans yet but the results clearly show that the push fans are doing nothing.

3770K @ 4.6GHz 1.24v
I stressed the CPU using AIDA64 for 30 minutes (I realised after the second test that I had run the first test for 34 minutes which made a huge difference to the average temps)
Delta temp is the average load temp minus the ambient temp
Ambient temp was recorded at the start, after 15 minutes and at the end of the test


Edited by tw33k - 10/8/12 at 4:08pm
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That's really strange bud. I noticed an almost 5c difference between my Scythe Slipstream 1900 RPM fans and these Casino fans I purchased:

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX40631

I don't see how those blue LED fans can come close to the stock fans.

Are you plugging them direct into the PSU via molex?
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The fans are connected to my fan controller running at full speed. I think the UK-3000s pulling through the rad make the push fans redundant. After I got the same results for the AP-121s as I did for the stock fans I thought something went wrong and ran them both again

The AP-121s are really good intake fans. They focus airflow into a column that can be channeled through the rad. They create enough pressure to push air as far as 1 metre away apparently
Edited by tw33k - 10/8/12 at 4:14pm
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Hello smile.gif My first post ever but I have been reading alot and found this site to be a great source of information smile.gif

I recently purchased a H80 knowing there would be some issues, but I like to fix things so it was just what I wanted biggrin.gif

The cooler had a problem with the pump, but after following wlw wl's guide on how to make a voltagedropper it works like a charm!

Before I had a NZXT Havic 140, it did a really good job but was much to big imo. It also covered up almost 2 RAM slots. Besides, it wont come close to the performance of the H80.

Uploaded a pic smile.gif
Edited by nonomos - 10/9/12 at 7:54am
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I've been running my H100with stock fans/UK-3000. I recently bought 2 Corsair SP-120 to test on the H100. I tested the stock fans, the SP-120s and Silverstone AP-121s. I discovered that having the UK-3000s pulling through the rad, the push fans are of no use. The results where almost identical for each of the 3 fan types. I haven't tested without push fans yet but the results clearly show that the push fans are doing nothing.
3770K @ 4.6GHz 1.24v
I stressed the CPU using AIDA64 for 30 minutes (I realised after the second test that I had run the first test for 34 minutes which made a huge difference to the average temps)
Delta temp is the average load temp minus the ambient temp
Ambient temp was recorded at the start, after 15 minutes and at the end of the test

Very nice graph! Could be a bit higher resolution though?. ... I guess you proved all you need is the 38mm Delta's screeming @3K rpm in a pull position to get decent performance out of the H100! Which also somewhat supports my theory that "most" push/pull setups are Overkill! redface.gif
You might try repeating the whole process with P95 or IBT which really is the norm by which most of us do our initial testing, AND maybe do a test with the stock fans only in a "push" position (Corsair recommendations) and the UK-3000 in a "pull" only for comparison on the graph? wink.gif

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Hello smile.gif My first post ever but I have been reading alot and found this site to be a great source of information smile.gif
I recently purchased a H80 knowing there would be some issues, but I like to fix things so it was just what I wanted biggrin.gif
The cooler had a problem with the pump, but after following wlw wl's guide on how to make a voltagedropper it works like a charm!
Before I had a NZXT Havic 140, it did a really good job but was much to big imo. It also covered up almost 2 RAM slots. Besides, it wont come close to the performance of the H80.
Uploaded a pic smile.gif

Welcome NoNo! Maybe link us to wlw wl's guide so we can get a better handle (understanding?) of your problem and eventual solution? It's also beneficial to see what kind of performance improvement you got with the H80 over the Havicwith "hard #'s" and test environment wink.gif
Edited by TomcatV - 10/9/12 at 10:59am
 
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Very nice graph! Could be a bit higher resolution though?. ... I agree with Merg your results don't make sense rolleyes.gif You might try repeating the whole process with P95 or IBT which really is the norm by which most of us do our initial testing wink.gif

ummm..did you actually click the graph? wth.gif

The results make perfect sense. The UK 3000s are doing all the work making the push fans redundant
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ummm..did you actually click the graph? wth.gif
The results make perfect sense. The UK 3000s are doing all the work making the push fans redundant

My apologies Tweek ... I misread your post initially (see edit above) ... and yes I clicked on the graph and even DL'd it and Magnified it ... and also tried expanding it in MS paint ...

EDIT: UHHHH nevermind now when I click on it it looks fine ... what a wierd day redface.gif

EDIT2: I'd still be very interested in your results with a test of 1) the stock fans only in a "push" position (Corsair recommendations) ... and 2) only the UK-3000 in a "pull" with P95 or IBT or even AIDA64 for comparison with your setup biggrin.gif
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