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Welcome NoNo! Maybe link us to wlw wl's guide so we can get a better handle (understanding?) of your problem and eventual solution? It's also beneficial to see what kind of performance improvement you got with the H80 over the Havicwith "hard #'s" and test environment wink.gif

Thanks dude smile.gif

Of course tongue.gifhttp://www.overclock.net/g/a/679930/adapters/

The problem basically is a loud pump, no rattle, just loud. Really annoying. Combine that with the stockfans and you have a permanent headache.

With the Havic 140 I had temps at about 40ish (at idle), I had a NZXT H2 case aswell wich tends to get rather warm. So nothing was optimal there, while switching to the H80 I also purchased a HAF 932 Advanced. This has resulted in a much better circulation since my graphicscard is abit oversized. So comparing them is abit unfair since they have 2 totally different conditions tongue.gif But its still a sick improvement in my opinion smile.gif
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Bought another fan to push/pull my corsair... i can definitely tell that its super worth it.. ;P
it lower my cpu temp by ~5C. Very happy and worth it... thumb.gif
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is it wise to get a h100 on sale for 75 now or wait for the coolermaster one to come out?
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Are these good temps for a 4.6 OC? I'm a first timer so I don't know if I used too much voltage as well :S This is an H100 on an i5 2500K running push pull stock corsair fans.

 

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Are these good temps for a 4.6 OC?

Hey dude,

Looks good to me, but at what speed are your fans running?

Heres my clock/temps, at approx. 4,0.

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Bought another fan to push/pull my corsair... i can definitely tell that its super worth it.. ;P
it lower my cpu temp by ~5C. Very happy and worth it... thumb.gif

Very nice! But since your the 1st H40 in this thread (that I know of?) it would be nice to have some more specifics on what make/model/specs your new added fan was? Your final config? (rear/top intake or exhaust?) Lowering your temp -5c is signifigant! but is that at idle, load or both?, what were your ambients, and initial load/idle temps, what monitoring and load stressor programs were used? ... maybe post some screenshots like the guys below biggrin.gif
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is it wise to get a h100 on sale for 75 now or wait for the coolermaster one to come out?

Without more info, system specs and general purpose (see link on my sig) it's hard to give a "complete" opinion. ... BUT it is a nobrainer to pick up an H100 for $75, where the heck is this deal? I thought I got a great deal @$90 way back when. And if your talking about the CM Eisberg depending on which model, you will be paying almost twice as much by the time you get your fans added in there, for a very slight performance boost IMO. But I do think the engineering/build quality/versatility of the Eisberg series is a bit superior ... you get what you pay for ... but in the case of an H100 @$75, your getting way more for your $$$'s biggrin.gif
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Are these good temps for a 4.6 OC? I'm a first timer so I don't know if I used too much voltage as well :S This is an H100 on an i5 2500K running push pull stock corsair fans.

Again without more details (see "SimpleAndClean above) it's hard to give a complete answer. BUT initially those temps look to be bit on the high side? With an 18c idle, I suspect your ambients (room temp) is around 60F-62F?, kinda chilly? And your load temps have some "odd" degree differences 51c-58c-57c-53c if your stressing with P95 or LinX for more than 20min minimum. I notice the "Max" load temps are all within 2-secs of each other and that tells me you didn't run your load stressor for an extended amount of time? Also your voltage is appx .02/.025v higher than mine for the same clock, that could account for slightly higher temps. Also why are you overclocking your BLCK (103.0 MHz)? If your new to this than OC'ing the bus speed can be quite tricky for a stable 24/7 overclock with the 1155 platform? ... And to clarify your running (4) stock Corsair H100 fans right? ... what did Corsair charge for the extra 2 fans (just curious?) and are you running them through the Corsair controller on Low/Med/or High? or a seperate controller?
All in all it looks like your doing a fine job so far! biggrin.gif

EDIT: For reference my 2500K@4.6 1.34v (CPU-Z) running P95 for 30min = Ambient 60F / idle 18c / load 52c-56c with my bastardized push/pull [2-stock Corsair H100 fans pushing / 1 CM 200mm pulling] in a Top Exhaust config using the Corsair controller on the Low setting. wink.gif
@4.8 / 1.432v Prime95 20min A62F/i18c/L58-63-60-59c
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Hey dude,
Looks good to me, but at what speed are your fans running?
Heres my clock/temps, at approx. 4,0.

Hey NoNo, not trying to be a buzz kill, it's great/fun to get new guys in here biggrin.gif but your volts are way high for an unloaded CPU @4.0GHz, ... and your load temps reflect that (your pic shows load 6.2%) which really isn't a good/fair? comparison for HemiRor. ... UNLESS your running "Fixed" voltage? and I'm not sure why you'd be doing that unless your going for Max clocks? Suicides? ... In which case we might se 1.4++ - 1.5v voltages???
I suspect your "screenies" were not taken at the same time under the same load? rolleyes.gif

Guys please try and post with more complete info, it's beneficial for you and the whole community wink.gif

@Tweek ... are you going to do a test with the stock fans only in a "push" position (Corsair recommendations) and the UK-3000 in a "pull" only for comparison on the graph? I know I'm not the only one interested in your expanded results? thumb.gif

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Hey NoNo, not trying to be a buzz kill, it's great/fun to get new guys in here biggrin.gif but your volts are way high for an unloaded CPU @4.0GHz, ... and your load temps reflect that (your pic shows load 6.2%) which really isn't a good/fair? comparison for HemiRor. ... UNLESS your running "Fixed" voltage? and I'm not sure why you'd be doing that unless your going for Max clocks? Suicides? ... In which case we might se 1.4++ - 1.5v voltages???
I suspect your "screenies" were not taken at the same time under the same load? rolleyes.gif
Guys please try and post with more complete info, it's beneficial for you and the whole community wink.gif

Hey dude smile.gif Thanks for giving input smile.gif The clock is done by OC genius tongue.gif I am still new to these things to bare with me please. And you are of course correct, my image was a poor comparison but it seemed logical at the time lol.

So I should lower my voltages eh? smile.gif By how much?
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Again without more details (see "SimpleAndClean above) it's hard to give a complete answer. BUT initially those temps look to be bit on the high side? With an 18c idle, I suspect your ambients (room temp) is around 60F-62F?, kinda chilly? And your load temps have some "odd" degree differences 51c-58c-57c-53c if your stressing with P95 or LinX for more than 20min minimum. I notice the "Max" load temps are all within 2-secs of each other and that tells me you didn't run your load stressor for an extended amount of time? Also your voltage is appx .02/.025v higher than mine for the same clock, that could account for slightly higher temps. Also why are you overclocking your BLCK (103.0 MHz)? If your new to this than OC'ing the bus speed can be quite tricky for a stable 24/7 overclock with the 1155 platform? ... And to clarify your running (4) stock Corsair H100 fans right? ... what did Corsair charge for the extra 2 fans (just curious?) and are you running them through the Corsair controller on Low/Med/or High? or a seperate controller?
All in all it looks like your doing a fine job so far! biggrin.gif
EDIT: For reference my 2500K@4.6 1.34v (CPU-Z) running P95 for 30min = Ambient 60F / idle 18c / load 52c-56c with my bastardized push/pull [2-stock Corsair H100 fans pushing / 1 CM 200mm pulling] in a Top Exhaust config using the Corsair controller on the Low setting. wink.gif
@4.8 / 1.432v Prime95 20min A62F/i18c/L58-63-60-59c
 

Oh, sorry. Forgot to say that those were my temps with prime running full blast in the background if that's what you are confused about? Here they are at idle, And one of them full load for 8 or so hours. The other two corsair fans are actually from my C70, not sure if they are the same model as those that come with the H100 (Although they look identical) They seem to be doing the job for now. Ultimately I'd like to buy 4xSp120 High performance corsair fans. The pump controller is set to full blast, but, if I change it to the quiet setting my fan speeds don't seem to change at all? No audible differences either. The TIM I used was this guy: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100017 I burned it in for a 24-hour session a few days ago and all seemed to be quite stable so far. What should the BLCK really be at optimally for a clock like this? (Excuse my noobiness to this :3) Think I could probably bump my voltage down a wee bit then as well? If you'd like I'd be glad to provide a picture of how airflow is setup inside my rig. As for the ambient temp, it can really vary. I'm in the basement, so the fireplace goes on and off occasionally. Temp ranges between 58-71F mostly. The temp for idle levels at about 18-19c once running for a while. The screeny below was after boot-up.

 

 


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ummm..did you actually click the graph? wth.gif
The results make perfect sense. The UK 3000s are doing all the work making the push fans redundant

In other words, just push or pull for an H100 is fine. However, on a thicker rad push/pull does have an advantage.
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is it wise to get a h100 on sale for 75 now or wait for the coolermaster one to come out?

Lol, you're asking in the Hydro thread? Of course, go with the H100...lol...seriously though, I haven't seen anything on the new CM unit, although one or two people have mentioned it. Do you have a link to share? I have seen some of their older units, and I would easily prefer an H100.

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Are these good temps for a 4.6 OC? I'm a first timer so I don't know if I used too much voltage as well :S This is an H100 on an i5 2500K running push pull stock corsair fans.

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Hey dude,
Looks good to me, but at what speed are your fans running?
Heres my clock/temps, at approx. 4,0.

Those temps are super low. What are you guys using to load the system for the temp tests? I don't see anything in your pictures indicating what percentage your CPUs are running at. Without this data your temps are pretty meaningless information.

Include in your screenshots Prime 95 running for a half hour, or even better Intel Burn Test running at half an hour. That software will fully load your CPUs and really give you an idea of how good the temps are. Watch out with Intel Burn Test though because it really tortures the system. Keep your eye on the temps while it's running.

Running Intel Burn Test for a half hour, with my system also running Furmark to add additional heat from the video cards, my H100 cooled i5 running at 4.3 GHz will hit 70c. My target for this processor was to keep the cpu under 73c using this software.

I agree with @TomcatV.

Many people are posting temps and tests, but not giving the relevant data or not using any standard software like Furmark, Prime95 or Intel Burn Test. Without doing this, and providing an ambient temperature and idle temperature, there's really no point posting at all.

When I torture test my system, I run CPU monitoring software, GPU monitoring software, CPUz to show the frequency the CPU is running at, and both (Prime95 and Furmark) or (Intel Burn Test and Frumark) to provide a load for the load test. I should note that I stress test my entire system, so that's why I add Furmark in there. Testing without Furmark is valid for CPU only testing.

As an example, here is a picture of a test I did a while ago. I use two monitors so I can run a full screen Furmark to generate gpu heat, and I can display the temp monitoring and other software on the second monitor:



That image was testing my older Core 2 Quad which was overclocked to 3.3GHz from 2.5GHz. However, that's the way I always stress test my system although now I usually use Intel Burn Test over Prime 95 because IBT really beats the crap out of your CPU.

The point is to have a maximum load for temperature tests, and an Idle test, and compare the temps between the two making sure the ambient is the same for both tests, or at least taking it into account.

So, unfortunately, without knowing your ambient, and what you were running, I cannot compare your i5 temps to mine.
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Oh, sorry. Forgot to say that those were my temps with prime running full blast in the background if that's what you are confused about? Here they are at idle, And one of them full load for 8 or so hours. The other two corsair fans are actually from my C70, not sure if they are the same model as those that come with the H100 (Although they look identical) They seem to be doing the job for now. Ultimately I'd like to buy 4xSp120 High performance corsair fans. The pump controller is set to full blast, but, if I change it to the quiet setting my fan speeds don't seem to change at all? No audible differences either. The TIM I used was this guy: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100017 I burned it in for a 24-hour session a few days ago and all seemed to be quite stable so far. What should the BLCK really be at optimally for a clock like this? (Excuse my noobiness to this :3) Think I could probably bump my voltage down a wee bit then as well? If you'd like I'd be glad to provide a picture of how airflow is setup inside my rig. As for the ambient temp, it can really vary. I'm in the basement, so the fireplace goes on and off occasionally. Temp ranges between 58-71F mostly. The temp for idle levels at about 18-19c once running for a while. The screeny below was after boot-up. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)



That's a lot better indicator. Those temps are quite low for a loaded i5. Try running IBT for a half hour and see if there's a difference. Just FYI, the TIM on the H80/100 is actually excellent TIM. Corsair claims it's as good as Shin Etsu TIM.
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Push/pull would be beneficial with lower spec fans but not when mixing with UK-3000s
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