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Those temps are super low. What are you guys using to load the system for the temp tests? I don't see anything in your pictures indicating what percentage your CPUs are running at. Without this data your temps are pretty meaningless information.
Include in your screenshots Prime 95 running for a half hour, or even better Intel Burn Test running at half an hour. That software will fully load your CPUs and really give you an idea of how good the temps are. Watch out with Intel Burn Test though because it really tortures the system. Keep your eye on the temps while it's running.
Running Intel Burn Test for a half hour, with my system also running Furmark to add additional heat from the video cards, my H100 cooled i5 running at 4.3 GHz will hit 70c. My target for this processor was to keep the cpu under 73c using this software.
I agree with @TomcatV.

Thanks for your input, I am too still a novice so I really appreciate this smile.gif Sorry for posting meaningless info btw smile.gif

I got the Prime 95 and ran for for 30ish minutes.

As TomcatV said, he thought I had high voltages, as I have not adjusted this myself, what voltage should I have?
And is there any reason for the cores to have that much of a temp diff? Is it normal?
Edited by nonomos - 10/11/12 at 11:57pm
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Welcome Nonomos wave2.gif There's no such thing as meaningless info as far as I am concerned. thumb.gif
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I'm contemplating on the H80 or the H100. I think in going to go with the H100. I read that i will fit just fine on my Corsair 600T SE case. I'm using the Phenom II x6 on a Sabertooth 990FX. Any Idea what kind of temps are normal if i went that rout? Right now i get 22 C with the Cooler Master TPC-812. I know i can get colder. Any suggestions or comments will def be appreciated. thumb.gif
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Hey dude smile.gif Thanks for giving input smile.gif The clock is done by OC genius tongue.gif I am still new to these things to bare with me please. And you are of course correct, my image was a poor comparison but it seemed logical at the time lol.
So I should lower my voltages eh? smile.gif By how much?

No problem, that's why were here smile.gif ... However as your knowledge/experience grows I think you'll find that Overclocking directly through your bios is not only more effective but more FUN wink.gif Most of us are not big fans of software overclocking (OC Genius rolleyes.gif) , and consequently are not well versed in it redface.gif Quick answer--> if OC Genious is using a "fixed voltage" which kind of defeats the awesomness of the Intell/1155 platform then NO but maybe yes??? ... And to get into it here in the Hydro thread wouldn't be appropriate ... check [THIS] thread out for starters and then possibly start your own thread as you become more familiar with the process. You'll find the OCN community extremely helpful thumb.gif

You might like this guide to as it is more catered to newer overclockers even though it is oriented towards ASRock boards ...
http://www.overclock.net/t/1198504/complete-overclocking-guide-sandy-bridge-ivy-bridge-asrock-edition

Sins Ivy Bridge OC Guide is excellent also! [HERE] and 95% applicable to SB.

Your doing fine ... no "gross" or immediate concerns that I can see ... the temp variation in your cores while on the larger side is nothing out of the norm ... and your core voltage 1.352v now@100% load as pictured, could be lower BUT is not out of the "norm" either ... you'll know what I mean as you delve into the links above ... Also see my comments about IBT below wink.gif

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Oh, sorry. Forgot to say that those were my temps with prime running full blast in the background if that's what you are confused about? Here they are at idle, And one of them full load for 8 or so hours. The other two corsair fans are actually from my C70, not sure if they are the same model as those that come with the H100 (Although they look identical) They seem to be doing the job for now. Ultimately I'd like to buy 4xSp120 High performance corsair fans. The pump controller is set to full blast, but, if I change it to the quiet setting my fan speeds don't seem to change at all? No audible differences either. The TIM I used was this guy: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100017 I burned it in for a 24-hour session a few days ago and all seemed to be quite stable so far. What should the BLCK really be at optimally for a clock like this? (Excuse my noobiness to this :3) Think I could probably bump my voltage down a wee bit then as well? If you'd like I'd be glad to provide a picture of how airflow is setup inside my rig. As for the ambient temp, it can really vary. I'm in the basement, so the fireplace goes on and off occasionally. Temp ranges between 58-71F mostly. The temp for idle levels at about 18-19c once running for a while. The screeny below was after boot-up.

Very Good ... I think your doing fine, but with your wildly varying "Ambient" temp range it's hard to comment or be more specific unless you can specify your ambients at the time of the screenshot.
I suspect the 2 fans from the old H70 aren't compatable with the H100 controller, and originally the H70 was sold with no fans so the end-user could choose their own. So who knows for sure which model they are? Try disconnecting those two fans and see if you regain control of the (2) stock H100 fans ... you may be surprised how well they perform on their own wink.gif ...

Also please heed Mergatron? ... Mergatroid's advice regarding the use of IBT, I only use it to MAX test/stress a cooling system as I don't believe it is a viable indication of "Real World" CPU stress/loads redface.gif With IBT properly pumping 110w-115w / 110+ G-Flops you can see your load temps as much as 10c higher than a normal P95 Blend test depending on the chip/board/OC/volts/and cooling. For reference my setup runs 5-7c hotter with IBT redface.gif

Edit: OOOpps "Mergatron"? Must have been in my "Transformers" character mode redface.gif Apologies LoL

EDIT: Regarding your base clock sometimes denoted as "Host Overide Base Clock"(BCLK), in your bios, I'd set it to 100.0 for now, but also note if "Spread Spectrum" is set to default "Auto" your BCLK may read as 98.??? or something not exactly 100.0, which is OK, but a little annoying to see your 4.6 overclock reading 4.598 or something slightly under a 4.60GHz OC. And if you disable Spread Spectrum, alot of guys do, just be aware it "can?" cause some instability (including peripherals) that is hard to track down ...you'll know what I mean if you dive into some of my OC links for NoNo above wink.gif
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Push/pull would be beneficial with lower spec fans but not when mixing with UK-3000s
I still think your graph would be even more awesom if you added in the push only pull only variances I suggested earlier wink.gif Then I would graciously link to you and your graph regarding the push/pull/$$$/performance debates that come up quite often biggrin.gif
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I'm contemplating on the H80 or the H100. I think in going to go with the H100. I read that i will fit just fine on my Corsair 600T SE case. I'm using the Phenom II x6 on a Sabertooth 990FX. Any Idea what kind of temps are normal if i went that rout? Right now i get 22 C with the Cooler Master TPC-812. I know i can get colder. Any suggestions or comments will def be appreciated. thumb.gif

It has been said countless times in this thread, to go with the H100 over the H80 if you have the room ... and even more so if you can find MarkX's $75 dollar deal! In a nutshell the H80 comes pretty close to the H100's performance for an "average OC?" but at the expence of more "noise" doing so wink.gif
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I don't see anything in your pictures indicating what percentage your CPUs are running at. Without this data your temps are pretty meaningless information.
Hey Merg I know you know this, but the CPU load can be read at the top of the "Real Temp" graph right in the middle ... This is why I originally commented his CPU volts were high, as in NoNo's 1st screenshot he was showing 1.344v (CPU-Z) @4.0GHz clock with only a 6.2% load, that's essentially an "idle" load, but with his "turbo" cpu clocks engaged, in any event that graph is hard to replicate at those clocks and load %'s for any real value for comparisons "as you stated" wink.gif

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Thanks for your input, I am too still a novice so I really appreciate this smile.gif Sorry for posting meaningless info btw smile.gif
I got the Prime 95 and ran for for 30ish minutes.

As TomcatV said, he thought I had high voltages, as I have not adjusted this myself, what voltage should I have?
And is there any reason for the cores to have that much of a temp diff? Is it normal?

It's no problem. I did the same thing the first couple of times I posted temp tests. The guys in this and the Graphite thread got me doing it better. Your max temps look pretty good for a 4.2 GHz clock. A little better than mine I think (although I'm not using the stock fans). When I say my system is hitting 70c I am referring to my hottest core with an ambient of about 23c. I also have a fair difference between cores. I would say you got it working really well. I just let my system do the overclocking, and when it was done, I tweaked it up until I hit 73c and then backed it off 200 MHz. I didn't adjust my voltages at all. I'm getting a 1GHz overclock out of it so I'm happy.

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Welcome Nonomos wave2.gif There's no such thing as meaningless info as far as I am concerned. thumb.gif

Really?

32c

What's that mean? Pretty meaningless by itself, isn't it?
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I'm contemplating on the H80 or the H100. I think in going to go with the H100. I read that i will fit just fine on my Corsair 600T SE case. I'm using the Phenom II x6 on a Sabertooth 990FX. Any Idea what kind of temps are normal if i went that rout? Right now i get 22 C with the Cooler Master TPC-812. I know i can get colder. Any suggestions or comments will def be appreciated. thumb.gif

Yeah, they fit great in the 600T. If you're not already a member, you should join the Graphite thread. There are lots of 600Ts there running the H100.

See, this is an example of meaningless data. You get 22c when? Unloaded or loaded? When it's winter and your system is outside or when your at your cousins house in the outback, in mid summer, with no air conditioning?

22c is basically room temperature. You should not be able to achieve room temperature CPU temps with that cooler. My temp just browsing as I am now, with an i5 cooled by the H100, and an ambient temp of 22c (at the moment) is 36c to 41c with the really crappy Casino fans on my H100 I haven't gotten around to replacing yet. I don't know what's normal for your CPU, but I do know you won't achieve temps lower than ambient.

@TomcatV

Actually, the H70 CORE comes without fans, but the original H70 from last year did come with fans, so it depends on which version he's using if it came with fans or not.

"Mergatron"...lol...

One more little thing to mention regarding clocks. I always manually force my PCI bus clock to stay at 100MHz. I have had a few PCI peripherals fail to operate properly when the PCI clock is only 3MHz over 100. I don't know if this is normal or not, but it has happened to my last two ASUS motherboards. In one, a USB 3.0 card failed to be recognized as a USB 3.0 card and would only show up as a USB 2.0 card until I corrected the PCI bus speed to 100 MHz. That drove me nuts for a week or so (and the guys at Microsoft too). I honestly didn't think 3MHz would make any difference. Maybe it was a touchy card, but on my newer ASUS board I also had some little glitch, but I corrected it right away by reducing the PCI bus clock speed again. Whatever can go wrong will go wrong as Murphy's Law states.
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Very nice! But since your the 1st H40 in this thread (that I know of?) it would be nice to have some more specifics on what make/model/specs your new added fan was? Your final config? (rear/top intake or exhaust?) Lowering your temp -5c is signifigant! but is that at idle, load or both?, what were your ambients, and initial load/idle temps, what monitoring and load stressor programs were used? ... maybe post some screenshots like the guys below biggrin.gif

2x noctua P12 for my PP setup. running rear intake.
the 5C drop is at idle. on load just around ~2C drop from 55C(1 fan rear intake). (room temp = 21C).

Untitleaad.jpg

i notice something bit odd, it seems that both of my fan does not run at similar speed.
although i have disable fan control so it ran full speed. I have also notice my pump ran slightly slower by 50rpm.
i moved my pump from chassis #3 to cpu.

is it normal that the fan or pump running diff speed at different mobo pin? or something wrong with my mobo? rolleyes.gif
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60c on the h70 (or whatever that was) with a 2500k ocd to 4.2ghz? My 212+ keeps my 2500k at 70c with a 670 running full steam ahead too when folding! One stock fan in the 212+. 2500k is at 4.7ghz @ 1.42vcore
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2x noctua P12 for my PP setup. running rear intake.
the 5C drop is at idle. on load just around ~2C drop from 55C(1 fan rear intake). (room temp = 21C).
Untitleaad.jpg
i notice something bit odd, it seems that both of my fan does not run at similar speed.
although i have disable fan control so it ran full speed. I have also notice my pump ran slightly slower by 50rpm.
i moved my pump from chassis #3 to cpu.
is it normal that the fan or pump running diff speed at different mobo pin? or something wrong with my mobo? rolleyes.gif

Very nice and thankyou +R for you thumb.gif, your info will be helpful in the future, as many of us aren't to familiar w/the H40. It looks like your getting all you can get out of the H40 with those "highly reputable" Noctua's! And I'm unexpectedly impressed with the performance of the Corsair entry level AIO. Though I'd suggest using "Real Temp"
[HERE] as a monitoring program, most of us do and it keeps diagnoses more consistant. You might also find HWMonitor useful as well [HERE].

I don't think there is anything wrong with your motherboard, it is not unusual for fans (even high quality ones like yours) to run at slightly different RPM's, even as much as 100rpm, maybe more? I haven't seen a motherboard yet that puts out completely "synched" power for auxillary fans, even Asus who has the best IMO bios fan controll. You'd need a dedicated fan controller for that. AND as Corsair recommends your pump should be connected to the CPU fan connector, it will also allow you to have a more accurate reading in the bios of your pump speed wink.gif

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60c on the h70 (or whatever that was) with a 2500k ocd to 4.2ghz? My 212+ keeps my 2500k at 70c with a 670 running full steam ahead too when folding! One stock fan in the 212+. 2500k is at 4.7ghz @ 1.42vcore

Yea it's hard to beat the 212+ for performance/dollar! But let's face it ...

"You are not as "Cool" as us" biggrin.gif

E-Peen anyone thumb.gif
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Very nice and thankyou +R for you thumb.gif, your info will be helpful in the future, as many of us aren't to familiar w/the H40. It looks like your getting all you can get out of the H40 with those "highly reputable" Noctua's! And I'm unexpectedly impressed with the performance of the Corsair entry level AIO. Though I'd suggest using "Real Temp"
[HERE] as a monitoring program, most of us do and it keeps diagnoses more consistant. You might also find HWMonitor useful as well [HERE].
I don't think there is anything wrong with your motherboard, it is not unusual for fans (even high quality ones like yours) to run at slightly different RPM's, even as much as 100rpm, maybe more? I haven't seen a motherboard yet that puts out completely "synched" power for auxillary fans, even Asus who has the best IMO bios fan controll. You'd need a dedicated fan controller for that. AND as Corsair recommends your pump should be connected to the CPU fan connector, it will also allow you to have a more accurate reading in the bios of your pump speed wink.gif
Yea it's hard to beat the 212+ for performance/dollar! But let's face it ...
"You are not as "Cool" as us" biggrin.gif
E-Peen anyone thumb.gif
tongue.gif you're jealous of my...my. ...huge ugly heatsink!
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PC Probe II is pretty damned good for reporting Temperatures as well. So if you have an ASUS board I'd recommend running that. Mine is on 24/7. thumb.gif

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