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Installed my H80i last night with SP120 Quiet edition fans, skipped the stock fans. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Looks Good! thumb.gif
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Installed my H80i last night with SP120 Quiet edition fans, skipped the stock fans. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Nice ... Looks Good thumb.gif BUT doesn't tell us anything redface.gif

I'm sure I'm not alone in that I'd like more info? ... Like comparative load temps between the QE and HP edition fans in your "real world" setup? ... is your 2600K overclocked? ... How bout even your "subjective" opinion on how much quieter you think they are and at what loss of performance ... if any?

Obviously noise was the concern, so for the cost of the Quiet edition fans, maybe? you could've stepped up to the H100i and recieved comparable performance with less noise which was definately obtainable with the H100 vs H80? ...

Over and over again I see the question asked? ... should I get the H80/(i) or the H100/(i) ...
So any and all info is Helpful thumb.gif

PS ... H100/H100i easily fits into the CM 912 ... see [HERE]

EDIT: Overclocker55 ... I think THIS is a VERY USEFUL thread and should somehow be linked on your Thread Starter/cover page thumb.gif ... one of the top 5 questions is ... will a H100 fit in my case?
Edited by TomcatV - 1/17/13 at 12:29pm
 
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Nice ... Looks Good thumb.gif BUT doesn't tell us anything redface.gif

I'm sure I'm not alone in that I'd like more info? ... Like comparative load temps between the QE and HP edition fans in your "real world" setup? ... is your 2600K overclocked? ... How bout even your "subjective" opinion on how much quieter you think they are and at what loss of performance ... if any?

Obviously noise was the concern, so for the cost of the Quiet edition fans, maybe? you could've stepped up to the H100i and recieved comparable performance with less noise which was definately obtainable with the H100 vs H80? ...

Over and over again I see the question asked? ... should I get the H80/(i) or the H100/(i) ...
So any and all info is Helpful thumb.gif

PS ... H100/H100i easily fits into the CM 912 ... see [HERE]

Well I turned my OC down to 4ghz and using Prime95 100% load or Intel Burn Test it wasn't going over 60c. My room temp is around 23c so the delta is right around the 40c range. I've only been using it for a day so I plan to increase my OC and compare my previous cooler (CM Hyper 212+ push/pull) temps. I may even try the stock fans just to see what kind of performance difference I might be missing out on from those higher RPM fans.

With regards to H100i vs H80i, it was a price and the "will it fit" argument. The H100i needs 50mm of clearance on the roof of the case, standard fan is 25mm so I put two together and in my opinion, didn't like the way it looked and how close may have come to the ram. With that said, I picked up the H80i on sale, then of course turned around and used the savings to buy SP120 quiet twin pack (best value) which were also on sale. thumb.gif

I like my system quiet and some reviews on the fans that come with the H100i/H80i said they're loud. I also happen to like the SP120 fans they sell seperate more because of they have a quiet version and come with color rings to match the rig. It all comes down to personal preference but I like the results I'm getting.
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I have found from reading a lot that the H100i is about 3 to 5 C cooler than the H80i so if you have the room since the price is not much different I would go with the H100i. When I was running with no bottom fan and just the 2 120s that came with the C70 for intake it was not as cool as I was when I added an AF 140 quiet in the bottom so the intake flow would be as much as the exhaust, also the fans SP's pushing through the radiator never needed to go higher than balanced - just under 1400 rpm - so the system stayed very quiet and cool. My case has a lot of room and great airflow so others that don't may get different results. The 3 degrees would not make much of a difference to me because I run cool but the H80i would cover up the mobo and I would rather have it over my VRMs.
Edited by Devildog83 - 1/17/13 at 3:12pm
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Very cool, I wonder if the H90 would work well for a GPU cooler ? I could fit it in the bottom of my case easy.
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I just got a H100i that is kind of starting to let me down at the moment. The problem is, that before the h100i I had an Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro which could handle my i5-3570k very well even with small overclocking (4.2 - 4.4 GHz); it held the temps well under 80 degrees C even at 4.4 under full stress in Prime. Only one core barely got over 80 degrees, somewhere close to 82 or something like that.
ANYWAY, to get back to the reason I started this thread. After installing the H100i water cooling system on my rig, I got temps reaching 80 degrees very quick, and with only 4.2 GHz overclock. I mounted the H100i as intake (as suggested in the manual) with the 2 stock fans it came with. After the dissapointing temps I mounted 2 extra fans, so I would have a push-pull configuration. The changed wasn't that noticeable. So I changed the thermal paste on the cpu with some Arctic Silver Ceramique 2. This helped a bit, because now my temps stay under 80 degrees on 4.2GHz and barely reach 80 on 4.4GHz.
MY PROBLEM is that I'm getting the same temps with my H100i that I got with my Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro air cooler. I spent a lot more on a water cooling system just to get the same results I was getting with an air cooling system that was 3-4 times cheaper.
So MY QUESTION is: is there anything I could do to get better performance out of my H100i so I wouldn't feel like I threw money out the window?

My case is a NZXT Gamma, the h100i radiator is mounted on the top of the case as an intake. I got a pretty cool case, I've never had issues with high temps, because it is full of fans that are mounted as they should and do their job very well. For example: my MSI Gtx 660 TwinFrz3 is at 28 degrees in idle, and never reaches 56 in full load; my cpu (with my old air cooler) was on idle at 21-24 degrees and 60 in full load (not in prime). Everything in my case stays pretty cool, so there is nothing that should make the H100i not do it's job as it should.
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Got my H100i installed and been running it for a few days. No ploblems, newest firmware already, and mid 20's to low 30's temps on my 3770K. I'm impressed so far.


Can't wait to get a H80i and tear both of these apart to make my new tec chiller! Then I can get back to 0*C temps.

Oh, and I'll be getting a new psu next week and cleaning up all those wires! Build is still in progress....
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I just got a H100i that is kind of starting to let me down at the moment. The problem is, that before the h100i I had an Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro which could handle my i5-3570k very well even with small overclocking (4.2 - 4.4 GHz); it held the temps well under 80 degrees C even at 4.4 under full stress in Prime. Only one core barely got over 80 degrees, somewhere close to 82 or something like that.
ANYWAY, to get back to the reason I started this thread. After installing the H100i water cooling system on my rig, I got temps reaching 80 degrees very quick, and with only 4.2 GHz overclock. I mounted the H100i as intake (as suggested in the manual) with the 2 stock fans it came with. After the dissapointing temps I mounted 2 extra fans, so I would have a push-pull configuration. The changed wasn't that noticeable. So I changed the thermal paste on the cpu with some Arctic Silver Ceramique 2. This helped a bit, because now my temps stay under 80 degrees on 4.2GHz and barely reach 80 on 4.4GHz.
MY PROBLEM is that I'm getting the same temps with my H100i that I got with my Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro air cooler. I spent a lot more on a water cooling system just to get the same results I was getting with an air cooling system that was 3-4 times cheaper.
So MY QUESTION is: is there anything I could do to get better performance out of my H100i so I wouldn't feel like I threw money out the window?

My case is a NZXT Gamma, the h100i radiator is mounted on the top of the case as an intake. I got a pretty cool case, I've never had issues with high temps, because it is full of fans that are mounted as they should and do their job very well. For example: my MSI Gtx 660 TwinFrz3 is at 28 degrees in idle, and never reaches 56 in full load; my cpu (with my old air cooler) was on idle at 21-24 degrees and 60 in full load (not in prime). Everything in my case stays pretty cool, so there is nothing that should make the H100i not do it's job as it should.

Are you running the fans in pull? The static pressure fans are built for and work best in push, there is no reason to have static pressure fans if they are not pushing through the radiator. I would run them in push as exhaust instead of intake and if you want to try push/pull use some quiet high volume fans like the AF quiets. I don't know why is says to run as intake but it makes no sense to me. AMD's don't get as hot as Intel chips but mine never goes above 50C. I just have it set up as exhaust in a pull configuration and it work very nicely.
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Did you read some of the comments?

Wow.

The H90 looks like an H70 pump with a H60 rad, and the H110 looks like an H70 pump with an H100 rad. Of course, the pump could have been upgraded since the H70.
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Are you running the fans in pull? The static pressure fans are built for and work best in push, there is no reason to have static pressure fans if they are not pushing through the radiator. I would run them in push as exhaust instead of intake and if you want to try push/pull use some quiet high volume fans like the AF quiets. I don't know why is says to run as intake but it makes no sense to me. AMD's don't get as hot as Intel chips but mine never goes above 50C. I just have it set up as exhaust in a pull configuration and it work very nicely.

Do you have a link to this information? From what I have seen, there is almost no difference between push and pull. Some claim there is a small difference at different RPMs, but overall people who have tested push vs pull on the hydro coolers have reported little to no difference between push and pull. I believe you can find some of those tests right here in this thread. I have also seen people comparing push vs pull in the 600T thread.

Here is a link to some push vs pull testing:

http://martinsliquidlab.i4memory.com/Radiator-Fan-Orientation-And-Shroud-Testing-Review.html

From the article: "Push Vs Pull - This depends on fan speed/power. The high speed fans at 2000RPM with a 38mm fan thickness provided the best performance in a push condition. The slow speed fans with 1350RPM with a 25mm fan thickness provided the best performance in a pull condition. I would estimate that performance line is likely to cross in the 1500-1700RPM range where they are equal. So.... slow speed = pull, high speed = push, medium speed = it doesn't really matter."

If you look at the temperature difference he got between push and pull, it's almost nothing. Between the single fan push only vs pull only, he got a difference of about 0.3c.
Edited by Mergatroid - 1/17/13 at 7:13pm
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