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Turned to youtube and sure enough found a video labeled "H100 flow" that showed the same trickle I had from mine. I'd link the video direct but can't access Youtube at work.

Yeah, that's an incredibly pathetic flow rate... I can urinate faster than that.
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Any chance we can get a corsair rep to confirm flow rates per pump?
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So pulled my unit down last night to re-apply some arctic silver 5 to the processor and since I have a reservoir modded into my H80 i decided to take a look at the waterflow characteristics through this 1/4" id x 3/8" od tubing.

I'm very disappointed to say the least. There's barely a trickle coming out of this thing. I was concerned that perhaps my pump was going bad and tore the unit down to check for any clogging and nothing was found anywhere. Turned to youtube and sure enough found a video labeled "H100 flow" that showed the same trickle I had from mine.
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Yeah, that's an incredibly pathetic flow rate... I can urinate faster than that.

Khan ... "He Tasks Me" ... famous quote wink.gif

Are you guys serious? For $95 what did you expect? It's all about the money and "marketing" my friend and Corsair is quite popular and successful for a reason! For what they are (AIO) @ affordable prices you can't beat them for performance/$$$ biggrin.gif

You want to perform with the "Big Boys" (custom loops) ...

You gotta "Pay to Play" ... redface.gif

CORSAIR job opportunities HERE thumb.gif
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I gotta pay to play, but pay with what? chocolate coins?
I haven't got the real currency for real water cooling frown.gif

You're right though, for what we spend we get alright performance and a 5 year warranty rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by mavisky View Post

So pulled my unit down last night to re-apply some arctic silver 5 to the processor and since I have a reservoir modded into my H80 i decided to take a look at the waterflow characteristics through this 1/4" id x 3/8" od tubing.

I'm very disappointed to say the least. There's barely a trickle coming out of this thing. I was concerned that perhaps my pump was going bad and tore the unit down to check for any clogging and nothing was found anywhere. Turned to youtube and sure enough found a video labeled "H100 flow" that showed the same trickle I had from mine. I'd link the video direct but can't access Youtube at work. I realize now that the pump in this thing is the letdown by far, not sure if the H80i/H100i have a better pump but I sincerely hope so. Looking to sell this off and move to a real cold plate/radiator setup now.

I would check the orientation of the RAD first, but also I have taken apart and tested many of the H100i's I even have a Mod to turn it into a dedicated waterblock, But if it was working good before your problem is that it lost prime, the pump is a magnetic floating propeller type so it can be ran dry but requires priming to flow at all! However if you have been having bad temps you may have a defective one, I had the same problem and decided to tear down one for that reason(why the mod started rolleyes.gif ) and as it turns out the PCB was putting out hardly any voltage! But since you have dissasymbled yours already the warranty is voided. I have heard though if you call and tell them that it failed as soon as you plugged it in and you heard a pop sound and it started smoking then they will send you a replacement without requiring you to send the old one back(im assuming because they think at that point it is not cost effective to refurbish and resell anyway redface.gif I too was discussed by the fact that the damn tubing is so big but only had 1/4ID tubeing and 1/4ID fittings, I actually bored mine out before modding! tongue.gif

PICS of my testing and mod!













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Are you guys serious? For $95 what did you expect? It's all about the money and "marketing" my friend and Corsair is quite popular and successful for a reason! For what they are (AIO) @ affordable prices you can't beat them for performance/$$$ biggrin.gif

You want to perform with the "Big Boys" (custom loops) ...

You gotta "Pay to Play" ... redface.gif

I actually added a standalone custom loop for my two gpu's, and I wasn't expecting that sort of flow from this Corsair unit, but this is just absurdly low. After opening it up I can see why though as the pump itself is teeny tiny and half of the internals are taken up by the pcb and the connectors for the temp sensor and motor itself. I'd have rather the block been another 1/2" taller and paid another $10 into the price for the pump had I known the flow rate would be THIS weak.

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I would check the orientation of the RAD first, but also I have taken apart and tested many of the H100i's I even have a Mod to turn it into a dedicated waterblock, But if it was working good before your problem is that it lost prime, the pump is a magnetic floating propeller type so it can be ran dry but requires priming to flow at all! However if you have been having bad temps you may have a defective one, I had the same problem and decided to tear down one for that reason(why the mod started rolleyes.gif ) and as it turns out the PCB was putting out hardly any voltage! But since you have dissasymbled yours already the warranty is voided. I have heard though if you call and tell them that it failed as soon as you plugged it in and you heard a pop sound and it started smoking then they will send you a replacement without requiring you to send the old one back(im assuming because they think at that point it is not cost effective to refurbish and resell anyway redface.gif I too was discussed by the fact that the damn tubing is so big but only had 1/4ID tubeing and 1/4ID fittings, I actually bored mine out before modding! tongue.gif

I ran it in about every configuration possible, the only thing I didn't try was to see how much it would actually pump without a radiator, mainly because that information really isn't relevant. If it's a firehose without a rad and a trickle with one, then who cares, it's the performance in a complete loop we're concerned about, not how fast it can drain a bucket.
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I actually added a standalone custom loop for my two gpu's, and I wasn't expecting that sort of flow from this Corsair unit, but this is just absurdly low. After opening it up I can see why though as the pump itself is teeny tiny and half of the internals are taken up by the pcb and the connectors for the temp sensor and motor itself. I'd have rather the block been another 1/2" taller and paid another $10 into the price for the pump had I known the flow rate would be THIS weak.
I ran it in about every configuration possible, the only thing I didn't try was to see how much it would actually pump without a radiator, mainly because that information really isn't relevant. If it's a firehose without a rad and a trickle with one, then who cares, it's the performance in a complete loop we're concerned about, not how fast it can drain a bucket.

I do understand where you're coming from wink.gif You want affordable options, like most of us @OCN that take the time to understand their system and how the components actually work. I'm not going to go into a whole dissertation on economics and "profitable" market niches', but you do hit on the crux of the matter (in bold) above, and I'd add at "what cost" dollars wise.

The Swiftech H220 finally comes to market this Monday [HERE] , and yea most of us wouldn't have minded if the H220 pump would have come stock on a H100(i)/H80(i) but it's just not economically feasible even for $20 more. The H220 looks really promising for filling that "niche market" @ appx $140 ...
Only time and "economics" will tell if it becomes a success like Corsairs Hydro Series or becomes an afterthought "Dog" like the Thermaltake Big Water series rolleyes.gif

HERE is a pretty reputable review on the H220 ... and if it were available when I purchased my H100, I "may" have forked out the extra $50 for it's superior components but performance wise it would not be signifigantly noticeable for my OC/setup ...


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Honestly I'd be happy with something between the H220 and the current H100/H80 pump. I didn't expect it to be able to run additional cooling blocks when I bought it, but with the radiator it has the system could certainly perform better with 3/8" id tubing and a better pump and I don't believe that would change that much in regards to pricing, at least not so much as to push it into direct competition with the H220. Had the H220 been available I would have bought it in a heart beat, but the Apogee Drive II was the only thing close at the time and that's $135 all on it's own if memory serves me correct.

I just thought something was broken with my unit when I saw that flow rate it was that shocking.
Edited by mavisky - 3/8/13 at 1:03pm
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I have the H50, does that count?
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the h100 supposedly pumps 2 lpm, or 30 gph, according to corsair. a small 'real' pump puts out roughly/about 100 gph.
the corsair units are fine if you want loud expensive cooling and not big heatsink air cooling. i loved my h100 but it cant compare with a real loop (H220).
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