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We tried for 9 hours, no dice, with moderate force (not trying to destroy the chip).

Even used QTip to Put Artic Clean Solution on the surface to breakdown the TIM, and tried using Floss, didnt work either, wouldnt budge, floss couldnt get under it to separate, it sealed off every edge nicely when it solidified, not even with a rubber grip pip wrench, exacto knife, etc.

The Substrate Package has likely cracked from IHS when we pulled it off to save the mainboard, as the locking mech was underneath the water block, we had to slowly pull it out of the socket without unclamping it.


It was an 8100 Series FX Chip, so it's no big loss, but I was looking at any options to save some investment.

Use a hair dryer or a heat gun to heat up the CPU and block. Eventually it will soften up enough to pull the CPU off.

Sorry about the double post.
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First, I would like to point out to everyone that the banner ad seems to be gone.

As for using the motherboard fan headers, this works perfectly and does not cause any strain on a motherboard. I have used this method since the days of the original H50 and it works perfectly. My mother board has software for creating fan curves and can also control the rest of the fans based on temperature sensors on the board. This is actually better than using the link software since it never malfunctions. Many newer (last five years) motherboards will either have two CPU fan headers or a CPU and an AUX fan header that can be tied together in BIOS so they operate at the same RPM. If a person does not have this, they can use a PWM fan splitter which will allow you to run two PWM fans from one header and still maintain RPM control. If you want to use four fans for push/pull you can use a four or more PWM splitter and it will use a molex connector from the PSU for power while still plugging all four fans into the CPU header on the board so all four fans operate at the same RPM.
This is a tried and true method for controlling rad fans for water coolers. In fact, earlier in this thread there are extensive discussions on this very issue including a diagram I made and posted on how to make your own PWM splitter with the molex power option.
I have also used the motherboard pwr fan header for the pump on every build using an AIO water cooler without any issues. On older units the pump wire also had the RPM wire so you could trust the motherboard alarm to tell you if the pump failed. It's really too bad they removed that wire. However, the current draw from the pump is low enough to not cause any problems on any motherboard I have used. I have done over 30 installations like this in the last few years (likely more) without a single failure.

Thank you for the saying this. Was looking at my
Comp right now opened up thinking about moving it to the PSU - decided against it because of this. I have a nice motherboard and I would assume the voltage control through it is just fine
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Hi rep..need assistance with rma please..already sent the rma code to you...
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Thank you for the saying this. Was looking at my
Comp right now opened up thinking about moving it to the PSU - decided against it because of this. I have a nice motherboard and I would assume the voltage control through it is just fine

As SkateZilla mentioned though, you can overtax your motherboard if you draw too much current from a fan header. A couple of Corsair fans on a splitter would likely be fine, just check the current draw of the fans and verify that the maximum power output of the fan header can handle it. Most fans are no problem in singles, but if you start adding multiple fans you should use the molex power option.
If you build your own splitter be sure the tac line only goes to one fan (the "master" fan). If each fan returns a tac signal on one line, they get added together and the motherboard will no longer be able to tell how fast the fans are going. Of course, the disadvantage to a pwm splitter is if one of the slave fans starts going bad the motherboard will not be able to report it because they are not returning a tac signal. So check your fans once in a while and keep them clean. Or just use separate headers on the motherboard and each fan will report it's speed.
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I feel cheated tongue.gif There is no Hydro series H70 in the application form frown.gif

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As SkateZilla mentioned though, you can overtax your motherboard if you draw too much current from a fan header. A couple of Corsair fans on a splitter would likely be fine, just check the current draw of the fans and verify that the maximum power output of the fan header can handle it. Most fans are no problem in singles, but if you start adding multiple fans you should use the molex power option.
If you build your own splitter be sure the tac line only goes to one fan (the "master" fan). If each fan returns a tac signal on one line, they get added together and the motherboard will no longer be able to tell how fast the fans are going. Of course, the disadvantage to a pwm splitter is if one of the slave fans starts going bad the motherboard will not be able to report it because they are not returning a tac signal. So check your fans once in a while and keep them clean. Or just use separate headers on the motherboard and each fan will report it's speed.
I'm using the h100i v2 so it's the pump as well as a fan splitter running two. I'm going to probably switch to power supply then
post #27727 of 28403
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As SkateZilla mentioned though, you can overtax your motherboard if you draw too much current from a fan header. A couple of Corsair fans on a splitter would likely be fine, just check the current draw of the fans and verify that the maximum power output of the fan header can handle it. Most fans are no problem in singles, but if you start adding multiple fans you should use the molex power option.
If you build your own splitter be sure the tac line only goes to one fan (the "master" fan). If each fan returns a tac signal on one line, they get added together and the motherboard will no longer be able to tell how fast the fans are going. Of course, the disadvantage to a pwm splitter is if one of the slave fans starts going bad the motherboard will not be able to report it because they are not returning a tac signal. So check your fans once in a while and keep them clean. Or just use separate headers on the motherboard and each fan will report it's speed.

Actually how do I check how much current is being drawn from the mobo header
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Actually how do I check how much current is being drawn from the mobo header

The fans should give an amperage in their specs or a wattage.
Just remember pie. P=IE where P=Watts, I=current in Amps and E= "Electromotive Force" in Volts.
Using the specs of the fans will give you two of those variables, allowing you to calculate the third. So if they give you the Amps just look it up in your motherboard manual, if they give you watts, then calculate the amps using 12V for the voltage.
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Use a hair dryer or a heat gun to heat up the CPU and block. Eventually it will soften up enough to pull the CPU off.

Sorry about the double post.

Pretty much wrote it off at this point as I know the unit is old, likely out of warranty, and non-functional, the CPU is likely cracked.

I might put the extra fans to good use, but the unit is in a box with some foam covering the chip that's stuck on it.

Was just curious if it would be covered under the warranty claim at that age, likely not, and I'm not really sad to see the 1st gen FX CPU go... it was horrid, even when overclocked...

My next build will be a Zen CPU Build, but likely a different water cooling setup. (another Corsair, just havent figure out which).
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The fans should give an amperage in their specs or a wattage.
Just remember pie. P=IE where P=Watts, I=current in Amps and E= "Electromotive Force" in Volts.
Using the specs of the fans will give you two of those variables, allowing you to calculate the third. So if they give you the Amps just look it up in your motherboard manual, if they give you watts, then calculate the amps using 12V for the voltage.

That's a great little bit of advice. How consistent is the power supplied through a molex to a splitter, though? So one splitter supplying power to 2 fans as well as the pump
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