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what speed are your gt's though? as i said i can only get the 1450rpm ones.

where do you get the shrouds though? make them?i guess the pull fan doesnt absolutely need to have a shroud on it right as its pulling. whereas the push one needs one as you said it would have blowback without it right?
I have GT 1850rpm fans.

I made shrouds from some old 120mm fans real simple cut out the 4 places that the motor and assembly attach to the housing and then I filed them down and smoothed the whole thing out.

Of course the "push" fan having a shroud helps more than the "pull" fan not only the blowback noise but also eliminates the dead zone from the center/motor.

Where are you that you can't order GT 1850rpm fans?
If you tell where you are maybe someone can help you out to find a location you can purchase them from.
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I have GT 1850rpm fans.

I made shrouds from some old 120mm fans real simple cut out the 4 places that the motor and assembly attach to the housing and then I filed them down and smoothed the whole thing out.

Of course the "push" fan having a shroud helps more than the "pull" fan not only the blowback noise but also eliminates the dead zone from the center/motor.

Where are you that you can't order GT 1850rpm fans?
If you tell where you are maybe someone can help you out to find a location you can purchase them from.
I planned on making two shrouds out of 25mm fans for two Ultra Kaze 3000RPM fans, but have read that 34mm is the sweet spot to reduce the 'dead zone'. So, since it's better to have a shroud on the push rather than the pull, would I be better off using both 25mm shrouds on the push side, and nothing on the pull? Or is the dead zone minimal enough to still do one shroud on each?
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I planned on making two shrouds out of 25mm fans for two Ultra Kaze 3000RPM fans, but have read that 34mm is the sweet spot to reduce the 'dead zone'. So, since it's better to have a shroud on the push rather than the pull, would I be better off using both 25mm shrouds on the push side, and nothing on the pull? Or is the dead zone minimal enough to still do one shroud on each?
Have also heard the 34mm are the best to use but kind of uncommon to say the least. Using 2x25mm shrouds would put you at 50mm I think that would hinder more than help cause of the distance. I tried mine with no shrouds and then one shroud on the push then on both and seen at least a 1c difference for the better between all of them.
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I have GT 1850rpm fans.

I made shrouds from some old 120mm fans real simple cut out the 4 places that the motor and assembly attach to the housing and then I filed them down and smoothed the whole thing out.

Of course the "push" fan having a shroud helps more than the "pull" fan not only the blowback noise but also eliminates the dead zone from the center/motor.

Where are you that you can't order GT 1850rpm fans?
If you tell where you are maybe someone can help you out to find a location you can purchase them from.
Did your temps go down with shrouds for GTs? I have GTs which is only giving me -1c over the stock corsair fan & CM R4 @ full load

Do you think shrouds will lower my temps some more?
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If I were to add 2 X 38mm shrouds to the mix on each fan, do you think having it like that will yield better temps than having just one? I got a couple more NZXT case fans laying around I can gut out and use for shrouds.
In your situation, I honestly don't think adding additional shrouds will help much. The reason being, those Triebwerk 122's have the built-in shroud which makes it kind of nice and advantageous over the others that have to add them separately. I had been following and reading up on shroud performance a few months back and having too much (or little) space can actually decrease your performance. Several tests have shown that the optimal or "sweet spot" should be somewhere at the ~30mm mark. Adding a 25mm or 38mm shroud onto your already existing Feser's w/ built-in shroud I think would create too large of an air gap. Even if it did give maybe a 1c drop, there comes a point where you have to ask yourself, is it really worth adding another 76mm of space (2x38mm shrouds) for such a small gain (if any at all)?

Again, this is just advice for your specific case, with the fans that you're running. Hopefully this was helpful.
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I have GT 1850rpm fans.

I made shrouds from some old 120mm fans real simple cut out the 4 places that the motor and assembly attach to the housing and then I filed them down and smoothed the whole thing out.

Of course the "push" fan having a shroud helps more than the "pull" fan not only the blowback noise but also eliminates the dead zone from the center/motor.

Where are you that you can't order GT 1850rpm fans?
If you tell where you are maybe someone can help you out to find a location you can purchase them from.
their sold out on newegg.ca but i need to order some other stuff like ram as i fried the one of the ram modules. mind you though a 1850 rmp fan runs louder than my antec fans. i will refuse to run my antec fans past the low setting which i think is around 1200 to 1500rpm. wouldnt i be better off just getting the 1450's cause the stats show they produce around the same db as the antecs on low?
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Here's my H50! I used to laugh at people when they would talk about wtercooling comp's! Doggone it! It's the only way to go for me now! It's such a cool setup to have the pump on the processor! not only are you dropping the temp of the comp, but also the room your in! I won't forget the day I was hard gaming for a few hour's, got up for a beverage and returned to the room, the whole room was proble 15deg hotter than the rest of the house! It was HOT! lol.
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their sold out on newegg.ca but i need to order some other stuff like ram as i fried the one of the ram modules. mind you though a 1850 rmp fan runs louder than my antec fans. i will refuse to run my antec fans past the low setting which i think is around 1200 to 1500rpm. wouldnt i be better off just getting the 1450's cause the stats show they produce around the same db as the antecs on low?
First off you can't always believe stats listed by the manufacturer according to manufacturer stats CoolerMaster R4 fans should be quieter than GT's but they are like 3x louder. There is always a trade off of sound vs cooling. My stock case fans are 1200rpm fans and I have added some Akasa Apache 1300rpm fans I tried first for the H50 p/p setup that simply didn't do the job the 1850rpm GT's are quieter than the 1200rpm stock In-Win Fanqua fans(the Akasa Apache fans are silent as long as I don't have my ear right on the case). If you have your antec case fans dialed down to lesser rpm's then you could do the same for the GT 1850rpm fans if they where too loud though I doubt they would be louder than your stock fans. I only really hear air flowing and no noise of the fans themselves at all and most of the time playing music or game sounds or whatever even on very low no way I could hear the little noise from the fans/air movement.
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