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post #9921 of 28303
Is it not built for Watercooling?

I fail to see where the misinformation is. I did ask for pics to be able to better help the guy. Right? I mean I'm no Corsair Pro, but I fail to see how your sneering down your nose helps the whole issue.

Thanks for the detailed pic. That's helpful, but using "misinformation" when it's CLEARLY a lack of information issue, gives my credibility a black eye and I do not appreciate that.

Just say what it is. That yes I'm right but without all the information it's not complete.

Oh and only 4 fans come with the 800D right? 1 Ex 3 Int?

Thanks.

~Ceadder

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Ok I'm going to have to explain this with little more detail because there is so much misinformation going it has people believing it that shouldn't. This hole thing about the airflow and how the 800D is only good for liquid cooling is nonsense. 1st off liquid cooling and air cooling are both based off a heat exchange. What would be bad for one would be bad for the other. Can we all stop this liquid cooling airflow psychobabble about the 800D. There are several factors people don't take into account. Lets compare the 800D to the HAF. The HAF has superior airflow, but several 800D club member have reported better temperatures when compare to their old HAF's. Why is that? Its because the 800D has superior cooling features. It has 3 separation of heat sources. The case design does not let allow for the mixing of hot and cold air. All heat sources have their own paths of ventilation. The 800D has the best cable management system of any case. You couldn't even run your wires messed up if you wanted to. Do to the design of the cable management system it actually does not affect your airflow once inside your case, as much as other cases. Less resistance means better airflow. Now lest look at resistance a lot of cases. These cases (like the HAF) have a front intake only to have HDD bay behind it. To do this very common design two thing go wrong. There is resistance and a heat transfer do to your HDD's. So now not only has the resistance of the HDD bay decreased your airflow, the HDD's them selves have absorbed the cool air entering the case and are now rejecting heat into your airflow. That hot air is now on your hardware, but wait a minute. Doesn't your hardware heatsinks or liquid cooling equipment both work off a heat transfer? Yes it does. But, is it going to work as good with the hotter air that is now inside your PC case? No do to the hotter air there is less of a give and take of heat. It is cooling but not as well as it should be. That is why the 800D has superior cooling features. Now if anyone in any case wants to further cool and or increase their airflow you can add a Drive Bay Coolers (5.25"). Check out the The Corsair H50 Accessory Permalink even if you don't have the H50 there are some helpful links.


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post #9922 of 28303
You were giving misinformation "CLEARLY":

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Is it not built for Watercooling?
No not necessarily. Can the case do both? Yes it can. But, you were getting at the lack of airflow, better yet CFM. Again I'll have to explain this with little more detail. Yes one paper the HAF has a higher CFM rating. But that is just the potential CFM of the fan. The fan manufactures do not take into account the resistance and or a heat exchange from the HDDs. Again over and over people just don't get it. You were getting at the 800D having a lack of airflow therefore its better for liquid cooling. This is nonsense. Both liquid cooling and air cooling are both based off a heat exchange. If you are saying the the lack of airflow makes the 800D better for liquid cooling you would be 100% wrong.
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Antec 300? I have mine push/pull from the rear exhaust. Tight fit!!

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I never said that it wasn't good for AC. CLEARLY you took this out of context and ran with it.

But whatever. Just cause I didn't lay it out there in an anal retentive fashion as you have does not mean that I'm giving misinformation.

And the heat of our HDDs' in the 932? I guess that thing up front called a FAN has no bearing on the your information. Right?

What's funny is that I hadn't been running my front fan since I got it cause I only had one drive up front at the time.

My average temps were of the 37-41c variety which is well within reason for spec. Added the LED fan back up front gearing up for my system changeover and now the temps are 31c. When I add another drive it will go up but not much. There is actually more flow coming across my HDD than you could even possibly imagine. The static pressure more than made up for lack of any fan up front.

I apologize if you were misled by your own lack of reading comprehension, but I never stated that the 800D was only good for water. It's just set up better for it IMHO than it is strictly for AC.

~Ceadder

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You were giving misinformation "CLEARLY":



No not necessarily. Can the case do both? Yes it can. But, you were getting at the lack of airflow, better yet CFM. Again I'll have to explain this with little more detail. Yes one paper the HAF has a higher CFM rating. But that is just the potential CFM of the fan. The fan manufactures do not take into account the resistance and or a heat exchange from the HDDs. Again over and over people just don't get it. You were getting at the 800D having a lack of airflow therefore its better for liquid cooling. This is nonsense. Both liquid cooling and air cooling are both based off a heat exchange. If you are saying the the lack of airflow makes the 800D better for liquid cooling you would be 100% wrong.
 
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Has anyone tried mounting it outside of the case like this guy did? http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?p=443797

I'm seriously thinking about it.
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Does anyone know if the H50 will fit on a Gigabyte H55M-UD2 mobo? I am worried that the caps to the left of the cpu socket might get in the way. If anyone has it on theirs please post pics.
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post #9927 of 28303
Do you mean THIS board?

GIGABYTE GA-H55M-S2H LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI



Picture says it will; as the flanges don't come in contact with the Caps.

The part you're seeing that invades that spot is actually on the back side of that board.

@Outside mount question... one of the guys in the 932/922 club actually did mount it outside his case by dimpling the back of his case in two spots and bending the door there to allow the hoses to clear.

~Ceadder

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Does anyone know if the H50 will fit on a Gigabyte H55M-UD2 mobo? I am worried that the caps to the left of the cpu socket might get in the way. If anyone has it on theirs please post pics.

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post #9928 of 28303
This one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128421

Im just worried because I tried putting one on my EVGA E652 mobo and the caps go in the way on that board. The ring did not rest flush with the mount underneath and the caps lifted the ring on the left side.
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Has anyone tried mounting it outside of the case like this guy did? http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?p=443797

I'm seriously thinking about it.
Doesn't matter if you have good airflow inside your case, although it depends on rad placement as well. Mounting it in the front of the case as intake would give you the same results as mounting it outside the case I suppose.
    
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It will defintely be cutting it close. Doesn't look like it will be similar to you EVGA Board however since the mounting holes aren't fully in line with the Caps. But this is an eyeball/ownership type of answer.

You're relying on two factors being able to answer this question.

Eyeball. My eyes say that it SHOULD work, having looked at both Boards now. They are both set up the same at the socket.

But that is no contest to actually owning the board and having an H50 on it. I would contact Corsair tomorrow and see if they have any knowledge on it. Cause I doubt that you'll find the perfect answer amongst this lot.

~Ceadder

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This one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128421

Im just worried because I tried putting one on my EVGA E652 mobo and the caps go in the way on that board. The ring did not rest flush with the mount underneath and the caps lifted the ring on the left side.
 
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