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It's going to come to a point where they are going to have to have these things come standard with waterblocks...
I think you are only affected if you overclock. I'm sure the cards are perfectly stable at the speeds ATI released them at.

If you noticed, there was a therad about a overclocked 5970 coming out and the overclock was so minor. They probbaly did some testing and that's all they could get stable so yeah if you are talking about new overclocked 5970s cards, then yes they probably will need a better cooler or a WB.

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Go away.

If you are going to have an opinion against ATI, at least do it like Blameless. You and 003 need to start making good arguments for your cases instead of just running your mouths and spreading crap.
This is an example of what would happen if it was Nvidia and no ATI. That shows how fanatic people really are here.

Fermi is no out and yet they bash it on every opportunity but ATI screws up and is all good. No worries, there is a fix. Just use 3rd party cooling.
Edited by saulin - 11/25/09 at 10:57am
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I see that now, kind of misleading not OCP at all.
Why do they mention it?
I mean I got my 5870 up to 98amps @ 1.3v with nary a hiccup.
I have no idea, however the guy has no mention of his source, and could easily have interpreted things differently (possibly incorrectly) when reading through say the 5970 white sheet.
    
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Dear Saulin, GPU cooling is appealing regardless of brand. Dig it?
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post #104 of 190
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I think you are only affected if you overclock. I'm sure the cards are perfectly stable at the speeds ATI released them at.

If you noticed, there was a therad about a overclocked 5970 coming out and the overclock was so minor. They probbaly did some testing and that's all they could get stable so yeah if you are talking about new overclocked 5970s cards, then yes they probably will need a better cooler or a WB..
It's going to come to a point where the manufactures are going to have to undervolt/underclock their cards in order to stay within the 300W threshold/stay within the thermal threshold of the card. This will be counterproductive, and there will be little performance increases from one generation to the next. If this trend continues, new technology will = more heat, meaning the rate of new technologies will be proportional to underclocking/undervolting.

Of course I'm generalising and out on a leap, but think about it: our MAINSTREAM cooling technology has not caught up with our mainstream performance. So either we will need a revolutionary aircooling technology on these cards, a standardization of watercooling, or continuation of downclocking to avoid these ridiculous temperatures.
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It's going to come to a point where the manufactures are going to have to undervolt/underclock their cards in order to stay within the 300W threshold/stay within the thermal threshold of the card.
They will just require PCI-E 2.0, or 3.0 when it comes out. If they required 2.0 on this card, there wouldn't be any issues and could of shipped the card @ 825/1200..

Anyone buying a $600 GPU is probably on PCI-E 2.0 anyway.
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It'll be like.

What is this piece of garbage. Nvidia is screwing their customers once again.

But it's ATI so it's cool. Just add water cooling or a after market cooling solution
You are incorrect actually. As history would tell us, the 9800GX2 was basically two 9800gtxs sandwiched together and underclocked a bit, and I didn't see hordes of OCN people complaining about it.
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They will just require PCI-E 2.0, or 3.0 when it comes out. If they required 2.0 on this card, there wouldn't be any issues and could of shipped the card @ 825/1200..

Anyone buying a $600 GPU is probably on PCI-E 2.0 anyway.
You are absolutely right...but if they did require 2.0 and slapped on those 5870 speeds, those extra 75 watts will account for more heat. And after reading this thread, the last thing this card needs is more heat unless you want your speeds throttled.
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You are absolutely right...but if they did require 2.0 and slapped on those 5870 speeds, those extra 75 watts will account for more heat. And after reading this thread, the last thing this card needs is more heat unless you want your speeds throttled.
lol......so your damned if you do & your damned if you dont
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You are absolutely right...but if they did require 2.0 and slapped on those 5870 speeds, those extra 75 watts will account for more heat. And after reading this thread, the last thing this card needs is more heat unless you want your speeds throttled.

You are right. What I get from this article is that it's a heat issue causing the card to throttle. It just needs better cooling.
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BTW to answer your rather odd reply. I don't think many people are compalining about the 5970 being underclocked at all.
No, you flat out said that people here are OK with the underclocking of ATi cards, but they wouldn't be OK if Nvidia did it. And as I pointed out, you're wrong. And the topic at hand in this thread is "overclocking problems" with ATi cards, so talking about the results of what happened when Nvidia did the same thing is directly related.

You'll be able to figure this stuff out someday on your own right around the time you graduate from Elementary School. Oh, and thanks for pointing out that you've reported me, my lack of infractions means that much more to me now.
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